vishalvirsingh Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Yes I would beg to differ, umran is super fast and so is Lockie. I saw Lockie's bowling as recent as 8 days back by my own eyes. But i have seen brett Lee and Shoiab akhhtar in live matches and shaun Tait on TV. Probably Shaun Tait was the fastest , followed by Shoaib followed by Brett Lee. Being an Indian Jaat , i would prefer to support Umran Malik ( who is probably faster or equal to Srinath at his best, srinath bowled 156K as his fastest ) but still he could be marginally slower than Shaun Tait, Shoiab akhtar and Lee at their Best. Vijy and tweaker 2
vishalvirsingh Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, rkt.india said: this is a big statement...........i am lucky to see him bowl live in that match. he is very very special........Kuldeep Sen. inko dekhne ke baad (prasidh/kuldeep/umran)..koi bevkoof selector he deepak chahar ya BHuvi ko select karega. huge difference in Speed , bounce ..these 3 are way talented than chahar and bhuvi. Just in accuracy bhuvi and chahar are a shade better than these three. express bowling, tweaker, Vijy and 1 other 4
Vijy Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: this is a big statement...........i am lucky to see him bowl live in that match. he is very very special........Kuldeep Sen. inko dekhne ke baad (prasidh/kuldeep/umran)..koi bevkoof selector he deepak chahar ya BHuvi ko select karega. huge difference in Speed , bounce ..these 3 are way talented than chahar and bhuvi. Just in accuracy bhuvi and chahar are a shade better than these three. yes, kuldeep sen was excellent this match express bowling 1
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 7 hours ago, rkt.india said: Butler and Ashwin together Vijy and express bowling 1 1
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 7 hours ago, express bowling said: Exactly ! Higher speeds were shown in the 2000s decade. Umran and Ferguson look as quick as any pacer I have ever seen. Nortje clocked 156+ two years back in IPL to Butler Would it mean in 2000s speed guns it would have clocked 162-163+? He looked hypersonic that night express bowling and Vijy 2
Jay Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Nortje clocked 156+ two years back in IPL to Butler Would it mean in 2000s speed guns it would have clocked 162-163+? He looked hypersonic that night Yes. Especially party speed guns in u.a.e Nehra clocked 149 Lel. Pre 2010 speed guns are a joke. Suhaan 1
rkt.india Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Nortje clocked 156+ two years back in IPL to Butler Would it mean in 2000s speed guns it would have clocked 162-163+? He looked hypersonic that night Certainly looked faster than 161 of Shoaib Vijy and Suhaan 2
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Fidel Edwards was quite rapid too in those days He was easily third fastest in the world then, sometimes equally faster in his good days but he looked quicker than both Lee, Akhter just on naked eyes in those times,very wirey quick action But Lee,Akhter clocked quick consistently ,he was tad behind What do you think @rkt.india @MultiB48 @express bowling @Mosher and others? Do you see bowlers very similar to him now? Edited April 27, 2022 by Suhaan Mosher 1
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: He was quite quick as well wasn't he,from Barbados , was quite athletic and flexible and had those fast twitch fibers like Archer.Although I haven't come across a video where he looks as quick as Tait at mcg or Lockie vs wi but he did clock 158kph in Sa in 2003. His problem was that he struggled to hit the stumps against the right handers as everything was just moving away ,was more dangerous against the left handers .One of the key factors with all great pacers is that they can get both outside edge as well as lbws something Fidel struggled with it. His back foot was probably similar to umran or even nehraji ,but his upper body was a lot more side on and hence in alignment.Umran open up his upper body but keeps the lower body closed cork screwing his back.I hope he doesn't get stress fracture.It would be better if he can get his backfoot to be half in half like Lee. With kuldeep I felt his wrist falls away a bit ,maybe looks for reverse but hope he keeps his wrist more upright . Umran rotates his back leg at time ,to align his shoulders Kuldeep i have too see his action in detail,not watching matches at all just few minutes of highlights and ICF updates Edited April 27, 2022 by Suhaan
rkt.india Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Umran rotates his back leg at time ,to align his shoulders,he has text book knee dominance Kuldeep i have too see his action in detail,not watching matches at all just few minutes of highlights and ICF updates Kuldeep seems hip dominant to me.
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Kuldeep seems hip dominant to me. Umran looks inbetweener just noticed he doesn't have prominent knee dominance
rkt.india Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Umran looks inbetweener just noticed he doesn't have prominent knee dominance He is knee dominant.
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He is knee dominant. That amount of bent hip dominants also have Mosher 1
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 Umran appears to be hip dominant side on just like Nagarkoti
rkt.india Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 58 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Umran appears to be hip dominant side on just like Nagarkoti Starc's first landing is this. Far right one.
Mesky99 Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 12 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: I would beg to differ, umran is super fast and so is Lockie. I saw Lockie's bowling as recent as 8 days back by my own eyes. But i have seen brett Lee and Shoiab akhhtar in live matches and shaun Tait on TV. Probably Shaun Tait was the fastest , followed by Shoaib followed by Brett Lee. Being an Indian Jaat , i would prefer to support Umran Malik ( who is probably faster or equal to Srinath at his best, srinath bowled 156K as his fastest ) but still he could be marginally slower than Shaun Tait, Shoiab akhtar and Lee at their Best. I don't understand your obsession with caste mate, umran is not even a Jat, Malik is a Rajput surename used by bakharwals in Jammu, this is like the 3rd time you have brought your caste in the last month or so, chill man. speedheat, tweaker, rollingstoned and 1 other 4
rkt.india Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: He isn't bowling here,just doing warmups , weight transfer if different.
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Starc's first landing is this. Far right one. Far right or far left?
Suhaan Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Starc's upper body moves forward with his non bowling arm and Umran has characteristics of knee dominant his upoer body remains back ,but knee bent isn't prominent,proper propulsion after impact Edited April 27, 2022 by Suhaan
rkt.india Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Starc's upper body moves forward with his non bowling arm and Umran has characteristics of knee dominant his upoer body remains back ,but knee bent isn't prominent He for sure is knee dominant.
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