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Posted
8 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Indian Kirkuit fans going after Mayank and Bishop coming in his defence... State of cricketing IQ in this country really @express bowling @Suhaan @singhvivek141 there is a reason guys like Boobie Koomar, Avesh Shardul Deepak Chara used to play cricket in this country and are well respected and idolised 

 

Still there are people who celebrate batsmen more than bowlers and pacers are known for their swing even if they barely qualify as a pacer,first theydont realise mostif them arent disciplined with line and length either

If they don't even spare Bumrah,what value do these newcomers have to them? I've always said that this is no country for fast bowlers

Posted
9 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Someone like Arun may get it rectified as he did with Tyagi

Or maybe just needs games under his belt badly to sort his runup

He hasn't been running the same way since his injury. It's more confidence and practice thing.

Posted
2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mavi and Nagarkoti lost pace, bounce and quality after injuries. Never the same bowlers again and not getting chances now.

They didn’t have back surgery in nz under a spine surgeon 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mavi and Nagarkoti lost pace, bounce and quality after injuries. Never the same bowlers again and not getting chances now.

Nagakoti was still clocking 140-146 kmph , think that 149 kmph was just 1 delivery in U-19, his range has been 140-147 kmph which he still archived till v.recently.

Issue was he was not that tall, such speed can work in u-19 but its nothing that intnl batter will have concerns about.

 

Mavi got injured he took the easy way out, dropped the pace, became regular in domestic side and as such sub 135 kmph bowlers are v.successful in domestic he also found some success and got selected in Ind side. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

He hasn't been running the same way since his injury. It's more confidence and practice thing.

Think this is what they call 90% intensity/fitness what they were referring to in regards of his speed.

 

His run-up is bit slower and his arm speed is also bit slow.

Posted
3 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Nagakoti was still clocking 140-146 kmph , think that 149 kmph was just 1 delivery ball in U-19, his range has been 140-147 kmph which he still archived till v.recently.

Issue was he was not that tall, such speed can work in u-19 but its nothing that intnl batter will have concerns about.

 

Mavi got injured he took the easy way out, dropped the pace, became regular in domestic side and as such sub 135 kmph bowlers are v.successful in domestic he also found some success and got selected in Ind side. 

 

 

After a major injury, it's not just an issue of drop in speed or retaining speed. 

 

It's the fear of recurrence of injury which often creates a mental block. Some pacers cannot bowl all out again or can't hit the deck hard enough or practice like they used to.

 

That extra zip or that bit extra bounce or that special something maybe lost forever if that mental block is not removed. 

 

Those lonely months or years  of rehab and trying to get back on the field, while their peers progress, puts a lot of pressure on the mind.

 

Such pacers need someone to guide them mentally. Hopefully, Arun does it for Mayank. And does not drop him after a bad game or two. He badly needs a few actual games under his belt. Then he will be a match winner like 2024.

Posted
2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

After a major injury, it's not just an issue of drop in speed or retaining speed. 

 

It's the fear of recurrence of injury which often creates a mental block. Some pacers cannot bowl all out again or can't hit the deck hard enough or practice like they used to.

 

That extra zip or that bit extra bounce or that special something maybe lost forever if that mental block is not removed. 

 

Those lonely months or years  of rehab and trying to get back on the field, while their peers progress, puts a lot of pressure on the mind.

 

Such pacers need someone to guide them mentally. Hopefully, Arun does it for Mayank. And does not drop him after a bad game or two. He badly needs a few actual games under his belt. Then he will be a match winner like 2024.

 

Express pace is mad-man mentality as every 2-3 series bowler will get injured its nearly unavoidable, bowlers who have this mentality can comeback to full pace those who do not have such mentality just fade season after season.

 

For pacers injury is reality of profn, those who are intelgnt and have desire to be top bowlers try to regain the peak fitness and speeds as soon as possbile and those who are and wait for sometime will never regain the older pace again, its always necessary to regain full pace v.quickly after returning to the game, that why keep mentioning mayank has to breach 150 kmph as soon as possible.

 

Historically Ind pacers drop pace after getting injured and do nt remain same bowlers so when ever picking any bowler their top speeds and speeds after eventual injury should be kept in the mid, selecting a 135 kmph bowler means 1 injury they will be sun 130 kmph bowler. 

    

 

Posted
17 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Express pace is mad-man mentality as every 2-3 series bowler will get injured its nearly unavoidable, bowlers who have this mentality can comeback to full pace those who do not have such mentality just fade season after season.

 

For pacers injury is reality of profn, those who are intelgnt and have desire to be top bowlers try to regain the peak fitness and speeds as soon as possbile and those who are and wait for sometime will never regain the older pace again, its always necessary to regain full pace v.quickly after returning to the game, that why keep mentioning mayank has to breach 150 kmph as soon as possible.

 

Historically Ind pacers drop pace after getting injured and do nt remain same bowlers so when ever picking any bowler their top speeds and speeds after eventual injury should be kept in the mid, selecting a 135 kmph bowler means 1 injury they will be sun 130 kmph bowler. 

    

 

The magnitude of the injury and the age at which it happens play big parts.

 

A 4 to 6 month layoff is common for a quick bowler. And after the mid 20s is reached, a person is usually able to handle the mental aspect better as he matures as a person.

 

But for teenagers or early 20s guys, the body is fragile and the mind is immature.  If a person is basically out for 2 years, from age 21 to 23, it is a whole different ball game compared to a 3 month layoff for a 28 year old.

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Decent from Mukesh choudhary as well lot of deliveries in 137-143 kmph range.

Mukesh has been very accurate in the two games he has played.

 

Was always blessed with sharp pace.  Showed great intensity after the tragic incident that happened 

Edited by Lone Wolf
Posted
6 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

i was very impressed with Mukesh chowdhary ...regularly fast from 136k to 144k and lots of balls between 139 to 144K. he got 1 wicket bowled 4 overs at a stretch.

did not give many runs and got a wicket. 

Looks like he bowls a heavy ball and has tendency to skid on quicker than batsman expects 

 

sneakily deceptive 

Posted
5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Mukesh has been very accurate in the two games he has played.

 

Was always blessed with sharp pace.  Showed great intensity after the tragic incident that happened 

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