express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Jay said: i think him and siraj had they played vs saffers, we would have won the series. no joke. legit serious. Most probably yes. Even Bumrah would look more dangerous when bowling with a bouncier pacer than him ( Prasidh ) and a skiddier pacer than him ( Shami / Siraj ). This combo is the key. The WI used Marshall .. Short skiddy Garner .. Very tall and very bouncy Holding .. Inbetween Roberts / Daniel / Davis .. Inbetween
Jay Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: Most probably yes. Even Bumrah would look more dangerous when bowling with a bouncier pacer than him ( Prasidh ) and a skiddier pacer than him ( Shami / Siraj ). This combo is the key. The WI used Marshall .. Short skiddy Garner .. Very tall and very bouncy Holding .. Inbetween Roberts / Daniel / Davis .. Inbetween exactly. but what we need in modern era is this: at 8 skilful AR who can bowl 130-135 and has power hitting ability. at 9 short skiddy who can hold and swing the bat at 135-145 at 10 proper bounce based bowler who can also swing a bit 130-140 taller bowler can get away with 4 - 5 k less at 11 fast or fast medium premier bowler who has pace and swing plus bounce. 137-145 and ability to crank it up from 140-150 when needed. so its ideally in the future 8) hangerakar/mavi or thakur for now backup (chahar) 9) siraj backup (tyagi) 10)prasidh (no current replacement avalaible) 11) bumrah backup (shami, we need a new one here) Edited January 23, 2022 by Jay
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay said: exactly. but what we need in modern era is this: at 8 skilful AR who can bowl 130-135 and has power hitting ability. at 9 short skiddy who can hold and swing the bat at 135-145 at 10 proper bounce based bowler who can also swing a bit 130-140 taller bowler can get away with 4 - 5 k less at 11 fast or fast medium premier bowler who has pace and swing plus bounce. 137-145 and ability to crank it up from 140-150 when needed. so its ideally in the future 8) hangerakar/mavi or thakur for now backup (chahar) 9) siraj backup (tyagi) 10)prasidh (no current replacement avalaible) 11) bumrah backup (shami, we need a new one here) 8. Hangargekar ( when ready ) / Shardul ( for now ) 9. Bumrah /:Umran ( when ready / rotate ) 10. Siraj / Shami ( rotate ) 11. Prasidh / Tyagi ( when ready / rotate ) Edited January 23, 2022 by express bowling Vijy and Jay 2
maniac Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Chahar is a must in LOIs. Watch the game not the speed guns. Fantastic utility cricketer and has a higher upside than all the other filth we have tried in allrounder slots Frustrated 1
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, maniac said: Chahar is a must in LOIs. Watch the game not the speed guns. Fantastic utility cricketer and has a higher upside than all the other filth we have tried in allrounder slots It's ok if he is restricted to the all-rounder's slots at 7 or 8. Problem is ... as we saw against NZ ... Bhuvi, Deepak and Harshal played together. P.S - Having watched the match, Deepak's bowling was below par except the first 2 overs. And he could not be trusted in the slog overs either. Maybe he should aim for the batting all-rounder's slot. P.P.S - This thread is not for discussing utility cricketers. Edited January 23, 2022 by express bowling rollingstoned 1
Vijy Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: 8. Hangargekar ( when ready ) / Shardul ( for now ) 9. Bumrah /:Umran ( when ready / rotate ) 10. Siraj / Shami ( rotate ) 11. Prasidh / Tyagi ( when ready / rotate ) is this for tests for ODIs? I would not trust this lineup in ODIs. batting is too flimsy, given that one also needs a spinner somewhere in the mix.
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Vijy said: is this for tests for ODIs? I would not trust this lineup in ODIs. batting is too flimsy, given that one also needs a spinner somewhere in the mix. This line-up is for tests only, that too outside Asia. We rarely play 4 pacers in ODIs. Edited January 23, 2022 by express bowling Vijy 1
rollingstoned Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Liked what i saw from Prasidh and he showed glimpses of how useful he might have been if he had played in the test series when he hit the splice of the bat on many occasions disturbing the batsman's timing. He looked sharper against England last year though and I'm not a fan of him spamming those slower balls which look like they need some work. Bouncers and yorkers may be a better default death option. express bowling and Vijy 1 1
Vijy Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: This line-up is for tests only, that too outside Asia. We rarely play 4 pacers in ODIs. Ok, that makes a lot of sense. I would not have gone with this team in ODIs. express bowling 1
Vijy Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, rollingstoned said: Liked what i saw from Prasidh and he showed glimpses of how useful he might have been if he had played in the test series when he hit the splice of the bat on many occasions disturbing the batsman's timing. He looked sharper against England last year though and I'm not a fan of him spamming those slower balls which look like they need some work. Bouncers and yorkers may be a better default death option. yep, both he and siraj were brought into the fold too late. siraj lost 2 good yrs of his test career, and the same has happened to prasidh too. next, it will happen to tyagi and Hangu. Amarnath was right long ago when he called the selectors a bunch of clowns. rollingstoned and express bowling 1 1
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Vijy said: yep, both he and siraj were brought into the fold too late. siraj lost 2 good yrs of his test career, and the same has happened to prasidh too. next, it will happen to tyagi and Hangu. Amarnath was right long ago when he called the selectors a bunch of clowns. To be fair to the selectors, they have often included Siraj and Prasidh in the squads ... but all the TMs have ignored them for Ishant and Umesh and Bhuvi, when it came to playing 11 selections. Vijy and rollingstoned 1 1
Lord Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Prasidh did well today,should have got new ball. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted February 9, 2022 Author Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Prasidh dismissed 2 batsmen with steep bounce in the 1st ODIs, And Holder was a well set batter. He is s good candidate for a bounce bowler ( he is the bounciest well known pacer in India now ) Bowled a bit below his full pace though. Would be happy if he starts bowling at his full pace with quickest balls above 90 mph. Edited February 9, 2022 by express bowling Mosher and Suhaan 2
rkt.india Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, express bowling said: Prasidh dismissed 2 set batsmen with steep bounce in the 1st ODIs. He is s good candidate for a bounce bowler ( he is the bounciest well known pacer in India now ) Bowled a bit below his full pace though. Would be happy if he starts bowling at his full pace with quickest balls above 90 mph. LOI fast bowling is all about bounce bowling these days. Seam and swing are miniscule. Bowling hard lengths, getting bounce is the key along with Yorkers as surprise delivery. Suhaan and Lord 2
express bowling Posted February 9, 2022 Author Posted February 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, rkt.india said: LOI fast bowling is all about bounce bowling these days. Seam and swing are miniscule. Bowling hard lengths, getting bounce is the key along with Yorkers as surprise Steep bounce ( at sharp pace and with accuracy ) was always a potent weapon in ODIs. Garner and Ambrose are good examples. Mosher 1
Jay Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Steep bounce ( at sharp pace and with accuracy ) was always a potent weapon in ODIs. Garner and Ambrose are good examples. Potent In tests on seaming wickets as well. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted February 9, 2022 Author Posted February 9, 2022 Fiery opening spell by Prasidh 2 wickets with bounce again. The first one bounced very steeply and got the nick. The 2nd ball was s great channel ball which hit the edge of the splice. Mosher 1
express bowling Posted February 9, 2022 Author Posted February 9, 2022 Prasidh ( with his steep bounce at pace ) should play most test matches and ODIs for India from now. And he has genuine wicket taking ability. Mosher 1
Lord Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Prasidh ( with his steep bounce at pace ) should play most test matches and ODIs for India from now. And he has genuine wicket taking ability. more suited for Tests as of now.In LOIs death bowling is crucial part for specialist pacer.He isnt there yet imo. Still Good. Tyagi,Umran and Mavi seem better option for LOIs
rkt.india Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord said: more suited for Tests as of now.In LOIs death bowling is crucial part for specialist pacer.He isnt there yet imo. Still Good. Tyagi,Umran and Mavi seem better option for LOIs You don't need him to bowl at death. Bumrah and Siraj can do that. Even he isn't that bad at death express bowling 1
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