sandeep Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 @ash https://theprint.in/health/jj-in-talks-with-modi-govt-to-start-clinical-trials-for-its-single-shot-covid-vaccine-in-india/637161/ coffee_rules 1
gattaca Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) J and J is best for Indian population as it needs just one vaccine. Edited April 9, 2021 by gattaca Clarke and beetle 2
BacktoCricaddict Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 This is great news. Hoping for a great outcome. On a related note, during the Covishield (or maybe it was Covaxin?) trials, some of the participants somehow found out they had received the placebo and just dropped out of the trial. Hope it doesn't happen and they are incentivized to continue to check in with the researchers. sandeep 1
ash Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Great, hope the Chinese and Russian vaccine too gets approved. coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Great news, just yesterday we talked about it. It is a common cold flu virus that gets injected as a vacc. Triggers a immune system that has been tested to protect against Covid virus. 66.3% efficacy lowest among all, but prevents hospitalization and death even if they get the virus. Lots of side effects - body ache, low grade fever for a day.
sandeep Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, ash said: Great, hope the Chinese and Russian vaccine too gets approved. yeah that's not going to happen I think.
sandeep Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Great news, just yesterday we talked about it. It is a common cold flu virus that gets injected as a vacc. Triggers a immune system that has been tested to protect against Covid virus. 66.3% efficacy lowest among all, but prevents hospitalization and death even if they get the virus. Lots of side effects - body ache, low grade fever for a day. I don't think its the lowest efficacy - that's a function of the testing datasets I believe. More knowledgeable folks can chime in. Khota 1
coffee_rules Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sandeep said: I don't think its the lowest efficacy - that's a function of the testing datasets I believe. More knowledgeable folks can chime in. It’s been updated as 72% . I was reading from their site after I got the vacc. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison it has lower efficacy among SA variant https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/science/johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine.html I will not visit SA for life Edited April 9, 2021 by coffee_rules
sandeep Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: It’s been updated as 72% . I was reading from their site after I got the vacc. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison it has lower efficacy among SA variant https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/science/johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine.html I will not visit SA for life AFAIK its "lower efficacy" is due to the fact that the testing was done in a population with the SA variant, while the pfizer/moderna were not. coffee_rules 1
Clarke Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sandeep said: I don't think its the lowest efficacy - that's a function of the testing datasets I believe. More knowledgeable folks can chime in. 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Great news, just yesterday we talked about it. It is a common cold flu virus that gets injected as a vacc. Triggers a immune system that has been tested to protect against Covid virus. 66.3% efficacy lowest among all, but prevents hospitalization and death even if they get the virus. Lots of side effects - body ache, low grade fever for a day. https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A As Sandeep says, it may be a function of when & where it has been tested. Vox gained new respect from me. Edited April 9, 2021 by Clarke coffee_rules 1
sandeep Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Clarke said: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A As Sandeep says, it may be a function of when & where it has been tested. Vox gained new respect from me. There's so much "data" driven information out there - science reporting is poor these days, in pursuit of clickbaity headlines that almost intentionally mislead. Folks should always be aware of that instead of taking numbers and headlines at face value, and interpret them in the correct context, so that they don't draw misleading conclusions. Easier said than done, even relatively intelligent and aware folks can get tripped up.
gattaca Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Great news, just yesterday we talked about it. It is a common cold flu virus that gets injected as a vacc. Triggers a immune system that has been tested to protect against Covid virus. 66.3% efficacy lowest among all, but prevents hospitalization and death even if they get the virus. Lots of side effects - body ache, low grade fever for a day. Efficacy depends on your type of sample size. Does the sample size has covid already etc. ?
coffee_rules Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 22 hours ago, gattaca said: Efficacy depends on your type of sample size. Does the sample size has covid already etc. ? Trials would involve exposing the vaccinated to the virus and examine if they contract it. Or test the anti-bodies resulted in the jacked up immune system, if it can fight or resist the facking damned protein.
Khota Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 22 hours ago, gattaca said: Efficacy depends on your type of sample size. Does the sample size has covid already etc. ? And that is exactly what the problem was. When J&J started testing COVID was rampant and that skewed their data and efficacy numbers. Death and Hospitalization numbers were about the same as any messenger RNA vaccines. Long story short if you are getting J&J, take it. BacktoCricaddict, sandeep and gattaca 3
kosingh Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Even though I had worked for Pfizer for several years, I took the J&J vaccine. We will see how that works out!
coffee_rules Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Just now, kosingh said: Even though I had worked for Pfizer for several years, I took the J&J vaccine. We will see how that works out! Where do you live to get a choice of vaccine?
kosingh Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Where do you live to get a choice of vaccine? I live in Virginia. Well, you don't really get a choice in a strict sense. But you can quite easily figure it out here. If I got a vaccine through the site set up by my employer, it would be Moderna. If I scheduled it at the local CVS Pharmacy, it was Pfizer I think. I scheduled mine at Kroger (grocery store), where it was J&J on the date I scheduled it for. coffee_rules 1
gattaca Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 4 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Where do you live to get a choice of vaccine? In indiana we get a choice of vaccines. J and J was given almost to every walk in as the popularity for pfizer and moderna was high. coffee_rules 1
Clarke Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 That Poonawalla is such a troll, says he needs 3k crore to expand SII's vaccine production and is requesting Indian govt. Really, that sort of amount is what is holding u back
Khota Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Clarke said: That Poonawalla is such a troll, says he needs 3k crore to expand SII's vaccine production and is requesting Indian govt. Really, that sort of amount is what is holding u back You really do need seed money.
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