Case for both Chahal and Bishnoi?

[vvvslaxman]

If Deepak Chahar comes back (with decent form) is there a case for 2 leggies? Both are duds with bat in addition to Bhuvi/Bumrah being useless in T20 with bat. So will be left with 7 batsmen to do whatever damage.  Other option is "allrounders" Axar and Jadeja. Axar probably can play an innings like that every 10 innings or so. Jaddu can never.    

 

Bhuvi/Bumrah/Arshdeep/Jadeja  -> Bhuvi/Bumrah/Chahar/Bishnoi

[singhvivek141]

It seems very niche scenario to me personally.
Dropping Jadeja is difficult unless Kohli finds his form, else, that would put too much expectations on Deepak Chahar with the bat (who is still a bowler with batting ability).
 

[Ankit_sharma03]

It will be bishnoi vs Ashwin vs Kuldeep- my choice Ashwin 

 

• Can bowl in PP
• Immense experience
• Variety in bowling
• Can bat 
• Has experience of Australian conditions
• Loves left handers 
• HE can allow us to sit even chahal on bench in one game or play various kind of combination 
• He is hungry to prove his white ball credentials
• Kind of character u need in Wc  

[Jay]

55 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

It will be bishnoi vs Ashwin vs Kuldeep- my choice Ashwin 

 

• Can bowl in PP
• Immense experience
• Variety in bowling
• Can bat 
• Has experience of Australian conditions
• Loves left handers 
• HE can allow us to sit even chahal on bench in one game or play various kind of combination 
• He is hungry to prove his white ball credentials
• Kind of character u need in Wc  

Ash in t20? If he is hungry, he can sit at saravan bhavan and eat his oothapam. We need quality wrist spin. Not finger spinners for loi. 

[vvvslaxman]

12 minutes ago, Jay said:

Ash in t20? If he is hungry, he can sit at saravan bhavan and eat his oothapam. We need quality wrist spin. Not finger spinners for loi. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

It seems very niche scenario to me personally.
Dropping Jadeja is difficult unless Kohli finds his form, else, that would put too much expectations on Deepak Chahar with the bat (who is still a bowler with batting ability).
 

 

Yes. There are certain teams against which you can use them both much like KulCha. I still can't believe Kuldeep did not have enough game time after a very good IPL in a long time.

[singhvivek141]

22 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Yes. There are certain teams against which you can use them both much like KulCha. I still can't believe Kuldeep did not have enough game time after a very good IPL in a long time.

It's really unfortunate, but Kuldeep has no one but himself to blame.
 

Both Chahal and Jadeja leapfrogged him in the race with the backing from management, and to be fair Bishnoi hasn't done anything wrong in the sporadic chances that he has got. Kuldeep need to wait for his chances.

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Jay said:

Ash in t20? If he is hungry, he can sit at saravan bhavan and eat his oothapam. We need quality wrist spin. Not finger spinners for loi. 

yea why not ash in t20 ??

 

Matches - 7 Wickets - 12  Economy Rate - 5.6 Bowling Average - 13

 

thats his numbers post comeback, what wrong with him ?? That Eco is gold 

He offers extra value 

 

And u have a wrist spinner ............a good bowler is a good bowler 

[Vk1]

Its an ideal case scenario.. this can work out if Bishnoi can showcase his hitting abilities..

[Lord]

even one seems too much in Aus.Let alone both of them.

[HamHindustani]

Can't hold a bat either of them. 

[Serpico]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

even one seems too much in Aus.Let alone both of them.

Australia plays both zampa and agar. With their big boundaries, attacking spinners will be riskier and put teams on backfoot

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Serpico said:

Australia plays both zampa and agar. With their big boundaries, attacking spinners will be riskier and put teams on backfoot

 

they can afford to. Their pacers and Agar can bat. With us our top pacers can't bat and if we have two spinners who can't either,will be very long tail.

 

Spinners still will be support bowlers to pacers in Aus. So we need to pick our top 3 pacers and hope pressure built by them helps whoever spinner plays.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

they can afford to. Their pacers and Agar can bat. With us our top pacers can't bat and if we have two spinners who can't either,will be very long tail.

 

Spinners still will be support bowlers to pacers in Aus. So we need to pick our top 3 pacers and hope pressure built by them helps whoever spinner plays.

 

 

Agar is a tailender. A tailender with 9 T20 sixes.

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 hours ago, Lord said:

even one seems too much in Aus.Let alone both of them.

bigger grounds and bounce - spinners will be in play 

Its t20, anything at which batsman have to create pace their will be wkts

[neel roy]

8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

It will be bishnoi vs Ashwin vs Kuldeep- my choice Ashwin 

 

• Can bowl in PP
• Immense experience
• Variety in bowling
• Can bat 
• Has experience of Australian conditions
• Loves left handers 
• HE can allow us to sit even chahal on bench in one game or play various kind of combination 
• He is hungry to prove his white ball credentials
• Kind of character u need in Wc  

only issue with Ashwin is his fielding will be a major disadvantage in australian long boundaries.. to have chahal ashwin in deep mid wicket or mid on every 2 will be 3.. on flip side Dimensions of boundaries are much bigger so he cant be easily tonked for sixes other than in Adelaide 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, neel roy said:

only issue with Ashwin is his fielding will be a major disadvantage in australian long boundaries.. to have chahal ashwin in deep mid wicket or mid on every 2 will be 3.. on flip side Dimensions of boundaries are much bigger so he cant be easily tonked for sixes other than in Adelaide 

everyone has issues 

Chahal fielding

Jadeja everything else then fielding 

 

TBH our fielding is already compromised 

[neel roy]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

everyone has issues 

Chahal fielding

Jadeja everything else then fielding 

 

TBH our fielding is already compromised 

Jadeja won us 2 t20s in SENA single handedly with his batting.. aus and england when india were 5 down for nothing.. so cant discount his batting.. bowling.. he is good for two overs when the opponent has just losta wicket..  so jadeja will be picked as 9 10 11 for us is Bhuvi Bumrah Chahal. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, neel roy said:

Jadeja won us 2 t20s in SENA single handedly with his batting.. aus and england when india were 5 down for nothing.. so cant discount his batting.. bowling.. he is good for two overs when the opponent has just losta wicket..  so jadeja will be picked as 9 10 11 for us is Bhuvi Bumrah Chahal. 

his 2 compares to a decade of Fck ups thats why no one trust him till date. Even if he plays 2 good innings their wud be some 20 trash around it 

One reason is when he has overs in hands he does well but at 7 that cant work most days 

 

Yea Jaddu will be picked i have given up on it 

And yea Bhuvi-Bumrah-Chahal are locked and rightly so as they are our best bowlers 

[Jay]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yea why not ash in t20 ??

 

Matches - 7 Wickets - 12  Economy Rate - 5.6 Bowling Average - 13

 

thats his numbers post comeback, what wrong with him ?? That Eco is gold 

He offers extra value 

 

And u have a wrist spinner ............a good bowler is a good bowler 

Because finger spinners in Australia get carted around. Wristies are potent.