Adi_91 Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: These pitches are slower pitches. Even half tracker specialist Shadab got away with good spells. Chahal would have been effective. Chahar was picked for his speed. But bowling faster is not the way you get wickets here. Given the selectors blundered by not picking Chahal, we have no better option than Chahar. But I don't think he is getting a game in the last match. VC has been found out. Not sure what made him a mystery spinner to begin with.
vvvslaxman Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: Given the selectors blundered by not picking Chahal, we have no better option than Chahar. But I don't think he is getting a game in the last match. VC has been found out. Not sure what made him a mystery spinner to begin with. Load up the side with spinners if you ask me. Chahar/Ashwin/Jaddu all 3. Just use them in various stages. Ashwin inside power play. Chahar/Jaddu in middle overs.
Adi_91 Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Load up the side with spinners if you ask me. Chahar/Ashwin/Jaddu all 3. Just use them in various stages. Ashwin inside power play. Chahar/Jaddu in middle overs. Should have played 3 spinners right from NZ game in my opinion barring VC. Our captain as always made a mess of the selection.
sensible-indian Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, BlueBlood said: KulCha were still good in T20s. The problem was again stupid batsman friendly bilaterals ODIs ruined them with AUS, IND etc. Where Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli scored big but our bowlers barring Bumrah lost confidence. Same with Varun, he has no clear role in the team. He is brought in to bowl powerplay overs with field in. He bowled well in all games while Jaddu was exposed here. The irony of Scotland not "reading" Jadeja is a joke. By then Bumrah and Varun sucked their momentum in powerplay overs. You need players who will do this they may not take wickets but their contribution is very valuable. Think of it simply like this: If we face Pak again, would you trust Jaddu and Ashwin against Babar, Hafeez and Rizvan in powerplays? If your answer is no, then you already got the answer on why Varun is critical to the team balance. Fickle fans will look at stats and talk like Jadeja is an ATG spinner when same guy got destroyed by Pak and even NZ and released all pressure with his darts. Anyway, go ahead drop Varun and bring in Chahar you will see the difference in powerplay overs. Ashwin got lucky with AFG, he won't get so lucky always as we saw today against Scotland. Partly i agree. Partly i disagree. Yes they struggled to read Jaddus bowling. The pitch was gripping and they couldnt handle his test lengths. Not saying Jaddu will replicate this but Scotland batsmen had some awful techniques to play Jaddu. You see this happen with minnows all the time. Put Mishra against minnows and he will outpeform almost every spinner. Not comparing Mishra with Jaddu but everything aint about pressure.
Khota Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Can @Ankit_sharma03 explain the hard ons he was having about this player when we felt he was going to fail India never played with more than two bowlers in a consequential game
Vijy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 chakra has essentially been a slow-medium bowler. reminds me more of an amarnath or a chris harris than a "spinner" (I know all 3 bowlers are different) vvvslaxman 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Vijy said: chakra has essentially been a slow-medium bowler. reminds me more of an amarnath or a chris harris than a "spinner" (I know all 3 bowlers are different) yes. Apt comparison. Chris harris always had this leg spin action. But a medium pacer. Even Kumble was treated like seamer after some time in the one dayers.
Kothili Posted November 7, 2021 Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) On 11/5/2021 at 1:24 PM, Rantzz said: Chahar was dropped from his IPL team. Same team that couldn’t even qualify for the playoffs what makes anyone think he deserves an Indian spot? selectors messed this one up As if more than 50% of MI make up National squad is not enough. Glad we lost. Edited November 7, 2021 by Kothili Rantzz 1
Lord Posted November 7, 2021 Posted November 7, 2021 bowls too fast and thus gets less deviation either way. Should look at Theekshana on how to use his variations
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