Why are DMK and left screwing up economy ?

[ravishingravi]

Mind you this is vs very low base of 2020 

[Vilander]

Growth is based on baseline. If base is very low to start with then even a small increase will mean high growth. Please post GST REVENUE NUMBERS FOR EACH STATE. 

[Trichromatic]

Didn't get the what has tweet to do with thread title. 

[velu]

DMK was known for building roads and flyovers when they were in power ( and taking a big cut for themselves  ) .. 

 

they went overboard by opposing all the infra projects in the last 5 years and I hope they don’t screw tn now

[coffee_rules]

4 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Didn't get the what has tweet to do with thread title. 

TN had the least growth in GST revenue amongst developed states. Its growth is comparable to MP, Telangana and AP

[Trichromatic]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

TN had the least growth in GST revenue amongst developed states. Its growth is comparable to MP, Telangana and AP

 

And conclusion is DMK and left is screwing up economy with 1 month data?

 

Tamil Nadu had GST growth of 36% compared to overall growth of 32% in July 2021

 

Major states with BJP govt and BJP and growth more than 20% - Haryana, Gujarat, Bihar.

 

Major states with DMK and left and growth more than 20% - Tamil Nadu, Kerala.

 

Other non-BJP states with 20% growth rate - Jharkhand, Odisha, Maharashtra, Delhi, CG, Punjab, Andhra, Telangana.

 

Karnataka - 12%, Rajasthan - 12%, Uttarakhand - 12%, WB- 15%, MP - 16%, UP - 18% - worst performing major states

 

 

Sr No	State	Jul-20	Jul-21	Growth
38	Ladakh	7	13	95%
26	Dadra and Nagar Haveli	130	227	74%
12	Arunachal Pradesh	33	55	69%
20	Jharkhand	1,340	2,056	54%
21	Odisha	2,348	3,615	54%
6	Haryana	3,483	5,330	53%
27	Maharashtra	12,508	18,899	51%
14	Manipur	25	37	48%
1	Jammu and Kashmir	298	432	45%
7	Delhi	2,629	3,815	45%
39	Other Territory	97	141	45%
16	Tripura	48	65	36%
24	Gujarat	5,621	7,629	36%
33	Tamil Nadu	4,635	6,302	36%
22	Chattisgarh	1,832	2,432	33%
	Grand Total	66,291	87,678	32%
15	Mizoram	16	21	31%
3	Punjab	1,188	1,533	29%
37	Andhra Pradesh	2,138	2,730	28%
32	Kerala	1,318	1,675	27%
36	Telangana	2,876	3,610	26%
4	Chandigarh	137	169	23%
18	Assam	723	882	22%
10	Bihar	1,061	1,281	21%
9	Uttar Pradesh	5,099	6,011	18%
30	Goa	257	303	18%
23	Madhya Pradesh	2,289	2,657	16%
19	West Bengal	3,010	3,463	15%
5	Uttarakhand	988	1,106	12%
8	Rajasthan	2,797	3,129	12%
29	Karnataka	6,014	6,737	12%
13	Nagaland	25	28	11%
2	Himachal Pradesh	605	667	10%
11	Sikkim	186	197	6%
35	Andaman and Nicobar Islands	18	19	6%
17	Meghalaya	120	121	1%
34	Puducherry	136	129	-6%
40	Center Jurisdiction	179	161	-10%
31	Lakshadweep	2	1	-42%
25	Daman and Diu	77	0	-99%

 

[Trichromatic]

Tamil Nadu had overall growth of 35% compared to overall growth of 27% in August 2021.

Kerala had growth of 31%.

 

So, DMK was not screwing economy in August 2021.

 

States with higher growth rate - Jharkhand and Odisha. Karnataka had 35%

 

UP had growth of 17%, MP 10% , Uttarakhand 8%, Bihar 7% were among worst performing states in August 2021.

 

	State	August-20	August-21	% growth
31	Lakshadweep	0	1	220%
38	Ladakh	5	14	213%
26	Dadra and Nagar Haveli	145	254	74%
14	Manipur	26	45	71%
35	Andaman and Nicobar Islands	13	20	58%
12	Arunachal Pradesh	35	53	52%
11	Sikkim	147	219	49%
20	Jharkhand	1,498	2,166	45%
21	Odisha	2,348	3,317	41%
18	Assam	709	959	35%
29	Karnataka	5,502	7,429	35%
33	Tamil Nadu	5,243	7,060	35%
30	Goa	213	285	34%
37	Andhra Pradesh	1,955	2,591	33%
99	Center Jurisdiction	161	214	33%
15	Mizoram	12	16	31%
27	Maharashtra	11,602	15,175	31%
32	Kerala	1,229	1,612	31%
16	Tripura	43	56	30%
6	Haryana	4,373	5,618	28%
	Grand Total	66,598	84,490	27%
36	Telangana	2,793	3,526	26%
7	Delhi	2,880	3,605	25%
24	Gujarat	6,030	7,556	25%
3	Punjab	1,139	1,414	24%
1	Jammu and Kashmir	326	392	20%
19	West Bengal	3,053	3,678	20%
22	Chhattisgarh	1,994	2,391	20%
2	Himachal Pradesh	597	704	18%
8	Rajasthan	2,582	3,049	18%
9	Uttar Pradesh	5,098	5,946	17%
34	Puducherry	137	156	14%
17	Meghalaya	108	119	10%
23	Madhya Pradesh	2,209	2,438	10%
5	Uttarakhand	1,006	1,089	8%
10	Bihar	967	1,037	7%
4	Chandigarh	139	144	4%
13	Nagaland	31	32	2%
97	Other Territory	180	109	-40%
25	Daman and Diu	70	1	-99%

[Trichromatic]

March 2021

 

Overall 17%

 

Best performing major states - Odisha (25%) , Kerala (24%) , Tamil Nadu (23%) , WB (22%)

 

Worst performing major states - Bihar (13%), MP 13%. Karanatak 11%., Uttarakhand 9%, Assam 8%, AP 5%

 

	State	Mar-20	Mar-21	Growth
38	Ladakh	0.84	13.67	1527%
99	Centre Jurisdiction	81.48	141.12	73%
26	Dadra and Nagar Haveli	168.89	288.49	71%
14	Manipur	35.89	50.36	40%
12	Arunachal Pradesh	66.71	92.03	38%
16	Tripura	67.1	87.9	31%
1	Jammu and Kashmir	276.17	351.61	27%
21	Odisha	2,632.88	3,285.29	25%
32	Kerala	1,475.25	1,827.94	24%
33	Tamil Nadu	6,177.82	7,579.18	23%
19	West Bengal	3,582.26	4,386.79	22%
22	Chhattisgarh	2,093.17	2,544.13	22%
7	Delhi	3,272.99	3,925.97	20%
24	Gujarat	6,820.46	8,197.04	20%
8	Rajasthan	2,820.44	3,351.79	19%
9	Uttar Pradesh	5,293.72	6,265.01	18%
20	Jharkhand	2,049.43	2,416.13	18%
6	Haryana	4,874.29	5,709.60	17%
13	Nagaland	38.75	45.48	17%
36	Telangana	3,562.56	4,166.42	17%
	Grand Total	78693.75	91869.7	17%
2	Himachal Pradesh	595.89	686.88	15%
3	Punjab	1,180.81	1,361.85	15%
17	Meghalaya	132.72	151.97	15%
31	Lakshadweep	1.34	1.54	15%
27	Maharashtra	15,002.11	17,038.49	14%
10	Bihar	1,055.94	1,195.75	13%
11	Sikkim	189.33	213.66	13%
23	Madhya Pradesh	2,407.40	2,728.49	13%
29	Karnataka	7,144.30	7,914.98	11%
5	Uttarakhand	1,194.74	1,303.57	9%
30	Goa	316.47	344.28	9%
4	Chandigarh	153.26	165.27	8%
18	Assam	931.72	1,004.65	8%
34	Puducherry	149.32	161.04	8%
15	Mizoram	33.19	34.93	5%
37	Andhra Pradesh	2,548.13	2,685.09	5%
97	Other Territory	132.49	122.39	-8%
35	Andaman and Nicobar Islands	38.58	25.66	-33%
25	Daman and Diu	94.91	3.29	-97%

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

And conclusion is DMK and left is screwing up economy with 1 month data?

 

Tamil Nadu had GST growth of 36% compared to overall growth of 32% in July 2021

 

Major states with BJP govt and BJP and growth more than 20% - Haryana, Gujarat, Bihar.

 

Major states with DMK and left and growth more than 20% - Tamil Nadu, Kerala.

 

Other non-BJP states with 20% growth rate - Jharkhand, Odisha, Maharashtra, Delhi, CG, Punjab, Andhra, Telangana.

 

Karnataka - 12%, Rajasthan - 12%, Uttarakhand - 12%, WB- 15%, MP - 16%, UP - 18% - worst performing major states

 

 

Sr No	State	Jul-20	Jul-21	Growth
38	Ladakh	7	13	95%
26	Dadra and Nagar Haveli	130	227	74%
12	Arunachal Pradesh	33	55	69%
20	Jharkhand	1,340	2,056	54%
21	Odisha	2,348	3,615	54%
6	Haryana	3,483	5,330	53%
27	Maharashtra	12,508	18,899	51%
14	Manipur	25	37	48%
1	Jammu and Kashmir	298	432	45%
7	Delhi	2,629	3,815	45%
39	Other Territory	97	141	45%
16	Tripura	48	65	36%
24	Gujarat	5,621	7,629	36%
33	Tamil Nadu	4,635	6,302	36%
22	Chattisgarh	1,832	2,432	33%
	Grand Total	66,291	87,678	32%
15	Mizoram	16	21	31%
3	Punjab	1,188	1,533	29%
37	Andhra Pradesh	2,138	2,730	28%
32	Kerala	1,318	1,675	27%
36	Telangana	2,876	3,610	26%
4	Chandigarh	137	169	23%
18	Assam	723	882	22%
10	Bihar	1,061	1,281	21%
9	Uttar Pradesh	5,099	6,011	18%
30	Goa	257	303	18%
23	Madhya Pradesh	2,289	2,657	16%
19	West Bengal	3,010	3,463	15%
5	Uttarakhand	988	1,106	12%
8	Rajasthan	2,797	3,129	12%
29	Karnataka	6,014	6,737	12%
13	Nagaland	25	28	11%
2	Himachal Pradesh	605	667	10%
11	Sikkim	186	197	6%
35	Andaman and Nicobar Islands	18	19	6%
17	Meghalaya	120	121	1%
34	Puducherry	136	129	-6%
40	Center Jurisdiction	179	161	-10%
31	Lakshadweep	2	1	-42%
25	Daman and Diu	77	0	-99%

 

I was only trying to explain the intent of the OP , I may be wrong

[dial_100]

4 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

March 2021

 

Overall 17%

 

Best performing major states - Odisha (25%) , Kerala (24%) , Tamil Nadu (23%) , WB (22%)

 

Worst performing major states - Bihar (13%), MP 13%. Karanatak 11%., Uttarakhand 9%, Assam 8%, AP 5%

 

	State	Mar-20	Mar-21	Growth
38	Ladakh	0.84	13.67	1527%
99	Centre Jurisdiction	81.48	141.12	73%
26	Dadra and Nagar Haveli	168.89	288.49	71%
14	Manipur	35.89	50.36	40%
12	Arunachal Pradesh	66.71	92.03	38%
16	Tripura	67.1	87.9	31%
1	Jammu and Kashmir	276.17	351.61	27%
21	Odisha	2,632.88	3,285.29	25%
32	Kerala	1,475.25	1,827.94	24%
33	Tamil Nadu	6,177.82	7,579.18	23%
19	West Bengal	3,582.26	4,386.79	22%
22	Chhattisgarh	2,093.17	2,544.13	22%
7	Delhi	3,272.99	3,925.97	20%
24	Gujarat	6,820.46	8,197.04	20%
8	Rajasthan	2,820.44	3,351.79	19%
9	Uttar Pradesh	5,293.72	6,265.01	18%
20	Jharkhand	2,049.43	2,416.13	18%
6	Haryana	4,874.29	5,709.60	17%
13	Nagaland	38.75	45.48	17%
36	Telangana	3,562.56	4,166.42	17%
	Grand Total	78693.75	91869.7	17%
2	Himachal Pradesh	595.89	686.88	15%
3	Punjab	1,180.81	1,361.85	15%
17	Meghalaya	132.72	151.97	15%
31	Lakshadweep	1.34	1.54	15%
27	Maharashtra	15,002.11	17,038.49	14%
10	Bihar	1,055.94	1,195.75	13%
11	Sikkim	189.33	213.66	13%
23	Madhya Pradesh	2,407.40	2,728.49	13%
29	Karnataka	7,144.30	7,914.98	11%
5	Uttarakhand	1,194.74	1,303.57	9%
30	Goa	316.47	344.28	9%
4	Chandigarh	153.26	165.27	8%
18	Assam	931.72	1,004.65	8%
34	Puducherry	149.32	161.04	8%
15	Mizoram	33.19	34.93	5%
37	Andhra Pradesh	2,548.13	2,685.09	5%
97	Other Territory	132.49	122.39	-8%
35	Andaman and Nicobar Islands	38.58	25.66	-33%
25	Daman and Diu	94.91	3.29	-97%

 

@Trichromatic These numbers you shared for Mar, Jul and Aug 2021 YoY definitely suggest that TN has snapped back to its original GST collections. 

 

But the states you are comparing TN with, how would you compare them? By putting which state is achieving pre-pandemic state faster in a particular month of w.r.t. to their potential GDP.

 

If I were to understand objectively then it suggests, despite being #2 state in terms of SGDP in India, TN's GST collection only stood at 7900 level compared to KA @ 8200 and GJ @ 8400 level which are 3rd and 4th states in terms of GDP

 

Similarly, Kerala GST collections are much worst than many states which GDP wise are way bellow Kerala like, MP, Hariyana, Punjab and even Bihar.

 

I am not 100% sure and I totally could be wrong here but I would look at these numbers this way and not in a point of who recovered from Pandemic back to its original state.  BTW, I know GST collection is part of the GST. So going by that, BJP states and some non-BJP states are doing so much better than TN and Left states.  

[Trichromatic]

1 hour ago, dial_100 said:

 

@Trichromatic These numbers you shared for Mar, Jul and Aug 2021 YoY definitely suggest that TN has snapped back to its original GST collections. 

 

But the states you are comparing TN with, how would you compare them? By putting which state is achieving pre-pandemic state faster in a particular month of w.r.t. to their potential GDP.

 

If I were to understand objectively then it suggests, despite being #2 state in terms of SGDP in India, TN's GST collection only stood at 7900 level compared to KA @ 8200 and GJ @ 8400 level which are 3rd and 4th states in terms of GDP

 

Similarly, Kerala GST collections are much worst than many states which GDP wise are way bellow Kerala like, MP, Hariyana, Punjab and even Bihar.

 

I am not 100% sure and I totally could be wrong here but I would look at these numbers this way and not in a point of who recovered from Pandemic back to its original state.  BTW, I know GST collection is part of the GST. So going by that, BJP states and some non-BJP states are doing so much better than TN and Left states.  

 

 

First I would not compare 1 month data and that too GST collection growth to conclude that one state is screwing economy. 

 

The reason I posted data from different month is to show that growth rates are not consistent and may vary month to month. If I were to make similar conclusion, what should I conclude - BJP was screwing economy if I had to create this thread in March and August? Does it even make sense?

 

October is reference point for recovery point from pandemic and August isn't? 

 

Tamil Nadu had overall growth of 35% compared to overall growth of 27% in August 2021.

Kerala had growth of 31%.

 

UP had growth of 17%, MP 10% , Uttarakhand 8%, Bihar 7% were among worst performing states in August 2021.

 

Some of the BJP ruled states weren't even hitting half of what TN managed in August.

 

Growth rates don't change linearly througout the year.

 

 

[dial_100]

3 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

 

 

First I would not compare 1 month data and that too GST collection growth to conclude that one state is screwing economy. 

 

The reason I posted data from different month is to show that growth rates are not consistent and may vary month to month. If I were to make similar conclusion, what should I conclude - BJP was screwing economy if I had to create this thread in March and August? Does it even make sense?

 

October is reference point for recovery point from pandemic and August isn't? 

 

Tamil Nadu had overall growth of 35% compared to overall growth of 27% in August 2021.

Kerala had growth of 31%.

 

UP had growth of 17%, MP 10% , Uttarakhand 8%, Bihar 7% were among worst performing states in August 2021.

 

Some of the BJP ruled states weren't even hitting half of what TN managed in August.

 

Growth rates don't change linearly througout the year.

 

 

 

 

But I am saying these percentage are not the right measure. I am saying, based on the size of a state and the size of their economy, their GST should reflect in collection. 

Here is the ratio of GST Collection to the states total GDP (in $Bil). if you see the ratio, you will see why someone thinks DMK & Left states not doing enough to reflect in their GST collections.

 

KER:
1932/110  = 17.56 times

MP:
2666/130  = 20.50 times

WB:
4259/181  = 23.53 times

RJ:
3423/140  = 24.45 times

TN:
7642/297  = 25.73 times

UP:
6775/240  = 28.23 times

KA:
8259/228  = 36.22 times

GJ:
8497/230  = 36.94 times

MH:
19355/370 = 52.31 times
 

If you have everything in rupees and do the rations they will come to same except, decimal placement will be different.

[Trichromatic]

4 hours ago, dial_100 said:

 

 

But I am saying these percentage are not the right measure. I am saying, based on the size of a state and the size of their economy, their GST should reflect in collection. 

Here is the ratio of GST Collection to the states total GDP (in $Bil). if you see the ratio, you will see why someone thinks DMK & Left states not doing enough to reflect in their GST collections.

 

KER:
1932/110  = 17.56 times

MP:
2666/130  = 20.50 times

WB:
4259/181  = 23.53 times

RJ:
3423/140  = 24.45 times

TN:
7642/297  = 25.73 times

UP:
6775/240  = 28.23 times

KA:
8259/228  = 36.22 times

GJ:
8497/230  = 36.94 times

MH:
19355/370 = 52.31 times
 

If you have everything in rupees and do the rations they will come to same except, decimal placement will be different.

 

1. Who is responsible for GST collection? GST collection is handled by central and state govt both.

2. What is GST and why should it be in equal ratio to GDP for all states?

3. Why should GST to GDP ratio sholuld be uniform throughout the year for each month? What's the basis of this assumption? GST collection doesn't increase from January to December. It may decrease in some months and increase in some.