Lord Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Adamant said: The way people are waiting for him to bowl it looks like he is Malcolm Marshall, I think we have forgotten how expensive a bowler he was in lois. Just need 2 overs. We are opening bowling with Bhuvi Also if hes bowling sometime the confidence can help the batting. No pressure of being specialist batsman. Link to comment
maniac Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: question is why wasn’t this news given to us before the WC. After all the backlash, we hear such things. Before the WC- Pandya will be our finisher, he will bowl when needed etc but miraculously after Pak match he can bowl with optimum fitness. No accountability in this team. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
asterix Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Drop the fecker. He’s not ready and hasn’t had much bowling practice. Get somebody else in. Still has time. His type of. Wiling won’t affect anybody at n these pitches. just send him home to take rest & recover. India has lots of young talents. Don’t need a CSK type aging unit. Need players having “Jazbaa & Junoon”… Adi_91 and Frustrated 1 1 Link to comment
asterix Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 If Bhuvi plays any match in this series, that’s it, I’m going to hope India gets kicked out of this series ASAP, and they will… maniac 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, asterix said: Drop the fecker. He’s not ready and hasn’t had much bowling practice. Get somebody else in. Still has time. His type of. Wiling won’t affect anybody at n these pitches. just send him home to take rest & recover. India has lots of young talents. Don’t need a CSK type aging unit. Need players having “Jazbaa & Junoon”… these chews are making a chew out of us. He didn’t bowl in IPL, till the first match there was no indication he will bowl but one game people actually cared about went wrong, suddenly his bowling fitness is assessed and he is 100% bowling fit. This isn’t on Pandya, who doesn’t like free money and opportunities, someone in the team or all of them need to get fired. asterix 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, maniac said: question is why wasn’t this news given to us before the WC. After all the backlash, we hear such things. Before the WC- Pandya will be our finisher, he will bowl when needed etc but miraculously after Pak match he can bowl with optimum fitness. No accountability in this team. me n u dnt knw about his fitness or progress, its better not to speak about it coz we dnt know how good or able is his back. Injury isnt a laughing matter Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Adamant said: The way people are waiting for him to bowl it looks like he is Malcolm Marshall, I think we have forgotten how expensive a bowler he was in lois. 5.6 in ODI and 8.17 in t20 is expensive Link to comment
maniac Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: me n u dnt knw about his fitness or progress, its better not to speak about it coz we dnt know how good or able is his back. Injury isnt a laughing matter Who is laughing at his injury, most are laughing at the tamasha surrounding the injury. Injury in sports is binary. You are either fit or not. It’s not like I have a little cold but I can manage at work type profession. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, maniac said: question is why wasn’t this news given to us before the WC. After all the backlash, we hear such things. Before the WC- Pandya will be our finisher, he will bowl when needed etc but miraculously after Pak match he can bowl with optimum fitness. No accountability in this team. if it was ever needed,it was vs game v Pak maniac and asterix 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, maniac said: Who is laughing at his injury, most are laughing at the tamasha surrounding the injury. Injury in sports is binary. You are either fit or not. It’s not like I have a little cold but I can manage at work type profession. same thing he is fit enough to bat not bowl, how tough is it to understand . Has happened to many, russell has been playing with injury every year every league . Itna to comman sense hai na ki as a medium pacer u need completely diff kind of fitness . Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) del Edited October 27, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 5.6 in ODI and 8.17 in t20 is expensive Yes he is a very ordinary bowler, who doesn't have any discernible skills with the ball. The only good thing about his bowling was pace and now after injury he will bowl 130 kph, going to get hammered. Also Ipl ki economy bhi check karo ek baar. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Adamant said: Yes he is a very ordinary bowler, who doesn't have any discernible skills with the ball. \ then u dnt understand jackshit about bowling, he has one the best away going ball which is why he got a fifer in england, Very good slower ball bouncer He was MOM for his bowling in 1st game when he has given new ball coz he had skill. 5.6 is pretty good for a 5th bowler.............stokes has around 6 . Shami has higher eco then him in LOI Quote The only good thing about his bowling was pace and now after injury he will bowl 130 kph, going to get hammered. Also Ipl ki economy bhi check karo ek baar. IPL international hai ??? Chalo IPL ki baat krlete hai...........9.6 is ok (considering he plays half his games in Wankhede as 5th bowler its decent) in 2018 he was MI highest wkt taker Edited October 27, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 F*** that we need a extra batsman.. That Malnourished tail needs Shardul Thakur. Drop Pandya & Bhuvi & end this circus. Let Kishan open.. Don't waste his talent Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: then u dnt understand jackshit about bowling, he has one the best away going ball which is why he got a fifer in england, Very good slower ball bouncer He was MOM for his bowling in 1st game when he has given new ball coz he had skill. 5.6 is pretty good for a 5th bowler.............stokes has around 6 . Shami has higher eco then him in LOI IPL international hai ??? Chalo IPL ki baat krlete hai...........9.6 is ok (considering he plays half his games in Wankhede as 5th bowler its decent) in 2018 he was MI highest wkt taker Look at my first post where I said he is an expensive bowler in lois. In test cricket, with due respect to all bowlers, a medium pacer taking a fifer in English conditions isn't actually a good measure of his ability. I have seen quite a few noob bowlers taking fifers there. Getting lateral movement in England (specifically on some grounds) isn't a big deal, he bowls gun barrel straight everywhere else. Shami has higher economy than him and everyone knows that he is prone to getting hit around the park but unlike Pandya, Shami can actually demolish the opposition and that's why he averages 25 there. In lois he has no discernible skills with the ball, ab pace bhi nahi hai, dekhte hain kya hota hai. Above all this, he does not have good control and his bowling intelligence is very low. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adamant said: Look at my first post where I said he is an expensive bowler in lois. proven wrong thats not high economy specially for a 5th bowler 6+ is expensive eco and many teams will take that for 5th bowler which btw stokes has, hardik has 5.6 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adamant said: Look at my first post where I said he is an expensive bowler in lois. proven wrong thats not high economy specially for a 5th bowler 6+ is expensive eco and many teams will take that for 5th bowler which btw stokes has, hardik has 5.6 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Adamant said: In lois he has no discernible skills with the ball, i recommend watching cricket and carefully when he bowls next also learn about slower ball, short ball, outswing, slower ball bouncer Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i recommend watching cricket and carefully when he bowls next also learn about slower ball, short ball, outswing, slower ball bouncer I recommend you to close your tv and actually walk out to a cricket field, kaunsa pacer hai duniya mai jo ye saari ball nahi daal sakta? Short ball, lol. The real mastery lies in executing these with perfection , realizing when to bowl these deliveries, which length to hit and not in knowing how to bowl these deliveries, everyone and his dog can bowl these deliveries. And his execution is piss poor, that's why he averages 43 in odis. He would average worse in tests too if he actually plays more tests. Ek fifer ne bacha liya average. I advise you to not rate a bowler on how many different balls he can bowl, rate him on how he executes these deliveries. Varna duniya ke saare pacer aapko acche hi lagenge. Pandya bowls gun barrel straight, anyone who has watched him in lois knows that. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 We need to look at performance of 6th bowler in the limited games that have been played so far. For pakistan hafeez has gone for runs. SL vs BD all rounders who bowled in both teams were punished. Pollard only bowled a couple of overs yet went for run. The only exception are Markram and livingstone but we have example of similar bowlers not doing well. On these track 6th bowler might just be a luxury than necessity. Link to comment
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