Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Gollum said: I think Jaddu will be playing for his spot for T4 in the remainder of this test. Scored 100 runs at 25 avg (sure his batting position is a disadvantage but he is unable to bat with the tail) 2 wickets after conceding 190 runs, over 5 innings, total 76 overs No real impact while fielding....ATG fielder but keeper, slips, FSL, SP, leg gully are the important catching positions. Not good enough to hold on to the spot especially since he didn't have a good outing in WTC F as well (sub-par batting and no wicket). He needs to finish strong here, at least a 50 and if they bat again, a couple of wickets when match is alive. he has had to throw his bat due to tail. I'm not too comfortable with Ashwin or Thakur at 7. MO has to inspire more confidence to be able to afford that.If Jaddu goes he should be replaced by batsman only(Vihari maybe)
Jay Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Adamant said: If you are playing two spinners your fast bowlers will automatically get good rest, dropping an extra batsman on a relatively flatter pitch isn't the right way to go about this. Not really. Fast bowlers get more rest with one spinner and 4 pacer combo. Think about it. Spinner like ash or jaddu will go through their overs much quicker. Less rest for bowlers. Logical thinking. Something kuli lacks. Yea you need to account for overrate. Every other team doesn't care about overrate. We don't need to either. Thakur is crucial. Guys like thakur, pandya and bhuvi suit English and kiwi conditions. It's unfortunately the truth. Vijay shankar another one that suits these conditions. We only have thakur available now. Besides thakur Is very good. Might as well play him.
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Not really. Fast bowlers get more rest with one spinner and 4 pacer combo. Think about it. Spinner like ash or jaddu will go through their overs much quicker. Less rest for bowlers. Logical thinking. Something kuli lacks. Yea you need to account for overrate. Every other team doesn't care about overrate. We don't need to either. Thakur is crucial. Guys like thakur, pandya and bhuvi suit English and kiwi conditions. It's unfortunately the truth. Vijay shankar another one that suits these conditions. We only have thakur available now. Besides thakur Is very good. Might as well play him. Already got docked 2 WTC points.So we should care even if we play 4 pacers. Learn from NZ,they manage it with 5 pacers Adamant 1
Adamant Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jay said: Thakur is crucial. Guys like thkur, pandya and bhuvi suit English and kiwi conditions. It's unfortunately the truth. Vijay shankar another one that suits these conditions. Thakur is crucial in proper English conditions, at the Oval we don't need him. He won't get much lateral movement at the Oval. We need two spinners at the Oval and No we can't drop a batsman that would be idiocy. Regarding your point about fast bowlers not getting much rest, A spinner like Ashwin will bowl way more overs than Thakur, so even if he complete his overs faster he bowls more overs so that will give the pacers enough time. No need to worry about that. Edited August 28, 2021 by Adamant
rkt.india Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Adamant said: If you are playing two spinners your fast bowlers will automatically get good rest, dropping an extra batsman on a relatively flatter pitch isn't the right way to go about this. Spinners are always under bowled here
Jay Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, Adamant said: Thakur is crucial in proper English conditions, at the Oval we don't need him. He won't get much lateral movement at the Oval. We need two spinners at the Oval and No we can't drop a batsman that would be idiocy. Regarding your point about fast bowlers not getting much rest, A spinner like Ashwin will bowl way more overs than Thakur, so even if he complete his overs faster he bowls more overs so that will give the pacers enough time. No need to worry about that. One spinner is all that's needed in sena. That's the truth. Thakur gets movement even on dead pitched as seen in Australia where india won without the chewt.
Jay Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, Lord said: Already got docked 2 WTC points.So we should care even if we play 4 pacers. Learn from NZ,they manage it with 5 pacers But their captain is intelligent. Our captain is a dumbass. Who cares about. WtC final. It's rubbish. Should be a proper 3 match series decider. I would sacrifice points deduction to win series' in sena anyday.
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Jay said: But their captain is intelligent. Our captain is a dumbass. Who cares about. WtC final. It's rubbish. Should be a proper 3 match series decider. I would sacrifice points deduction to win series' in sena anyday. do both
Trichromatic Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 This team badly needs extra batsman. Bowlers can't do jack if runs are not scored.
Trichromatic Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Lord said: Already got docked 2 WTC points.So we should care even if we play 4 pacers. Learn from NZ,they manage it with 5 pacers When did that happen?
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: When did that happen? TB https://www.business-standard.com/article/sports/india-england-docked-2-wtc-points-each-for-slow-over-rate-in-1st-test-121081100779_1.html#:~:text=Home-,India%2C England docked 2 WTC points each for,over-rate in 1st Test&text=ICC match referee Chris Broad,allowances were taken into consideration.
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: This team badly needs extra batsman. Bowlers can't do jack if runs are not scored. not extra.Replacement.
Trichromatic Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Lord said: not extra.Replacement. Yeah, better replace Jadeja with Vihari. Drop Pujara, Kohli and Rahane.
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Trichromatic said: Yeah, better replace Jadeja with Vihari. Drop Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. bhai Vihari can come in for one of these. Jadeja has looked solid without making a big one due to batting low.He should swap places with Pant.
rkt.india Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Lord said: bhai Vihari can come in for one of these. Jadeja has looked solid without making a big one due to batting low.He should swap places with Pant. Jadeja doesn't make if we are playing four bowlers. As a bowler, he has looked part timer
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Jadeja doesn't make if we are playing four bowlers. As a bowler, he has looked part timer ofcourse.I am saying as top 7 bat+5th bowler
rkt.india Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord said: ofcourse.I am saying as top 7 bat+5th bowler Don't think he will be batting in top 6.
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Don't think he will be batting in top 6. he's looked better than Rahane and Pant
Lord Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, sarchasm said: Play Shaw and Sundar next test. And Ashwin. Rohit, Shaw, KL, Kohli, Sundar, Pant, Jadeja, Ashwin, Shami, Siraj, Bumrah Sundar is injured and back in India.
ash Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Ashwin for Ishant should be a straight swap. Pujara might have saved his place, we can see Vihari for Rahane. Not expecting any other change Vijy 1
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