Countdown to India vs Pakistan WTC Final at Lords

[Lone Wolf]

53 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Indi surely will qualify for finals. 

 

Away

 

Eng : 2-1 ( hopefully we will draw last test)

BD: 2-0 ( with pace and reverse swing easy even if they give us flat pitches. They wont dare to give spin tracks to support taijul n shakib as our tridev is better than any of theirs)

 

SAf : 1-1 / 2-1 ( we should at least draw the series)

 

Home

Nz: 1-0

Srilanka : 3-0 ( we can just beat them with pace umesh siraj enough)

Aus : 3-0 , 1 Draw. With jadeja axar ashwin batting 789 dont think we will lose.Also it will be summer and no bad light to save aussies. 

 

so overall 17 tests

at least 12 wins. Win perc 71. More than enough for finals. 

While India will definitely make the finals...  Road won't be that easy. 

There will be no draws in South Africa of all places..  Three highveld venues guarantee that. 

SA away :  India wins 2-1 most likely..  Will be a tight series though. 

 

England:  Stokes is back England wins final test...  2-2...  Stokes repeats Edgbaston 2018 with the ball...  At the same venue.  One off test & zero practice is the reason we fail.  

 

India wins vs Bangladesh  2-0 away

 

India wins vs Lanka 2-0 or 1-0 in 2 test series.  One if the lankan batters thrash Ashwin & Jaddu in PCA Mohali after lanka wins the toss.  High scoring draw.  India wins in Bangalore. 

 

India vs Australia ;  Australia comes heavily prepared like 2017 after Pakistan & Lanka tours.  Ashton Agar repeats a MoTm performance in one test like SoK.   India wins series 3-1.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[neel roy]

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

 

England:  Stokes is back England wins final test...  2-2...  Stokes repeats Edgbaston 2018 with the ball...  At the same venue.  One off test & zero practice is the reason we fail.  

Probable

 

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

One if the lankan batters thrash Ashwin & Jaddu in PCA Mohali after lanka wins the toss.  High scoring draw.  India wins in Bangalore. 

Improbable as in Mohali we will have 2 of siraj bumrah umesh. Not sure other than karunaratne anybody else can face them early in morning after winning toss and batting in mohali

 

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

SA away :  India wins 2-1 most likely..  Will be a tight series though. 

possible with an asterix of who wins toss

 

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Australia comes heavily prepared like 2017 after Pakistan & Lanka tours.  Ashton Agar repeats a MoTm performance in one test like SoK.   India wins series 3-1

Plausible. But dont think Agar will have that sway.. maybe lyon and swepson. Swepson has been earmarked for the ind series.  If at all it happens it will follow the chennai route.. smith warner labuschagne scores 400 batting first winning the toss. Then india begins brightly but starc cummins causes havoc and india gets bowled out for 270 with the tail wagging and middle order scores 5,0,4 ( take your pick in terms of personnel) .. then Australia bat again and ashwin jaddu triggers a collapse but they still end up with 200/205 giving india a target of 330 on day 4 end and day 5. Lyon swepson comes into play with cummins starc reversing taking out gill pujara and india all out for 170 at tea day 5..

 

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

India wins vs Bangladesh  2-0 away

Undoubtedly yes

Edited December 5, 2021 by neel roy

[Lone Wolf]

32 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Probable

 

Improbable as in Mohali we will have 2 of siraj bumrah umesh. Not sure other than karunaratne anybody else can face them early in morning after winning toss and batting in mohali

 

possible with an asterix of who wins toss

 

Plausible. But dont think Agar will have that sway.. maybe lyon and swepson. Swepson has been earmarked for the ind series.  If at all it happens it will follow the chennai route.. smith warner labuschagne scores 400 batting first winning the toss. Then india begins brightly but starc cummins causes havoc and india gets bowled out for 270 with the tail wagging and middle order scores 5,0,4 ( take your pick in terms of personnel) .. then Australia bat again and ashwin jaddu triggers a collapse but they still end up with 200/205 giving india a target of 330 on day 4 end and day 5. Lyon swepson comes into play with cummins starc reversing taking out gill pujara and india all out for 170 at tea day 5..

 

Undoubtedly yes

I am expecting Aus will not bring a leg spinner to India over a left arm spinner as they are the ones troubling Indian bats... Leach & now Ajaz that's the general trend.  Agar is best SLAO in Australia currently & his role model is Jadeja apparently.  

Edited December 5, 2021 by Lone Wolf

[Vijy]

51 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I am expecting Aus will not bring a leg spinner to India over a left arm spinner as they are the ones troubling Indian bats... Leach & now Ajaz that's the general trend.  Agar is best SLAO in Australia currently & his role model is Jadeja apparently.  

even offies trouble India, and Lyon will be wanting his revenge after the previous series

[R!TTER]

14 hours ago, rageaddict said:

The last time Pakistan lost a Home/UAE Test to either England or Australia was 20 years back.

So? Do you know Pak's best test team record at home in the 90's through to the last tour by SA in 2007? Do you even want to know their miserable stats?

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

even offies trouble India, and Lyon will be wanting his revenge after the previous series

Offies trouble us more because of their control & especially the lengths they bowl. The last leggie to really trouble us was Benaud & he was beyond incredible at the time!

[Jay]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

While India will definitely make the finals...  Road won't be that easy. 

There will be no draws in South Africa of all places..  Three highveld venues guarantee that. 

SA away :  India wins 2-1 most likely..  Will be a tight series though. 

 

England:  Stokes is back England wins final test...  2-2...  Stokes repeats Edgbaston 2018 with the ball...  At the same venue.  One off test & zero practice is the reason we fail.  

 

India wins vs Bangladesh  2-0 away

 

India wins vs Lanka 2-0 or 1-0 in 2 test series.  One if the lankan batters thrash Ashwin & Jaddu in PCA Mohali after lanka wins the toss.  High scoring draw.  India wins in Bangalore. 

 

India vs Australia ;  Australia comes heavily prepared like 2017 after Pakistan & Lanka tours.  Ashton Agar repeats a MoTm performance in one test like SoK.   India wins series 3-1.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont fear any team but Australia is one the scares me. They bring their best vs India away. Sure we have spanked them too but they usually test us the most out of all teams 

 

I think this is what happens:

India beat Kiwis 1 0

India beats s.africa 2 -1 but can easily be 2-1 saffers

India beat bangla toygers

India beats England 1 0 in the final game

India wins a hard fought 2-1 vs australia. 

 

The series we can potentially lose is vs saffers.

[Vijy]

56 minutes ago, Jay said:

I dont fear any team but Australia is one the scares me. They bring their best vs India away. Sure we have spanked them too but they usually test us the most out of all teams 

 

I think this is what happens:

India beat Kiwis 1 0

India beats s.africa 2 -1 but can easily be 2-1 saffers

India beat bangla toygers

India beats England 1 0 in the final game

India wins a hard fought 2-1 vs australia. 

 

The series we can potentially lose is vs saffers.

it can also be 0-3 in SA with rabada, nortje, olivier, maharaj and mulder/pretorius/stuurman. note that our nos. 3-5 cannot make any runs

[AKane]

If India plays Pak - this should be our bowling attack at Lords...we MUST respect our spinners. Keep attack same as home.

 

Bumrah

Venkatesh Iyer/Vijay Shankar type (If if and only if ...... Ishant is not available)

Ashwin

Jadeja

Axar

Washington Sundar (maybe).

 

This attack will truly represent the tradition and style of Indian cricket similar to Kapil + Prabhakar + 3 spinners and better than Madan Lal + Mohinder Amarnath + Bedi,Chandra,Prasanna/Venkat.

[Singh bling]

On 12/4/2021 at 8:28 PM, Norman said:

And will be satisfying as hell to break our ICC trophy drought by beating them at Lords. 

After ODI and T20 victories Kohli will give Test victory to Pakistan. Hopefully it should never happen under Kohli

[Jay]

9 hours ago, AKane said:

If India plays Pak - this should be our bowling attack at Lords...we MUST respect our spinners. Keep attack same as home.

 

Bumrah

Venkatesh Iyer/Vijay Shankar type (If if and only if ...... Ishant is not available)

Ashwin

Jadeja

Axar

Washington Sundar (maybe).

 

This attack will truly represent the tradition and style of Indian cricket similar to Kapil + Prabhakar + 3 spinners and better than Madan Lal + Mohinder Amarnath + Bedi,Chandra,Prasanna/Venkat.

Lol what's wrong with you. In India pacers are used for a 5 over spell initially and then brought back at around 30 over Mark for reverse. Problem is spinners get too many wickets so then end up bowling a lot of overs. 

[Jay]

10 hours ago, Vijy said:

it can also be 0-3 in SA with rabada, nortje, olivier, maharaj and mulder/pretorius/stuurman. note that our nos. 3-5 cannot make any runs

Absolutely. But I feel India is too good a team to not win one game at the very least. Even with a liability like kphli. 

[Vijy]

59 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

 

Yes, everyone can see that coming to pass with our hollowed out middle order. Even playing 2 out of the three duds means we are essentially chancing on oversized contribution from all of Rohit/KLR/Pant.

as Rat's interview (reported in cricinfo) suggests, all 3 duds will be playing in SA

[cric_fan]

Would like to know how the resident pak posters rate their chances of reaching the final. 
 
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Zero chance.

[cric_fan]

Unbelievable.BD are p!ss poor.


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[Norman]

32 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

Zero chance.

 

So you think pak will lose to Aus, Eng and NZ even at home? 

[cric_fan]

 
So you think pak will lose to Aus, Eng and NZ even at home? 

High chance of losing to NZ/Aus. Eng will be rolled ovwr easily.

[Norman]

1 hour ago, cric_fan said:

High chance of losing to NZ/Aus. Eng will be rolled ovwr easily.

 

Even Bangladesh draws series against SENA countries at home. Yasir and the new spinner Sajid are more than enough to bundle them out on dry wickets. Apart from an odd hiccup, pak should win easily against them. 

 

 

Add to the fact that teams don't play practise games in Pakistan due to a cut throat itinerary will play right into your hands. 

[Jay]

6 hours ago, cric_fan said:

High chance of losing to NZ/Aus. Eng will be rolled ovwr easily.

Nhaa. U should beat them. Kiwis might trouble you. I expect revenge from pak though.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Jay

[Vilander]

On 12/5/2021 at 1:52 AM, rageaddict said:

How many matches did England and Australia win against Pakistan in UAE ? Don't remember a single match won by these teams during Pakistans exile from home in the last decade. 

 

Pakistanis will make these Poms and Aussies dance in their home conditions. 

 

The English for example are the biggest b*tchs of Pakistan at home. England may win a Test in India or even a series ( like in 2012 ) but against Pakistan they are guaranteed a loss. Not even a single Test victory.

Its difficult for touring teams to play well in Pak as they may be afraid of terror attacks or lynching on the streets.