Ashes 2021

[Fontaine]

11 hours ago, Stan AF said:

What is even the point of this series?. This is like their 11th loss in the last 12. That Melbourne pitch in 2017 were cook scored a 200 doesn't count.

 

Looking back at their history in the last 30 years or so, england must have lost atleast 25+ tests in Australia. So much hype for a useless one-sided affair.

 

What's the point?

 

To sit back and enjoy how badly other teams are struggling in Australia when India dominated there.

 

1.  England's batters are batting deep in the crease, playing inside the line and score in front of wicket because they're intimidated by Aussie bowlers (even their backups).

2.  When England bowl, pretty much all of the Aussie batters are there on the front foot batting forward of the crease, even guys in the lower order like Nesser.

 

When India was there with our bowlers they were pinning those batters in their crease, pitching the ball up beating them for pace and pinging helmets with bouncers, and when our guys, even players like Washington Sunder were batting with their front foot outside of the crease cover driving guys like Starc.

 

I'm enjoying it immensely.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Fontaine said:

 

What's the point?

 

To sit back and enjoy how badly other teams are struggling in Australia when India dominated there.

 

1.  England's batters are batting deep in the crease, playing inside the line and score in front of wicket because they're intimidated by Aussie bowlers (even their backups).

2.  When England bowl, pretty much all of the Aussie batters are there on the front foot batting forward of the crease, even guys in the lower order like Nesser.

 

When India was there with our bowlers they were pinning those batters in their crease, pitching the ball up beating them for pace and pinging helmets with bouncers, and when our guys, even players like Washington Sunder were batting with their front foot outside of the crease cover driving guys like Starc.

 

I'm enjoying it immensely.

yes, most of our bowlers had more zip than the trundler quartet of Eng in 2nd test - even natarajan. Boom, Shami, Saini, Siraj were comfortably quicker/more hostile, but even Nattu did a better job than some of these Eng pacers

[cricketfan28]

England need  livingstone.

[Jay]

3 hours ago, Vijy said:

yes, most of our bowlers had more zip than the trundler quartet of Eng in 2nd test - even natarajan. Boom, Shami, Saini, Siraj were comfortably quicker/more hostile, but even Nattu did a better job than some of these Eng pacers

Nattu had some very good ranji numbers. He is no joke. Yea he lacks a bit of pace. 130-135 but he is accurate, gets good seam off the surface. Good wrist position. 

[Fontaine]

14 hours ago, Jay said:

Nattu had some very good ranji numbers. He is no joke. Yea he lacks a bit of pace. 130-135 but he is accurate, gets good seam off the surface. Good wrist position. 

He's ok.  A bit like Saini in that both have peaked and don't have much room to improve.

[GeeGaw]

On 12/20/2021 at 12:12 AM, sage said:

England traded a decent test side for white ball supremacy 

And in the process they tied for the ODI WC and didn’t make the finals of the T20i WC. Not a good return at all 

[NameGoesHere]

I’ll give them one thing-  so far the series has lived up to its name.   

[Stan AF]

On 12/22/2021 at 10:28 PM, Fontaine said:

 

What's the point?

 

To sit back and enjoy how badly other teams are struggling in Australia when India dominated there.

 

1.  England's batters are batting deep in the crease, playing inside the line and score in front of wicket because they're intimidated by Aussie bowlers (even their backups).

2.  When England bowl, pretty much all of the Aussie batters are there on the front foot batting forward of the crease, even guys in the lower order like Nesser.

 

When India was there with our bowlers they were pinning those batters in their crease, pitching the ball up beating them for pace and pinging helmets with bouncers, and when our guys, even players like Washington Sunder were batting with their front foot outside of the crease cover driving guys like Starc.

 

I'm enjoying it immensely.

 

Obviously, I wasn't even remotely talking about our win down under. Why do you have to drag that and compare with ashes?

 

Points 1 and 2 have become stale after 10 test match losses and for a non english/aussie fan it just makes for poor viewing. Same old story getting repeated. I'm not interested in another one sided 0-5 in favor of aussies with a meek surrender from the english.

 

I need to see some fight from the english. Otherwise it is just boring.

[Stan AF]

14 catches dropped in this series and in just 2 games. I would rather watch one of those kamran akmal videos in youtube for this debacle.

[AKane]

Anybody hear anything from the loquacious Vaughan? I didn't see any tweets making headlines.

 

He seems quite.... subdued if you know what I mean.

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, AKane said:

Anybody hear anything from the loquacious Vaughan? I didn't see any tweets making headlines.

 

He seems quite.... subdued if you know what I mean.

it's a common policy for these type of people. given all the heat he received during the rafiq saga, he will keep his head down for a while.. and then he will surface again

[Stan AF]

Stats - England's new low in Australia, and Boland's lightning five-for

England record their lowest total in Australia since 1904 to cap a forgettable year

Sampath Bandarupalli28-Dec-2021

 

Sixty-eight all out! Expectedly, we found many numbers to play with there. Here's a look.

 

9 - Number of Test defeats for England in 2021, the joint-highest by a team in a calendar year. Bangladesh lost each of their nine Test matches in 2003.

 

 

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13 - Consecutive Tests for England without a win in Australia. The streak began after the innings win at the Sydney Cricket Ground in 2011. It is the longest winless streak for England in Australia, surpassing the 12-game run between 1937 and 1951.

 

 

 

82 - Australia's first-innings lead in this match, the third-lowest for any men's team while winning a Test by an innings. New Zealand failed to overcome a 46-run deficit in 1955 against England and lost by an innings and 20 runs, while West Indies beat England by an innings and 23 runs in 2009 despite only a 74-run first-innings lead.

 

 

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68 - England's total in the second innings, the lowest Ashes total in Australia since World War II. England's 68 is also their lowest total in Australia since their 61 all out in 1904, also in Melbourne.

 

27.4 - Overs batted by England during their 68 all out, their fifth shortest innings in the Ashes and their shortest innings since 1905. It is also the second-shortest innings when the team was all out in the Ashes since World War II, behind Australia's first-innings in Nottingham in 2015, which lasted only 18.3 overs.

 

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267 - Australia's first-innings total in Melbourne. Only five teams have won by an innings margin in men's Tests with a lower total since 1900. It is also the second-lowest total to result in an innings win in the Ashes, behind the 172 all out by England in 1888 in Manchester.

 

 

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19 - Balls taken by Scott Boland to complete his five-wicket haul. It is the joint-fastest in terms of balls taken in men's Tests. Ernie Toshack against India in 1947 and Stuart Broad against Australia in 2015 also bowled only 19 balls to claim the fifth wickets in their respective innings. Boland took his sixth wicket in the 21st ball he bowled, the quickest to a six-wicket haul, bettering Hugh Trumble, who had six wickets in 24 balls against England in 1904, also in Melbourne.

 

2 - Players with better bowling figures than Boland (six wickets for seven runs) while making their debut in men's Tests in Australia. Albert Trott took 8 for 43 at the Adelaide Oval in 1895, while Tom Kendall had figures of 7 for 55 in Melbourne in 1877, both against England. Boland's bowling figures are also the sixth-best on men's Test debut for Australia.

 

 

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6 for 7 - Boland's bowling figures in the second innings. Only one bowler in men's Tests has conceded fewer runs while taking six or more wickets in an innings - three by Jermaine Lawson against Bangladesh in 2002. Boland's effort goes down as the cheapest five-plus wicket haul on Test debut as well.

 

32 years and 259 days - Boland's age at the start of this match, making him the oldest pacer with a five-wicket haul on men's Test debut since 1950. Only two bowlers - both spinners - were older than Boland when they took a five-wicket haul on Test debut since 1950 - Nauman Ali (34y 111d) against South Africa in 2021 and Bilal Asif (33y 13d) against Australia in 2018.

 

1084 - Number of balls bowled in the Melbourne Test, the sixth-lowest completed Test match hosted by Australia and the shortest since the Brisbane Test against England in 1950, which lasted 1034 balls. Only seven Ashes Tests were completed in fewer balls than in Melbourne, which is also the second-shortest Ashes Test in the last 70 years, behind the 1059 balls in the Nottingham Test in 2015.

 

Sampath Bandarupalli is a statistician at ESPNcricinfo

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ashes-2021-22-stats-englands-lowest-total-in-australia-since-1904-scott-boland-joint-fastest-five-for-1294591

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, Stan AF said:

Stats - England's new low in Australia, and Boland's lightning five-for

England record their lowest total in Australia since 1904 to cap a forgettable year

Sampath Bandarupalli28-Dec-2021

 

Sixty-eight all out! Expectedly, we found many numbers to play with there. Here's a look.

 

9 - Number of Test defeats for England in 2021, the joint-highest by a team in a calendar year. Bangladesh lost each of their nine Test matches in 2003.

 

 

 ESPNcricinfo Ltd

 

 

13 - Consecutive Tests for England without a win in Australia. The streak began after the innings win at the Sydney Cricket Ground in 2011. It is the longest winless streak for England in Australia, surpassing the 12-game run between 1937 and 1951.

 

 

 

82 - Australia's first-innings lead in this match, the third-lowest for any men's team while winning a Test by an innings. New Zealand failed to overcome a 46-run deficit in 1955 against England and lost by an innings and 20 runs, while West Indies beat England by an innings and 23 runs in 2009 despite only a 74-run first-innings lead.

 

 

 ESPNcricinfo Ltd

 

 

68 - England's total in the second innings, the lowest Ashes total in Australia since World War II. England's 68 is also their lowest total in Australia since their 61 all out in 1904, also in Melbourne.

 

27.4 - Overs batted by England during their 68 all out, their fifth shortest innings in the Ashes and their shortest innings since 1905. It is also the second-shortest innings when the team was all out in the Ashes since World War II, behind Australia's first-innings in Nottingham in 2015, which lasted only 18.3 overs.

 

 ESPNcricinfo Ltd

267 - Australia's first-innings total in Melbourne. Only five teams have won by an innings margin in men's Tests with a lower total since 1900. It is also the second-lowest total to result in an innings win in the Ashes, behind the 172 all out by England in 1888 in Manchester.

 

 

 ESPNcricinfo Ltd

 

19 - Balls taken by Scott Boland to complete his five-wicket haul. It is the joint-fastest in terms of balls taken in men's Tests. Ernie Toshack against India in 1947 and Stuart Broad against Australia in 2015 also bowled only 19 balls to claim the fifth wickets in their respective innings. Boland took his sixth wicket in the 21st ball he bowled, the quickest to a six-wicket haul, bettering Hugh Trumble, who had six wickets in 24 balls against England in 1904, also in Melbourne.

 

2 - Players with better bowling figures than Boland (six wickets for seven runs) while making their debut in men's Tests in Australia. Albert Trott took 8 for 43 at the Adelaide Oval in 1895, while Tom Kendall had figures of 7 for 55 in Melbourne in 1877, both against England. Boland's bowling figures are also the sixth-best on men's Test debut for Australia.

 

 

 ESPNcricinfo Ltd

 

6 for 7 - Boland's bowling figures in the second innings. Only one bowler in men's Tests has conceded fewer runs while taking six or more wickets in an innings - three by Jermaine Lawson against Bangladesh in 2002. Boland's effort goes down as the cheapest five-plus wicket haul on Test debut as well.

 

32 years and 259 days - Boland's age at the start of this match, making him the oldest pacer with a five-wicket haul on men's Test debut since 1950. Only two bowlers - both spinners - were older than Boland when they took a five-wicket haul on Test debut since 1950 - Nauman Ali (34y 111d) against South Africa in 2021 and Bilal Asif (33y 13d) against Australia in 2018.

 

1084 - Number of balls bowled in the Melbourne Test, the sixth-lowest completed Test match hosted by Australia and the shortest since the Brisbane Test against England in 1950, which lasted 1034 balls. Only seven Ashes Tests were completed in fewer balls than in Melbourne, which is also the second-shortest Ashes Test in the last 70 years, behind the 1059 balls in the Nottingham Test in 2015.

 

Sampath Bandarupalli is a statistician at ESPNcricinfo

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ashes-2021-22-stats-englands-lowest-total-in-australia-since-1904-scott-boland-joint-fastest-five-for-1294591

lots of ignominious stats in there for eng.