Shaheen Afridi & Zaheer Khan (Both left armers, but while Zak dominated LH batsmen, Shaheen Afridi is dominated by LH batsmen). What explains such lop sided dominance ?

[rangeelaraja]

20 minutes ago, maniac said:

Most Pakistanis bowlers are good in T20 because they run out of gas after 4-6 overs usually. Shaheen gets tonked after his first 2 usually.

 

Let Shaheen accomplish something in ODis or tests and then we can compare him with Zaheer.

 

Umar Gul and Shahid Afridi are legendary T20 bowlers too but who cares.

how is that possibly true when they have a more tagdi diet, they talk, walk differently ? 
they have a more tagda DNA according to an ex cricketer now no1  JU-tuber  in the subcontinent. 
 

their  tagda DNA must give them a more tagda stamina. Plus they have the spiritual support of the entire Muslim ummah and alam e Islam - this itself gives them endless stamina. 
 

ho hee nahi sakta.

Edited November 14, 2021 by rangeelaraja

[First class]

On 11/13/2021 at 1:25 AM, MechEng said:

You must also factor in that Zaheer Khan never had the physical ability to bowl fast, so he compensated that with a tactical brain by setting up a batsman and bowling the delivery he would least expect the next ball, outfoxing him.

 

Shaheen Afridi is a natural fast bowler who relies on sheer pace and late swing instead of doing the thinking part.

Afridi is still new, still learning . A year ago he was not capable of bringing the ball in for RHB , now is good in that. Wahab Riaz after 15 years of international cricket , could not mater that. 

[Vilander]

Honestly who the * cares by the time India next play Pak sofa set afridi would have probably done match fixing or would be out of form of something. Icf these days lol 

[First class]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

Honestly who the * cares by the time India next play Pak sofa set afridi would have probably done match fixing or would be out of form of something. Icf these days lol 

Another spoiler , ridiculous , pathetic comment. Don;t you have mental capability to refrain yourself from posting negative comments for Pakistani players all the time , how old are you , just curious , in elementary school ?

[cricketfan28]

Has all the potential to become an all time great. 

[Pakistan]

Shaheen is a kid he will get better with age I hope for our sake.

[Vilander]

3 hours ago, First class said:

Another spoiler , ridiculous , pathetic comment. Don;t you have mental capability to refrain yourself from posting negative comments for Pakistani players all the time , how old are you , just curious , in elementary school ?

 

Midget you will use my comments on me? Go correct your rabid Hindu hating society. Run back where you came from 

[MechEng]

5 hours ago, First class said:

Afridi is still new, still learning . A year ago he was not capable of bringing the ball in for RHB , now is good in that. Wahab Riaz after 15 years of international cricket , could not mater that. 

 

His pace will always be his asset and need not rely on other skills. Zaheer Khan was over reliant on slower deliveries and knuckle balls when there was no reverse swing, since he could not bowl fast.

[rangeelaraja]

17 minutes ago, Aiden said:

 A society which use abusive words for other religions is still better than the one who lynched their own minorities in public for just practicing their religion.

Have some shame you pathetic lieing creature. Minorities are being forced to convert because life is impossible for them in Pakistan. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/world/asia/pakistan-hindu-conversion.amp.html

 

The whole bloody world reports how China has prisoned Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang in camps, whereas Pak which sheds crocodile tears for Islam  ( so as to get money into its begging bowl from the gulf ) , says nothing is happening against Muslims in Xinjiang. 
 

Why so ? Sold Islam to be a Chinese slave ??

[First class]

7 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

Have some shame you pathetic lieing creature. Minorities are being forced to convert because life is impossible for them in Pakistan. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/world/asia/pakistan-hindu-conversion.amp.html

 

The whole bloody world reports how China has prisoned Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang in camps, whereas Pak which sheds crocodile tears for Islam  ( so as to get money into its begging bowl from the gulf ) , says nothing is happening against Muslims in Xinjiang. 
 

Why so ? Sold Islam to be a Chinese slave ??

And this supposed to be a cricket forum, please go to chit chat for all this BS. 

[Mesky99]

1 hour ago, First class said:

And this supposed to be a cricket forum, please go to chit chat for all this BS. 

There is scope for talk on geo politics and religious persecution of minorites in Pakistan at all times tbh, since the shami episode it's been a constant unsuccessful effort by the Pakistanis to act holier than thou and define themselves as some morally superior people when it comes to minority treatment in Pakistan, this obviously is false, Pakistan is a religious fanatic nation with over 72 black listed foreign islamic terror organisations, the small Hindu pop that exists in Pak Sindh are socially, politically and economically boycotted, their places of worship are destroyed regularly, girls as young as 15 kidnapped, converted and married of to random Muslim men, they have no political voice and minority committee Is very useless, cases go to courts where Hindu girls are forced not to speak out and just like that parents lose their daughters to filthy mullahs like mian mitho and co, Muslims in india are pampered to no limit, they get direct funding from centre for islamic educational institutes and madarassa's, at the public, private or political level there is no bias against them and the constitution allows them hold important posts in bureaucracy or as political representatives, during partition majority of the Muslims in undivided India voted for a islamic Pakistan but over 70% stayed over in India, they infact got the best out of both worlds, poor Hindus were played around by secular India.

 

[Vilander]

3 hours ago, First class said:

And this supposed to be a cricket forum, please go to chit chat for all this BS. 

Shut up hypocrite. No Pakistani has right to question Ind on morals or religious freedom. Look at your country first.

[First class]

3 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

There is scope for talk on geo politics and religious persecution of minorites in Pakistan at all times tbh, since the shami episode it's been a constant unsuccessful effort by the Pakistanis to act holier than thou and define themselves as some morally superior people when it comes to minority treatment in Pakistan, this obviously is false, Pakistan is a religious fanatic nation with over 72 black listed foreign islamic terror organisations, the small Hindu pop that exists in Pak Sindh are socially, politically and economically boycotted, their places of worship are destroyed regularly, girls as young as 15 kidnapped, converted and married of to random Muslim men, they have no political voice and minority committee Is very useless, cases go to courts where Hindu girls are forced not to speak out and just like that parents lose their daughters to filthy mullahs like mian mitho and co, Muslims in india are pampered to no limit, they get direct funding from centre for islamic educational institutes and madarassa's, at the public, private or political level there is no bias against them and the constitution allows them hold important posts in bureaucracy or as political representatives, during partition majority of the Muslims in undivided India voted for a islamic Pakistan but over 70% stayed over in India, they infact got the best out of both worlds, poor Hindus were played around by secular India.

 

Don't have time or interest in reading your crap, all I know this is a wonderful forum with majority of the posters have good cricket knowledge and I enjoy their comments but unfortunately , there are some like you who have infested this forum like bad germs and there is no filter or germicide applied here to block you guys . Every time there is good discussion , you guys pops up like disease spreading insects to play the spoiler role, its just unfortunate. 

[Mesky99]

10 minutes ago, First class said:

Don't have time or interest in reading your crap, all I know this is a wonderful forum with majority of the posters have good cricket knowledge and I enjoy their comments but unfortunately , there are some like you who have infested this forum like bad germs and there is no filter or germicide applied here to block you guys . Every time there is good discussion , you guys pops up like disease spreading insects to play the spoiler role, its just unfortunate. 

Well the truth hurts, disinfectants are normally used in killing germs and bacteria, islamic jihadism is a disease and it affects india, Pakistan geo politically is a enemy nation, plus it was aiden who started slandering Hindus.

 

[rangeelaraja]

@First class   

 

Our woke captain hugged and congratulated your team and the whole of India appreciated Pak's good performance and first victory against India in the WC.

 

And what did India get in return ?  Anti-Hindu hate speeches by your cricketers Waqar, Akhtar and your ministers Fawad Chaudhary and Sheikh Rasheed.

 

This is in a sense reminiscent of a national character that refuses to change.

 

Nothing is more reminiscent of this than the Lahore bus trip my former PM Vajpayee took in 98/99 to extend a hand of peace. And what did India get in return ? Kargil 99.

 

 Look within with some honesty and you will get all the answers and perhaps feel very ashamed.

 

Your Oxford educated PM Imran  has used the choicest abuses on twitter against my PM Modi, whereas my PM has not even deemed him worthy of responding.

 

This shows the huge gulf in the character of the 2 countries. You have every right ( and perhaps duty) to feel ashamed. You deserve everything that has come your way.

 

No sympathies. 

Edited November 16, 2021 by rangeelaraja

[Mesky99]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

@First class   

 

Our woke captain hugged and congratulated your team and the whole of India appreciated Pak's good performance and first victory against India in the WC.

 

And what did India get in return ?  Anti-Hindu hate speeches by your cricketers Waqar, Akhtar and your ministers Fawad Chaudhary and Sheikh Rasheed.

 

This is in a sense reminiscent of a national character that refuses to change.

 

Nothing is more reminiscent of this than the Lahore bus trip my former PM Vajpayee took in 98/99 to extend a hand of peace. And what did India get in return ? Kargil 99.

 

 Look within with some honesty and you will get all the answers and perhaps feel very ashamed.

 

Your Oxford educated PM Imran  has used the choicest abuses on twitter against my PM Modi, whereas my PM has not even deemed him worthy of responding.

 

This shows the huge gulf in the character of the 2 countries. You have every right ( and perhaps duty) to feel ashamed. You deserve everything that has come your way.

 

No sympathies. 

Things were getting better atleast with cricketing ties during 07-08, India became a second home for most Pakistani players, they played in the icl, ipl and regular India tours, Wasim Akram even got his wifes treatment done in Chennai, ramiz was a regular commentator with neo and had his base in Mumbai, what we got in return was 26/11, we have sent truck loads of dossiers to Pak but they have done nothing, most pakistanis even claimed it to be inside job by the Indian government, kasabs home was located in Okara by independent journalists and later his family was relocated by isi elsewhere, reason Pak players were shunned from playing in the ipl was due to PCB's pathetic attempt to derail ipl 2009 happening in india due to player security but the same Pak players like akthar would roam around freely in India chilling out in Mumbai night clubs and occasionally visiting Haji Ali etc. Since then bcci has a taken a hard stance, bjp came in a lot later.