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World T20 match ups for India

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India plays SA and Pakistan in the group stage.  So India has to focus specifically on the weakness of these two teams not "Australian conditions" which means nothing.

 

Wristies not surprisingly have a decent success against Pakistan.  Shamsi, Hasaranga, Adil Rashid.  Our own Kuldeep has tasted  If you look at SA  knuckle ball bowlers like Bravo, MccOy, Harshal and leggies have done well against them.  Our bowling combination has revolve around this. . One fact is pace bowelrs have travelled against SA. 

 

Markwood 11.78 ER

Starc 8.59

Joffra ARcher 8.62

Shaheen 8.30

Jordan 9.44

Haris Rauf  10.00

Mohammad Husnain 12.5

Saini 9.83

 

I know we love pace. But South Africans seem to be more comfortable against raw pace. 

 

 

Last 3 years wicket pattern against Pakistan

 

 

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Last 3 years wicket pattern against SA

 

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  • Yes SA dont have a single player who is weak against genuine pace, last guy whom u cud bother with it was duminy 
  • England batsman also dont , apart from moeen ali but againt if u dont get it right he ll murder you
  • Australian- Stonis, Maxi can be troubled against hard length but we have none to execute it and if u dnt get it right he ll murder u 
  • NZ- Philip-Neesham-Santner can be bothered by pace but they can be bothered by anything , they arent some great batsman or match winners 

 

Only team u can trouble against Genuine pace is WI but if you dont get it right, they ll .....................u know 

 

In recent times even scotland smashed lockie for almost 8 RPO in ODI and Umran was smashed by Ireland 

 

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On 7/13/2022 at 12:59 PM, vvvslaxman said:

If you look at SA  knuckle ball bowlers like Bravo, MccOy, Harshal and leggies have done well against them. 

by the none of them bowl much of knuckle balls

Slower one are different kinds 

  • Off cutter
  • Leg cutter- bhuvi uses it 
  • Back of a hand slower one - mccoy uses it 
  • split finger 
  • Loopy dipping one where a lot revs are put - Bravo, Sams, Harshal does that .................this one is hardest . People talk how they need pitches, no they dont .........dip happens in Air 
  • Knuckle ball- Bhuvi uses it 

I find it funny how everyone puts all of them in same category . This is why slower one generates so many wkts becoz among slower one only their is so much variety that its hard to pick

 

 

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On 7/13/2022 at 12:59 PM, vvvslaxman said:

Markwood 11.78 ER

Starc 8.59

Joffra ARcher 8.62

Shaheen 8.30

Jordan 9.44

Haris Rauf  10.00

Mohammad Husnain 12.5

Saini 9.83

 

I know we love pace. But South Africans seem to be more comfortable against raw pace. 

 

SA batsman growup on pace and ultimately it comes down to length if you dont get it right Pace is batsman best frend 

Guys like De kock, Markram, RVD are technically sound players too so its not easy to get past them. Also this list has only few skilled bowlers like Shaheen, Archer, Starc rest can be easily taken down and has been easily taken down

 

  • Saini, Mark wood have pace but skill set isnt very vast 
  • Rauf biggest strength is high pace hard length- SA dont have a problem against it ....they are strong on backfoot
  • Jordon length are off 80% of times so obv maar khayega 
  • Hasnain i havent seen enough but watever i have he is inexperienced and lacks control 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

bhuvi bowls both off and leg cutter ,in 2018 it was the knuckle ball and also swings the new ball both ways ....how about harshal? ,all he bowls is that offcutter,if it doesnt drop then good luck.

 

Bhuvi also seams the ball and has great control 

 

harshal has more of loopy dipping  slower one then just off cutter 

if it doesnt land ?? Hmmm isnt that case with every ball

If yorker doesnt land rights its either a slot ball or full toss..........then good luck 

 

Its LOI margin of error is less with everything 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Bhuvi also seams the ball and has great control 

 

harshal has more of loopy dipping  slower one then just off cutter 

if it doesnt land ?? Hmmm isnt that case with every ball

If yorker doesnt land rights its either a slot ball or full toss..........then good luck 

 

Its LOI margin of error is less with everything 

 

 

I guess he meant Harshal doesnt have variation even in slower ball. One trick pony.

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9 hours ago, Lord said:

 

I guess he meant Harshal doesnt have variation even in slower ball. One trick pony.

he has variation in off cutter only - one is loopy one the other is normal one

plus variation is with length also , angles 

His loopy one seems like one variation but its very very hard to pick . Also his yorker success rate is quite high .............for reg bumrah was 42 and nattu 44 

 

 

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