vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: So if a Hamas rocket ends up hitting in school in Southern Israel, Israel should target a school in the Gaza Strip? Would that be considered a proportional response as it is "eye for eye"? One side reacted to police violence. Other side seized and turned into a full scale war. If Palestine had one of the best airforce in the world and launched similar attack Israel would have retreated for sure. But they know palestine is defenceless.
EnterTheVoid Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: One side reacted to police violence. Other side seized and turned into a full scale war. If Palestine had one of the best airforce in the world and launched similar attack Israel would have retreated for sure. But they know palestine is defenceless. That doesn't answer the question of what is a proportionate response to Hamas rocket attacks? raki05 1
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Israel has one of the strongest air force in the world. Israeli police started it. So they reacted. This war was totally avoidable. But Netanyahu wanted it. Even now he can de-escalate. Is he doing that? No. So, how many jews live in Palestine? Zero. How many jews can actually live in Palestine in future? Zero but there is good number of Palestinians living in Israel with better life then Palestine. But what they do? Attack Police, Riot in streets? And breed. Because that all they can do. So proportaly, Israel can expel them all. Palestine is using everything thing they can to kill Jews but Israel is doing targeted. Proportionatel, Israel should also throw all its might? Shouldn’t it? Palestine stops Rockets, war will stop. Edited May 20, 2021 by mishra raki05 1
EnterTheVoid Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Gollum said: The collective Arab armies got comprehensively defeated and lost large sections of land in the 1967 6 day war. Pakistan will probably meet a similar fate. And that too, in half the time. Wouldn't put it past them Laaloo, raki05 and Sgattick10 3
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: One side reacted to police violence. Other side seized and turned into a full scale war. If Palestine had one of the best airforce in the world and launched similar attack Israel would have retreated for sure. But they know palestine is defenceless. Do you know that violence started with Palestinian terrris ramming his car into Israeli Police. Good that it wasn’t indian media which would have called it peacefull farmer protesting has overturned his tractor because of fascist Modi raki05 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, mishra said: Do you know that violence started with Palestinian terrris ramming his car into Israeli Police. Good that it wasn’t indian media which would have called it peacefull farmer protesting has overturned his tractor because of fascist Modi No . You got it backwards. It was police eviction that triggered the chain of events.
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: No . You got it backwards. It was police eviction that triggered the chain of events. You don’t pay rent, you get evicted.
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, mishra said: So, how many jews live in Palestine? Zero. How many jews can actually live in Palestine in future? Zero but there is good number of Palestinians living in Israel with better life then Palestine. But what they do? Attack Police, Riot in streets? And breed. Because that all they can do. So proportaly, Israel can expel them all. Palestine is using everything thing they can to kill Jews but Israel is doing targeted. Proportionatel, Israel should also throw all its might? Shouldn’t it? Palestine stops Rockets, war will stop. Protest was to opposing eviction of the families. Not to start a war. It got escalated quickly. Israel destroyed 40 schools, 20 medical facilities and 4 or 5 hospitals and about 100 buildings.
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: Protest was to opposing eviction of the families. Not to start a war. It got escalated quickly. Israel destroyed 40 schools, 20 medical facilities and 4 or 5 hospitals and about 100 buildings. Who can discredit Israeli claim that there were either terrorist or ammunition in those buildings? Yasir Arafat was last crediworthy man Palestine had. After him, Terrorists Hamas took over nation. So if Terrorist Hamas says Israels claim is wrong, why would anyone in right mind believe him.
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, mishra said: You don’t pay rent, you get evicted. The United Nations Commission for Human Rights has called the forced removal of Palestinian families a potential war crime. Israeli officials have called it a "real-estate dispute between private parties.
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, mishra said: Who can discredit Israeli claim that there were either terrorist or ammunition in those buildings? Yasir Arafat was last crediworthy man Palestine had. After him, Terrorists Hamas took over nation. So if Terrorist Hamas says Israels claim is wrong, why would anyone in right mind believe him. An independent panel has to determine that. Certainly not Israelis.
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: An independent panel has to determine that. Certainly not Israelis. And most certainly not Hamas?
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, mishra said: And most certainly not Hamas? Both have the motive to be lying about it. No denying that. But automatically taking the side of Israelis for political and other reasons is not right.
Alam_dar Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, mishra said: You don’t pay rent, you get evicted. They were the owners of the land, but Israel didn't accept the International Law and introduced it's own apartheid laws. This is the great injustice, but off course right wing Media Houses don't show the actual truth.
coffee_rules Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: One side reacted to police violence. Other side seized and turned into a full scale war. If Palestine had one of the best airforce in the world and launched similar attack Israel would have retreated for sure. But they know palestine is defenceless. do you know why police reacted to those in mosque? Every year during Ramadan including this year. Such individual attacks were happening targeting women and children. They had enough. Also, this year some Muslim and Jewish holiday coincided and Al-Aqsa mosque was hijacked by both parties. Don’t go by who started it, it will always lead to pointing fingers we have no knowledge about. When police went into the mosque to control protesters, Hamas gave an ultimatum and started firing rockets. They could have avoided clashes if they hadn’t fired rockets over a random mosque protest. Every rocket fired will be responded with air strikes. Simple strategy.
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Both have the motive to be lying about it. No denying that. But automatically taking the side of Israelis for political and other reasons is not right. You have a situation where one side(Jews) are relying on system and administration like kashmiri Pandits in kashmir while other side , every individual civilian ( atleast 90%) is driven by hate and is ready to brutally lynch kill , rape , burn, stone to death on a single opportunity. But you choose to call people relying on system as agressor while other side is poor civilian. Other side is sick. Simply sick people and deserve no sympathy
coffee_rules Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Nothing to do with Osama. Even without Osama he was going to win. He got Romney's clock cleaned. Not like he was in any trouble at all. A lot of fence-sitters jumped after that, plus a movie with oscars helps too. A closer win like Bush's 2 victories became a resounding victory with mandate for drone policy
mishra Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Alam_dar said: They were the owners of the land, but Israel didn't accept the International Law and introduced it's own apartheid laws. This is the great injustice, but off course right wing Media Houses don't show the actual truth. Says who? All the jews were born on mars and brought in to Hitler to be gasses on inter planetary mission. Man, Jewish civilisation too deserve some pace on this earth. Think on human side of your brain instead of allways siding with Islamic followers.
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 5 hours ago, coffee_rules said: A lot of fence-sitters jumped after that, plus a movie with oscars helps too. A closer win like Bush's 2 victories became a resounding victory with mandate for drone policy Obama was never under threat. If anything that tanked Romoney probably his 47% comment. Besides. far right wing loonies were looking for a loony like Trump not a run of the mill conservative like Romney. Tea party was a big movement on the right. The alt right group was looking for a lunatic not a guy like Romney.
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 5 hours ago, mishra said: You have a situation where one side(Jews) are relying on system and administration like kashmiri Pandits in kashmir while other side , every individual civilian ( atleast 90%) is driven by hate and is ready to brutally lynch kill , rape , burn, stone to death on a single opportunity. But you choose to call people relying on system as agressor while other side is poor civilian. Other side is sick. Simply sick people and deserve no sympathy Both sides are sick in their own way. I don't think India took a side either. https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/israel-or-palestine-who-did-india-support-at-the-united-nations-and-why-1621340459-1
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