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IPL teams should look to move away from slow Indian top order (#1-3) batsmen in the upcoming auction

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a) Look for attacking overseas batsmen for top order slots - Lewis, Buttler, Bairstow, Roy, Pooran, ... 

b) Back/develop positive players/youngsters in the top order including Kishan, Agarwal, Shaw, Jaiswal, V Iyer, Gaikwad, Samson, ... 

c) Promote naturally attacking/positive middle order batsmen (#4-7) players in the top 3-4 - SDP (Hardik), Pant, SKY (being played in top 3), ... 

 

Don't attempt to turn youngsters into stats obsessed batsman. Encourage them to go for their shots without worrying too much about getting out or result. If there is a ball to be hit, go for it. Create a positive fearless culture that pushes boundaries. Play T20s like T20s! 

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1 hour ago, New guy said:

Same has happened with Pant too

 
Batsmen like Pant will not attempt to play slowly as a general rule. Their performance may be influenced by factors in the game and/or form. 
 

In middle order, a batsman may face different conditions and situations in different innings. At times, you are in at 50/3 and at times at 120/3, at times you have to build partnership and at times go from ball 1, sometimes pitches are getting difficult to bat and sometimes you get dew, many times you face death over specialists and many times a loose over, and so on. 

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10 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

I am very dissapointed with Rahul. He was such an attacking batsman till 2018...dont know why he has become Tuk Tuk now. Its not the case of ability, he can still smoke them but somehow try to play sheet anchor role every match.

 

with Rahul its a case of following batting being poor. He has no choice but to bat long.

 

Bats differently for India

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11 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

I am very dissapointed with Rahul. He was such an attacking batsman till 2018...dont know why he has become Tuk Tuk now. Its not the case of ability, he can still smoke them but somehow try to play sheet anchor role every match.

KL has to play with a brittle middle order in IPL. That’s why he does tuk tuk. I mean ffs his team couldn’t chase 4 from the final over lmao. In the National side he has the luxury of class batsmen coming in after him. Never ever give complete weightage to IPL performances, the roles played by players for their respective franchises is more often than not different from the roles they play for the National side. Same goes for foreigners as well. Another example - Hazlewood plays the role of an enforcer for CSK but is part of a 3-man pace attack for his national side, all of whom are enforcers

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6 hours ago, Lord said:

 

with Rahul its a case of following batting being poor. He has no choice but to bat long.

 

Bats differently for India

 

6 hours ago, QuarantineTormentino said:

KL has to play with a brittle middle order in IPL. That’s why he does tuk tuk. I mean ffs his team couldn’t chase 4 from the final over lmao. In the National side he has the luxury of class batsmen coming in after him. Never ever give complete weightage to IPL performances, the roles played by players for their respective franchises is more often than not different from the roles they play for the National side. Same goes for foreigners as well. Another example - Hazlewood plays the role of an enforcer for CSK but is part of a 3-man pace attack for his national side, all of whom are enforcers

Meh, how is that tuk tuk helping his team? When you know that your team will still lose 9 out of 10 times you play those innings, why would you persist?

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26 minutes ago, New guy said:

 

Meh, how is that tuk tuk helping his team? When you know that your team will still lose 9 out of 10 times you play those innings, why would you persist?

 

when he batted long they havent lost that much. In 6 of KXIP wins,hes MOTM five times batting till the last over.

 

This approach clearly is only one working when others throw it away even from run a ball

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42 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

when he batted long they havent lost that much. In 6 of KXIP wins,hes MOTM five times batting till the last over.

 

This approach clearly is only one working when others throw it away even from run a ball

 

That is a self serving argument: bat slowly -> get yourself set while leaving less balls for others -> get out at an inopportune time -> blame others for failing when they have not taken that much time to settle  and have to bat to make things happen -> continue to bat slowly 

 

It is no wonder that world class batsman (Likes of Agarwal, Gayle, Pooran, & Markham, along with Maxwell in the past) continue to be put under unnecessary pressure at PK as one guy is more interested in the orange cap :no:

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4 minutes ago, zen said:

 

That is a self serving argument: bat slowly -> get yourself set while leaving less balls for others -> get out at an inopportune time -> blame others for failing when they have not taken that much time to settle  and have to bat to make things happen -> continue to bat slowly 

 

It is no wonder that world class batsman (Likes of Agarwal, Gayle, Pooran, & Markham, along with Maxwell in the past) continue to be put under unnecessary pressure at PK as one guy continues to play for the orange cap :no:

 

thats not true.Most have failed despite having time and having RR within reach

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1 minute ago, zen said:

 

Today he can play like that but not in other games :facepalm:

 

 

 

today they needed to win in 13 overs,loss was immaterial. So could take extra risk. Others still failed.

 

Today's approach wont work most times which will hurt team like kxip way more

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3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

today they needed to win in 13 overs,loss was immaterial. So could take extra risk. Others still failed.

 

Today's approach wont work most times which will hurt team like kxip way more

 

This is how top batsman are expected to play. Not do tuk tuk till 15-16 overs and then get out 

 

Last season too, it was Gayle and even Agarwal that kept PK in the hunt. PK lost a game to DC that it should have won, we did not see Agarwal resort to tuk tuk 

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14 minutes ago, zen said:

 

This is how top batsman are expected to play. Not do tuk tuk till 15-16 overs and then get out 

 

Last season too, it was Gayle and even Agarwal that kept PK in the hunt. PK lost a game to DC that it should have won, we did not see Agarwal resort to tuk tuk 

 

no,the batsmen are expected to perform as per team requirements.

 

Mayank is the basher,that exactly allows Rahul to bat long. Thats his role. Both don't need to bash. Thats the same with Faf-Gaikwad,Rohit-Kock,Dhawan-Shaw etc

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Just now, Lord said:

 

no,the batsmen are expected to perform as per team requirements.

 

Mayank is the basher,that exactly allows Rahul to bat long. Thats his role. Both don't need to bash. Thats the same with Faf-Gaikwad,Rohit-Kock,Dhawan-Shaw etc


A self assigned role to allow him to play for the Orange Cap 

 

PK has not made any playoffs since 2014, pathetic if players continue to play like KL rather than taking charge and attack to the opposition 

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3 minutes ago, zen said:


A self assigned role to allow him to play for the Orange Cap 

 

PK has not made any playoffs since 2014, pathetic if players continue to play like KL rather than taking charge and attack to the opposition 

 

If the Orange cap comes at SR of 139,I don't mind.That's pretty much equal or better than all except sloggers like Maxwell

 

analyze whole team to realize cause of poor team performances. KL has been doing his job and more.

 

 

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