World T20 match ups for India

[vvvslaxman]

India plays SA and Pakistan in the group stage.  So India has to focus specifically on the weakness of these two teams not "Australian conditions" which means nothing.

 

Wristies not surprisingly have a decent success against Pakistan.  Shamsi, Hasaranga, Adil Rashid.  Our own Kuldeep has tasted  If you look at SA  knuckle ball bowlers like Bravo, MccOy, Harshal and leggies have done well against them.  Our bowling combination has revolve around this. . One fact is pace bowelrs have travelled against SA. 

 

Markwood 11.78 ER

Starc 8.59

Joffra ARcher 8.62

Shaheen 8.30

Jordan 9.44

Haris Rauf  10.00

Mohammad Husnain 12.5

Saini 9.83

 

I know we love pace. But South Africans seem to be more comfortable against raw pace. 

 

 

Last 3 years wicket pattern against Pakistan

 

 

 

Last 3 years wicket pattern against SA

 

[gattaca]

The team is fixed already bar injuries. Bumrah, Bhuvi, shami , Pandya and harshal will be the bowlers. 

[Chakdephatte]

This thread deserved more participation. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

• Yes SA dont have a single player who is weak against genuine pace, last guy whom u cud bother with it was duminy 
• England batsman also dont , apart from moeen ali but againt if u dont get it right he ll murder you
• Australian- Stonis, Maxi can be troubled against hard length but we have none to execute it and if u dnt get it right he ll murder u 
• NZ- Philip-Neesham-Santner can be bothered by pace but they can be bothered by anything , they arent some great batsman or match winners 

 

Only team u can trouble against Genuine pace is WI but if you dont get it right, they ll .....................u know 

 

In recent times even scotland smashed lockie for almost 8 RPO in ODI and Umran was smashed by Ireland 

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 7/13/2022 at 12:59 PM, vvvslaxman said:

If you look at SA  knuckle ball bowlers like Bravo, MccOy, Harshal and leggies have done well against them. 

by the none of them bowl much of knuckle balls

Slower one are different kinds 

• Off cutter
• Leg cutter- bhuvi uses it 
• Back of a hand slower one - mccoy uses it 
• split finger 
• Loopy dipping one where a lot revs are put - Bravo, Sams, Harshal does that .................this one is hardest . People talk how they need pitches, no they dont .........dip happens in Air 
• Knuckle ball- Bhuvi uses it 

I find it funny how everyone puts all of them in same category . This is why slower one generates so many wkts becoz among slower one only their is so much variety that its hard to pick

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Will make a thread on slower one if i get time soon, how misunderstood this art is and how its beyond pitches

People saying it wont work in Australia, ill show evidence from Australia only 

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 7/13/2022 at 12:59 PM, vvvslaxman said:

Markwood 11.78 ER

Starc 8.59

Joffra ARcher 8.62

Shaheen 8.30

Jordan 9.44

Haris Rauf  10.00

Mohammad Husnain 12.5

Saini 9.83

 

I know we love pace. But South Africans seem to be more comfortable against raw pace. 

 

SA batsman growup on pace and ultimately it comes down to length if you dont get it right Pace is batsman best frend 

Guys like De kock, Markram, RVD are technically sound players too so its not easy to get past them. Also this list has only few skilled bowlers like Shaheen, Archer, Starc rest can be easily taken down and has been easily taken down

 

• Saini, Mark wood have pace but skill set isnt very vast 
• Rauf biggest strength is high pace hard length- SA dont have a problem against it ....they are strong on backfoot
• Jordon length are off 80% of times so obv maar khayega 
• Hasnain i havent seen enough but watever i have he is inexperienced and lacks control 

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Babar has 3 problems- SLA , Googly, inswing

 

Babar Azam -

Average in SENA countries in Tests

v Inswing - 21.8 v

Outswing - 60.7

 

Although its an old data but weakness is still their ...................so bhuvi bhuvi bhuvi 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

De kock biggest problem - Off spin 

 

In t20i

avg 20 

S/r - 111 

[coffee_rules]

On 7/13/2022 at 3:01 PM, gattaca said:

The team is fixed already bar injuries. Bumrah, Bhuvi, shami , Pandya and harshal will be the bowlers. 

Shami? In T20 hasn’t played since the last World Cup disaster 

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 7/13/2022 at 3:01 PM, gattaca said:

The team is fixed already bar injuries. Bumrah, Bhuvi, shami , Pandya and harshal will be the bowlers. 

shami isnt even on radar 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

 

 

 

 

this is the stat of pacers in sena vs sa,bravo is down in the dumps.

 

bhuvi avg is 9 

eco is 6.09

3 match  7 wkts

 

GOLD 

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 7/13/2022 at 12:59 PM, vvvslaxman said:

 

Last 3 years wicket pattern against SA

 

 

9 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

 

 

 

 

this is the stat of pacers in sena vs sa,bravo is down in the dumps.

 

both have answered one thing- Bhuvi is GOLD

[Lord]

our bowling good enough and varied

 

if batting holds up we'll do well

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

bhuvi bowls both off and leg cutter ,in 2018 it was the knuckle ball and also swings the new ball both ways ....how about harshal? ,all he bowls is that offcutter,if it doesnt drop then good luck.

 

Bhuvi also seams the ball and has great control 

 

harshal has more of loopy dipping  slower one then just off cutter 

if it doesnt land ?? Hmmm isnt that case with every ball

If yorker doesnt land rights its either a slot ball or full toss..........then good luck 

 

Its LOI margin of error is less with everything 

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[zen]

On field performance depends on the form of the players, their execution, and the form of various oppositions. 

 

A discussion on "form" is more meaningful than most match up exercises.  

[Lord]

12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Bhuvi also seams the ball and has great control 

 

harshal has more of loopy dipping  slower one then just off cutter 

if it doesnt land ?? Hmmm isnt that case with every ball

If yorker doesnt land rights its either a slot ball or full toss..........then good luck 

 

Its LOI margin of error is less with everything 

 

 

I guess he meant Harshal doesnt have variation even in slower ball. One trick pony.

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

 

I guess he meant Harshal doesnt have variation even in slower ball. One trick pony.

he has variation in off cutter only - one is loopy one the other is normal one

plus variation is with length also , angles 

His loopy one seems like one variation but its very very hard to pick . Also his yorker success rate is quite high .............for reg bumrah was 42 and nattu 44 

 

 

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he has variation in off cutter only - one is loopy one the other is normal one

plus variation is with length also , angles 

His loopy one seems like one variation but its very very hard to pick . Also his yorker success rate is quite high .............for reg bumrah was 42 and nattu 44 

 

 

 

This is IPL 2021 data where he was in form of his life. No doubt great then.

 

Of late he is not bowling much yorkers. Will be interesting if there is IPL 2022 similar graph.

[Chakdephatte]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he has variation in off cutter only - one is loopy one the other is normal one

plus variation is with length also , angles 

His loopy one seems like one variation but its very very hard to pick . Also his yorker success rate is quite high .............for reg bumrah was 42 and nattu 44 

 

 

 

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