zen Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) a) Look for attacking overseas batsmen for top order slots - Lewis, Buttler, Bairstow, Roy, Pooran, ... b) Back/develop positive players/youngsters in the top order including Kishan, Agarwal, Shaw, Jaiswal, V Iyer, Gaikwad, Samson, ... c) Promote naturally attacking/positive middle order batsmen (#4-7) players in the top 3-4 - SDP (Hardik), Pant, SKY (being played in top 3), ... Don't attempt to turn youngsters into stats obsessed batsman. Encourage them to go for their shots without worrying too much about getting out or result. If there is a ball to be hit, go for it. Create a positive fearless culture that pushes boundaries. Play T20s like T20s! Edited October 6, 2021 by zen speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I am very dissapointed with Rahul. He was such an attacking batsman till 2018...dont know why he has become Tuk Tuk now. Its not the case of ability, he can still smoke them but somehow try to play sheet anchor role every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I am very dissapointed with Rahul. He was such an attacking batsman till 2018...dont know why he has become Tuk Tuk now. Its not the case of ability, he can still smoke them but somehow try to play sheet anchor role every match. Same has happened with Pant too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, New guy said: Same has happened with Pant too Batsmen like Pant will not attempt to play slowly as a general rule. Their performance may be influenced by factors in the game and/or form. In middle order, a batsman may face different conditions and situations in different innings. At times, you are in at 50/3 and at times at 120/3, at times you have to build partnership and at times go from ball 1, sometimes pitches are getting difficult to bat and sometimes you get dew, many times you face death over specialists and many times a loose over, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I am very dissapointed with Rahul. He was such an attacking batsman till 2018...dont know why he has become Tuk Tuk now. Its not the case of ability, he can still smoke them but somehow try to play sheet anchor role every match. with Rahul its a case of following batting being poor. He has no choice but to bat long. Bats differently for India nevada and Cricspin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 hours ago, New guy said: Same has happened with Pant too Pant needs to bat below Hetmyer and go for it Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarantineTormentino Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I am very dissapointed with Rahul. He was such an attacking batsman till 2018...dont know why he has become Tuk Tuk now. Its not the case of ability, he can still smoke them but somehow try to play sheet anchor role every match. KL has to play with a brittle middle order in IPL. That’s why he does tuk tuk. I mean ffs his team couldn’t chase 4 from the final over lmao. In the National side he has the luxury of class batsmen coming in after him. Never ever give complete weightage to IPL performances, the roles played by players for their respective franchises is more often than not different from the roles they play for the National side. Same goes for foreigners as well. Another example - Hazlewood plays the role of an enforcer for CSK but is part of a 3-man pace attack for his national side, all of whom are enforcers nevada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Lord said: with Rahul its a case of following batting being poor. He has no choice but to bat long. Bats differently for India 6 hours ago, QuarantineTormentino said: KL has to play with a brittle middle order in IPL. That’s why he does tuk tuk. I mean ffs his team couldn’t chase 4 from the final over lmao. In the National side he has the luxury of class batsmen coming in after him. Never ever give complete weightage to IPL performances, the roles played by players for their respective franchises is more often than not different from the roles they play for the National side. Same goes for foreigners as well. Another example - Hazlewood plays the role of an enforcer for CSK but is part of a 3-man pace attack for his national side, all of whom are enforcers Meh, how is that tuk tuk helping his team? When you know that your team will still lose 9 out of 10 times you play those innings, why would you persist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, New guy said: Meh, how is that tuk tuk helping his team? When you know that your team will still lose 9 out of 10 times you play those innings, why would you persist? when he batted long they havent lost that much. In 6 of KXIP wins,hes MOTM five times batting till the last over. This approach clearly is only one working when others throw it away even from run a ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Lord said: when he batted long they havent lost that much. In 6 of KXIP wins,hes MOTM five times batting till the last over. This approach clearly is only one working when others throw it away even from run a ball That is a self serving argument: bat slowly -> get yourself set while leaving less balls for others -> get out at an inopportune time -> blame others for failing when they have not taken that much time to settle and have to bat to make things happen -> continue to bat slowly It is no wonder that world class batsman (Likes of Agarwal, Gayle, Pooran, & Markham, along with Maxwell in the past) continue to be put under unnecessary pressure at PK as one guy is more interested in the orange cap Edited October 7, 2021 by zen Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinbwj Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 KL's post match interview is full of brainfade. So the team wants him to play like a test match on a 5th day pitch.. Bullshit... You played like a pussy. THIS is the batting required at the top order you fool. We have enough grafters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, zen said: That is a self serving argument: bat slowly -> get yourself set while leaving less balls for others -> get out at an inopportune time -> blame others for failing when they have not taken that much time to settle and have to bat to make things happen -> continue to bat slowly It is no wonder that world class batsman (Likes of Agarwal, Gayle, Pooran, & Markham, along with Maxwell in the past) continue to be put under unnecessary pressure at PK as one guy continues to play for the orange cap thats not true.Most have failed despite having time and having RR within reach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Lord said: thats not true.Most have failed despite having time and having RR within reach Unfortunately, not many are buying that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, zen said: Unfortunately, not many are buying that facts need no buyers Today he showed how he'll bat for India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Lord said: facts need no buyers Today he showed how he'll bat for India Today he can play like that but not in other games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, zen said: Today he can play like that but not in other games today they needed to win in 13 overs,loss was immaterial. So could take extra risk. Others still failed. Today's approach wont work most times which will hurt team like kxip way more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lord said: today they needed to win in 13 overs,loss was immaterial. So could take extra risk. Others still failed. Today's approach wont work most times which will hurt team like kxip way more This is how top batsman are expected to play. Not do tuk tuk till 15-16 overs and then get out Last season too, it was Gayle and even Agarwal that kept PK in the hunt. PK lost a game to DC that it should have won, we did not see Agarwal resort to tuk tuk Edited October 7, 2021 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, zen said: This is how top batsman are expected to play. Not do tuk tuk till 15-16 overs and then get out Last season too, it was Gayle and even Agarwal that kept PK in the hunt. PK lost a game to DC that it should have won, we did not see Agarwal resort to tuk tuk no,the batsmen are expected to perform as per team requirements. Mayank is the basher,that exactly allows Rahul to bat long. Thats his role. Both don't need to bash. Thats the same with Faf-Gaikwad,Rohit-Kock,Dhawan-Shaw etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Lord said: no,the batsmen are expected to perform as per team requirements. Mayank is the basher,that exactly allows Rahul to bat long. Thats his role. Both don't need to bash. Thats the same with Faf-Gaikwad,Rohit-Kock,Dhawan-Shaw etc A self assigned role to allow him to play for the Orange Cap PK has not made any playoffs since 2014, pathetic if players continue to play like KL rather than taking charge and attack to the opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, zen said: A self assigned role to allow him to play for the Orange Cap PK has not made any playoffs since 2014, pathetic if players continue to play like KL rather than taking charge and attack to the opposition If the Orange cap comes at SR of 139,I don't mind.That's pretty much equal or better than all except sloggers like Maxwell analyze whole team to realize cause of poor team performances. KL has been doing his job and more. Cricspin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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