coffee_rules Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, dial_100 said: Coffee bro, for a minute if you ignore opposition, I feel BJP should have done lot more preparation. Peoples lives are at stake here. What is there to argue? I feel Anti CAA and Farmers protest should have been dealt with strong hand. So many murders happening and BJP isnt doing much. I think BJP needs to stop giving opposition any importance. Bashing gutless regional parties is not going to benefit country at all. nobody is going to vote them we know that. Now the question is how can BJP do better job than they did before. Thats. all. My response was in the context where it was said BJP did worse things as opposition than what Congress is doing now. Nothing related to Covid. Agree to all your points and I have many more grievances to list. But , we should focus on handling crisis now instead of bickering. There will be a time to be asking accountability and consequences. dial_100 1
dial_100 Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Truly pathetic. Nothing of this sort was heard in 2010-14! BBMP did this in Bengaluru which was unearthed by Tejswi Surya in Bengaluru. Agents blocked beds using people who were home quarantined and then release it at midnight to be taken over immediately by their people. It was done for money. Nobody knows who got advantaged! Please coffee stop assuming these people were doodh ke dhule before this. You have no idea how Cong has gone before 2014. We have experienced things first hand. Literally cannot put it here. But they are finished. What now? By shaming them, BJP is not going to get additional approval any more. They already have it all. Turn the system around, bring in new legislation where center can adopt in the situation like Pandemic. Do something, show us the direction. Is that fair?
dial_100 Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: My response was in the context where it was said BJP did worse things as opposition than what Congress is doing now. Nothing related to Covid. Agree to all your points and I have many more grievances to list. But , we should focus on handling crisis now instead of bickering. There will be a time to be asking accountability and consequences. That is not true. But it is okay if they say that. This is their chance. Leftist are going to jump around for few months before they again go in dormancy.
dial_100 Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: That is not the point. There are virologists and others analyzing it. He is only doing some damage control after Singapore raised it as a huge complaint to GoI. A CM of a state speculating on a new variant with no competence or medical qualifications, just a IIT grad glorified Movie reviewer cum Anarchist, from a country which India recently received O2 and med aid from, is irresponsible and needs to be chastized. He has no business tweeting some WA forwards. Delhi has used the O2 that Singapore and other countries have sent, he should have some gratitude. Nikamma kahin ka. This guy is a total digress. It is just our pure bad luck that most educated person turned out to be plain simple idiot. Edited May 19, 2021 by dial_100 coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, dial_100 said: Please coffee stop assuming these people were doodh ke dhule before this. You have no idea how Cong has gone before 2014. We have experienced things first hand. Literally cannot put it here. But they are finished. What now? By shaming them, BJP is not going to get additional approval any more. They already have it all. Turn the system around, bring in new legislation where center can adopt in the situation like Pandemic. Do something, show us the direction. Is that fair? Don’t know the real reason into why BJP is doing it now. There must be a good reason as Congress is denying instead of owning up and showing and attacking BJP’s lapses. Despite lapses, Modi is still having good approval ratings. Calling it Modi strain might backfire on them, like they called it BJP vaccine. Now they are all clamoring for the same BJP vaccine. Agree this is unnecessary at this time and introspection is the need now. Arvind Kejariwal, Congress and Mamta will keep reminding people what happens if BJP is voted out, but I believe BJP will acknowledge the shortcomings and learn. Edited May 19, 2021 by coffee_rules dial_100 1
dial_100 Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Don’t know the real reason into why BJP is doing it now. There must be a good reason as Congress is denying it bateau of owning up and show the lapses. Agree this unnecessary at this time and introspection is the need now. Arvind Kejariwal, Congress and Mamta will keep reminding people what happens if BJP is voted out, but I believe BJP will acknowledge the shortcomings and learn. They have conscious and they are good people. Trust me. Not everybody is perfect. BJP is short with strong 2-3 tier 2 leaders but they will come up with natural process. Sometimes, people only learn by experience. If BJP is voted out, which is very unlikely, we will be reminded of something world knew all along. Hone ko kuchh bhi ho sakta hai.
speedheat Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: That is not the point. There are virologists and others analyzing it. He is only doing some damage control after Singapore raised it as a huge complaint to GoI. A CM of a state speculating on a new variant with no competence or medical qualifications, just a IIT grad glorified Movie reviewer cum Anarchist, from a country which India recently received O2 and med aid from, is irresponsible and needs to be chastized. He has no business tweeting some WA forwards. Delhi has used the O2 that Singapore and other countries have sent, he should have some gratitude. Nikamma kahin ka First of all it was no WA forward, there have been sudden spike of covid cases in Singapore and they are shutting down schools over a fear of B.1.617 variant. Unlike fenku and his cronies he is alert to see genuine danger of third wave here hence alerting his crews/government who are mulishly ignoring the facts. Under_Score 1
coffee_rules Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, dial_100 said: They have conscious and they are good people. Trust me. Not everybody is perfect. BJP is short with strong 2-3 tier 2 leaders but they will come up with natural process. Sometimes, people only learn by experience. If BJP is voted out, which is very unlikely, we will be reminded of something world knew all along. Hone ko kuchh bhi ho sakta hai. very likely saar . At this point, anti-incumbency is something no country has resolved, unless you are autocratic like Castro or Putin. Even IG lost in 1977. And RG in 1989. Edited May 19, 2021 by coffee_rules dial_100 1
ravishingravi Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, speedheat said: First of all it was no WA forward, there have been sudden spike of covid cases in Singapore and they are shutting down schools over a fear of B.1.617 variant. Unlike fenku and his cronies he is alert to see genuine danger of third wave here hence alerting his crews/government who are mulishly ignoring the facts. Sudden spike of 38 cases.Yeah right. This is why it is highly advised that people don’t get their news from WhatsApp and twitter only. Edited May 19, 2021 by ravishingravi
dial_100 Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: very likely saar . At this point, incumbency is something no country has resolved, unless you are autocratic like Castro or Putin. Even IG lost in 1977. And RG in 1989. I predicted Bengal back in Jan or Feb itself that TMC is coming back. Even though others were excited. The question is, how will you form non-BJP govt at the center. Navin Patanayk, Nitish will stay away from it. So there go 35 seats. BJP could still get 270 on its own but if they fall short by 20-30, NP & NK will fill in that gap. { dream mode = ON } This is what is required for non-BJP govt to form. SP+BSP+C = 45 NCP+C+SS = 40 C in GJ+MP+CG+Raj = 50 C in oth states = 40 TN = 35 CPI+CPM+TMC = 40 This is 250. { dream mode = OFF } As I said, anything can happen but at the moment it looks very unlikely. Can cong pull off Mah, GJ, MP, CG, Raj and UP/BH with over 100-120 seats?
Yoda-esque Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 I predicted Bengal back in Jan or Feb itself that TMC is coming back. Even though others were excited. The question is, how will you form non-BJP govt at the center. Navin Patanayk, Nitish will stay away from it. So there go 35 seats. BJP could still get 270 on its own but if they fall short by 20-30, NP & NK will fill in that gap. { dream mode = ON } This is what is required for non-BJP govt to form. SP+BSP+C = 45 NCP+C+SS = 40 C in GJ+MP+CG+Raj = 50 C in oth states = 40 TN = 35 CPI+CPM+TMC = 40 This is 250. { dream mode = OFF } As I said, anything can happen but at the moment it looks very unlikely. Can cong pull off Mah, GJ, MP, CG, Raj and UP/BH with over 100-120 seats? What about SP,BSP and Congress together?
dial_100 Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Yoda-esque said: 7 hours ago, dial_100 said: I predicted Bengal back in Jan or Feb itself that TMC is coming back. Even though others were excited. The question is, how will you form non-BJP govt at the center. Navin Patanayk, Nitish will stay away from it. So there go 35 seats. BJP could still get 270 on its own but if they fall short by 20-30, NP & NK will fill in that gap. { dream mode = ON } This is what is required for non-BJP govt to form. SP+BSP+C = 45 NCP+C+SS = 40 C in GJ+MP+CG+Raj = 50 C in oth states = 40 TN = 35 CPI+CPM+TMC = 40 This is 250. { dream mode = OFF } As I said, anything can happen but at the moment it looks very unlikely. Can cong pull off Mah, GJ, MP, CG, Raj and UP/BH with over 100-120 seats? What about SP,BSP and Congress together? I gave SP, BSP & Con 45 in UP. Very first in the list.
ravishingravi Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 8 hours ago, dial_100 said: I predicted Bengal back in Jan or Feb itself that TMC is coming back. Even though others were excited. The question is, how will you form non-BJP govt at the center. Navin Patanayk, Nitish will stay away from it. So there go 35 seats. BJP could still get 270 on its own but if they fall short by 20-30, NP & NK will fill in that gap. { dream mode = ON } This is what is required for non-BJP govt to form. SP+BSP+C = 45 NCP+C+SS = 40 C in GJ+MP+CG+Raj = 50 C in oth states = 40 TN = 35 CPI+CPM+TMC = 40 This is 250. { dream mode = OFF } As I said, anything can happen but at the moment it looks very unlikely. Can cong pull off Mah, GJ, MP, CG, Raj and UP/BH with over 100-120 seats? Its economy stupid. Said someone. If we get 6 quarters of double digit growth, it’s sealed for good. Otherwise not sure. dial_100 1
Yoda-esque Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, dial_100 said: I gave SP, BSP & Con 45 in UP. Very first in the list. possible..those numbers you speak of...south votes for rahul baba
dial_100 Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Its economy stupid. Said someone. If we get 6 quarters of double digit growth, it’s sealed for good. Otherwise not sure. Trust me every vegetable seller knows how bad cong regime was. It is not going to be easy for people just to say 20 parties will rule india. Its not gonna happen. So BJP and alliance will cross 280 this time also. Mark my words.
dial_100 Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: possible..those numbers you speak of...south votes for rahul baba I was just giving all the upper limits to see if it is even feasible. I had to go way out of bound to reach to 250. That means it is almost impossible. I see them reaching 200 all put together. 544 - 200 and 60 odd for others leaves strong 270+ for BJP+. There is no way Cong can pull 50 in Gj+MP+CG+Raj. UP and Mah numbers also look very unlikely. But BJP needs to up its game. Deliver the killer punch in 22-23 & 23-24. Yoda-esque 1
ravishingravi Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 very good analysis. Just ask Congress fellows. Do you disagree with toolkit ?
mishra Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) Does anyone knows, when dies Indian PM Modi declared victory over corona? I keep hearing this claim by opposition again and again with no concrete proof? I assumed that he may have said this in some election rally. But is it true or fabricated @Khota @vvvslaxman @speedheat Edited May 23, 2021 by mishra
speedheat Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, mishra said: Does anyone knows, when dies Indian PM Modi declared vicyover corona? I keep hearing this claim by opposition again and again with no concrete proof? I assumed that he may have said this in some election rally. But is it true or fabricated @Khota @vvvslaxman @speedheat That was in January. https://m.timesofindia.com/home/education/news/pm-modi-cherishes-indias-dual-victory-over-covid-19-and-australia-praise-young-india/amp_articleshow/80402121.cms mishra and Khota 2
mishra Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, speedheat said: That was in January. https://m.timesofindia.com/home/education/news/pm-modi-cherishes-indias-dual-victory-over-covid-19-and-australia-praise-young-india/amp_articleshow/80402121.cms But no where it seems he has declared victory? Headline doesn’t match with what he said. Edited May 23, 2021 by mishra
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