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Call it 'Modi strain', use 'super spreader Kumbh': BJP says Congress used toolkit to destroy PM's image

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coffee_rules Grand Master

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8 minutes ago, Gambit said:

 

Agree. Actions like 5d are deplorable, however, a template/tool kit disseminated to remind everyone of BJP's *ups is expected. Imagine what a BJP in opposition would have done in this situation.  The current opposition's efforts so far are pretty benign compared to what BJP did between 2010-14. 


really? Did BJP do this?

 

- Sign a MoU with CCP?

- Go to Pakistan and asked them to eliminate MMS?

- Meet Chinese Embassy during Chinese incursions

- Ask USA to intervene in India’s internal affairs

- Ask for proof in terrorists’ encounters 

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apparently,an pIl has been filed in court to investigate the toolkit from nia ,bjp saying the police will investigate, plus bjp spokesperson  nupur sharma,has said that their will be double investigation.

coffee_rules Grand Master

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Just now, Bigg Brother said:

What happened to that Disha Ravi who was arrested for same reason (Making toolkit I guess).

She got a bluetick on Twitter. That’s all. She didn’t name names.

coffee_rules Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

Blocking beds and medical facilities in "friendly" hospitals that will only be released on Congress' request.

Truly pathetic. Nothing of this sort was heard in 2010-14!
 

BBMP did this in Bengaluru which was unearthed by Tejswi Surya in Bengaluru. Agents blocked beds using people who were home quarantined and then release it at midnight to be taken over immediately by their people. It was done for money. Nobody  knows who got advantaged! 

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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3 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Here it is:

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Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
 

Thanks, except for 5G all of 5 is pathetic. Manipulating people who called for help and are dying! 

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:


really? Did BJP do this?

 

- Sign a MoU with CCP?

- Go to Pakistan and asked them to eliminate MMS?

- Meet Chinese Embassy during Chinese incursions

- Ask USA to intervene in India’s internal affairs

- Ask for proof in terrorists’ encounters 

 

You seem to be highlighting what is perceived these days as "anti-national" activities. You would do well to remember similar anti-national activities undertaken by BJP, some of which were when they were in power:

- Coffingate

- Kargil martyrs petrol pump allocation

- Opposed the Indo-US nuclear deal in 2008

- Rajnath Singh met Chinese Ambassador in 2009 around when skirmishes were going on at the border (exactly what you highlighted above)

- CCP again met Nitin Gadkari in 2011

coffee_rules Grand Master

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31 minutes ago, Gambit said:

 

You seem to be highlighting what is perceived these days as "anti-national" activities. You would do well to remember similar anti-national activities undertaken by BJP, some of which were when they were in power:

- Coffingate

What about it? It was in 1999, when COngress charged that the coffins were not priced well. BJP Defence Minister (GF) resigned. Later CBI gave him a clean chit. 

 

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- Kargil martyr's petrol pump allocation

This was about Congress not allocating all 500 people selected by their govt. Why is it anti-national?

 

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- Opposed the Indo-US nuclear deal in 2008

This I was totally against, worst of all, BJP voted against it along with the Left, their idealogue/s worst rival.

 

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- Rajnath Singh met Chinese Ambassador in 2009 around when skirmishes were going on at the border (exactly what you highlighted above)

- CCP again met Nitin Gadkari in 2011

These were open meetings when CCP announced the agenda of the meeting as well. Even USA/All country ambassadors meet opposition leaders. BJP had a lot more presence in the parliament than Congress now to be called main oppostion (ragtag of 40-50 MPs). CCP doesn't have an MOU signed with BJP  unlike the Gandhi family. Also, nobody knows what RaGa talked with CCP during the meeting.

 

Rajnath meeting C ambassador:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/chinese-ambassador-meets-bjp-chief-says-wants-cordial-ties-with-india/articleshow/5131628.cms

Nitin G visit to China:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/bjps-nitin-gadkari-to-visit-china-on-cpcs-invitation/articleshow/7272868.cms

 

On RaGa: it was a secret meeting, nobody knows what they talked and CCP didn't announce

Congress denied it and later accepted it:

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rahul-gandhi-met-chinese-ambassador-secretly-amid-doklam-stand-off-his-love-for-nation-is-fake-nadda/articleshow/76921483.cms

https://www.news18.com/news/india/after-flipflops-congress-confirms-rahul-gandhi-met-chinese-ambassador-1456331.html

 

Can't compare these two

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14 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

What about it? It was in 1999, when COngress charged that the coffins were not priced well. BJP Defence Minister (GF) resigned. Later CBI gave him a clean chit. 

 

This was about Congress not allocating all 500 people selected by their govt. Why is it anti-national?

 

This I was totally against, worst of all, BJP voted against it along with the Left, their idealogue/s worst rival.

 

These were open meetings when CCP announced the agenda of the meeting as well. Even USA/All country ambassadors meet opposition leaders. BJP had a lot more presence in the parliament than Congress now to be called main oppostion (ragtag of 40-50 MPs). CCP doesn't have an MOU signed with BJP  unlike the Gandhi family. Also, nobody knows what RaGa talked with CCP during the meeting.

 

Rajnath meeting C ambassador:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/chinese-ambassador-meets-bjp-chief-says-wants-cordial-ties-with-india/articleshow/5131628.cms

Nitin G visit to China:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/bjps-nitin-gadkari-to-visit-china-on-cpcs-invitation/articleshow/7272868.cms

 

On RaGa: it was a secret meeting, nobody knows what they talked and CCP didn't announce

Congress denied it and later accepted it:

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rahul-gandhi-met-chinese-ambassador-secretly-amid-doklam-stand-off-his-love-for-nation-is-fake-nadda/articleshow/76921483.cms

https://www.news18.com/news/india/after-flipflops-congress-confirms-rahul-gandhi-met-chinese-ambassador-1456331.html

 

Can't compare these two

 

You are try to rationalise each of these wherein these are no different from what Congress did. How would you feel if Mamata or Kejriwal meet the Chinese today overtly or covertly? Advani and Jaswant Singh went to Pakistan when Congress was in power and praised Jinnah. If Rahul Gandhi or Mamata do this today, what do you think the reaction will be?

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These were open meetings when CCP announced the agenda of the meeting as well. Even USA/All country ambassadors meet opposition leaders. BJP had a lot more presence in the parliament than Congress now to be called main oppostion (ragtag of 40-50 MPs). CCP doesn't have an MOU signed with BJP  unlike the Gandhi family. Also, nobody knows what RaGa talked with CCP during the meeting.
 
Rajnath meeting C ambassador:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/chinese-ambassador-meets-bjp-chief-says-wants-cordial-ties-with-india/articleshow/5131628.cms
Nitin G visit to China:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/bjps-nitin-gadkari-to-visit-china-on-cpcs-invitation/articleshow/7272868.cms
 
On RaGa: it was a secret meeting, nobody knows what they talked and CCP didn't announce
Congress denied it and later accepted it:
 
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rahul-gandhi-met-chinese-ambassador-secretly-amid-doklam-stand-off-his-love-for-nation-is-fake-nadda/articleshow/76921483.cms
https://www.news18.com/news/india/after-flipflops-congress-confirms-rahul-gandhi-met-chinese-ambassador-1456331.html
 
Can't compare these two
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coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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10 minutes ago, Gambit said:

 

You are try to rationalise each of these wherein these are no different from what Congress did. How would you feel if Mamata or Kejriwal meet the Chinese today overtly or covertly? Advani and Jaswant Singh went to Pakistan when Congress was in power and praised Jinnah. If Rahul Gandhi or Mamata do this today, what do you think the reaction will be?

 

A lot has changed over 10 years, so you can't compare the two scenarios. We have had much more skirmishes now than then, also, Advani and Jaswant duly lost mandate after that  Jinnahgate, so they were punished duly. I can't ignore the covertly fact after knowing that the MoU was signed with CCP.  After the Wuhan virus, nobody in their conscious mind would think of meeting Chinese officials now.  FAM Jaishankar openly boycotted a meeting arranged by China on some global summit recently. 

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/jaishankar-boycotts-high-level-ministerial-security-council-meeting-china-convened-249908

 

 

 

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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5 hours ago, speedheat said:

Is this dumb FM Jaishankar 100 percent sure that no such variant exists? Atleast Kejriwal is proactive about it hence alerting the crew.

That is not the point. There are virologists and others analyzing it. He is only doing some damage control after Singapore raised it as a huge complaint to GoI.

 

A CM of a state speculating on a new variant with no competence or medical qualifications, just a IIT grad glorified Movie reviewer cum Anarchist, from a country which India recently received O2 and med aid from, is irresponsible and needs to be chastized. He has no business tweeting some WA forwards. Delhi has used the O2 that Singapore and other countries have sent, he should have some gratitude. Nikamma kahin ka.

dial_100 Community Regular

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3 hours ago, Gambit said:

 

Agree. Actions like 5d are deplorable, however, a template/tool kit disseminated to remind everyone of BJP's *ups is expected. Imagine what a BJP in opposition would have done in this situation.  The current opposition's efforts so far are pretty benign compared to what BJP did between 2010-14. 

 

And no sane person is denying that. I think the excuse that "our bureaucracy is messed up" or "our system is slow" aint going to fly. If these are true, which they are, then our govt should have been even more vigilant and proactive in handling few things. Even though they had given some of the responsibilities to states to handle, there should have been regular communication from center to people in general. But trust me, BJP will get away with all this. It is shame that our country will suffer. Oppositions are literally incapable of driving any sustained campaign against current govt.

 

Having said that you never know what could happen 2024. My gut tells me that BJP will still retain with more or less same margin as before. And trust me, I am out and out BJP guy but nothing comes ahead of our country. 

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:


really? Did BJP do this?

 

- Sign a MoU with CCP?

- Go to Pakistan and asked them to eliminate MMS?

- Meet Chinese Embassy during Chinese incursions

- Ask USA to intervene in India’s internal affairs

- Ask for proof in terrorists’ encounters 

 

Coffee bro, for a minute if you ignore opposition, I feel BJP should have done lot more preparation. Peoples lives are at stake here. What is there to argue?

 

I feel Anti CAA and Farmers protest should have been dealt with strong hand. So many murders happening and BJP isnt doing much. I think BJP needs to stop giving opposition any importance. Bashing gutless regional parties is not going to benefit country at all. nobody is going to vote them we know that. 

 

Now the question is how can BJP do better job than they did before. Thats. all. 

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dial_100

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3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

Blocking beds and medical facilities in "friendly" hospitals that will only be released on Congress' request.

 

Why arent system so strong enough that these people get charged on criminal offense. Dont waste time on shaming these worthless people. Show us how you are going to take action against them. PERIOD. 

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