What is this obsession with Chahal. He is NOT international class - Chahal never deserved to play for India.

[Adamant]

34 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Rohit clearly mentioned he wanted someone who can bat a bit. Chahal brings absolutely nothing else to the table. The day he gets hit his usefulness ends. He generally misfields and doesn' go for catches. He doesn't bat. Can't bowl with wet ball.

Read my post again, stats wise he has been the best spinner since 2015 in ODIs while this thread says that he is not international class which is as clueless as it gets, I know about his lack of utility but he has had a good career and can be proud of it.

[R!TTER]

Right, clearly taking the piss.

 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	Ave	Econ	SR	4	5
Kuldeep Yadav (IND)	2017-2023	64	62	540.5	13	2909	112	6/25	25.97	5.37	28.9	6	2
YS Chahal (IND)	2017-2023	57	54	492.2	10	2655	90	6/42	29.50	5.39	32.8	3	2
A Zampa (AUS)	2016-2023	73	73	651.2	9	3624	118	5/35	30.71	5.56	33.1	8	1
Imran Tahir (SA)	2016-2019	50	49	438.0	14	2124	66	4/27	32.18	4.84	39.8	1	0
AU Rashid (ENG)	2016-2023	81	79	694.3	3	3938	122	4/36	32.27	5.67	34.1	6	0
T Shamsi (SA)	2016-2023	37	35	301.3	6	1689	50	5/49	33.78	5.60	36.1	2	1
Shadab Khan (PAK)	2017-2023	44	43	368.2	7	1995	50	4/38	39.90	5.41	44.2	1	0
MJ Santner (NZ)	2016-2023	75	71	584.2	12	2785	66	3/40	42.19	4.76	53.1	0	0
MM Ali (ENG)	2016-2023	80	75	577.4	9	3107	67	4/46	46.37	5.37	51.7	2	0

[vvvslaxman]

Chahal in the last 3 yeasr has poor numbers.  He did have a good phase where he and Kuldeep worked well in Tandem. But post pandemic his numbers were seriously piss poor

 

Sundar 31.18

Chahal 38.55

Axar 49.00

Jadeja 51.72

 

Except other three can bat, Jaddu can field well. In order to be part of XI purely as a batsman with zero skills in other areas he has to be extraordinary like Shane warne who incidentally can hold a bat.

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, Adamant said:

Let me clarify first that he is rightly dropped and Kuldeep is defo the right choice.

Now lets see some stats

Chahal averages 27 at eco of 5.27 and str rate of 30. 5w 2 times

Lets see the corresponding stats for other supposedly GREAT spinners who according to ICFERS are on a different level to him :

GOAT Adil Rashid
Avg 32.4 eco 5.67 str rate 34.3 5w 2 times

The modern great Adam Zampa
Avg 29.3 eco 5.53 str rate 31.5. 5w 1 time

Legend Shadab Khan
Avg32, eco 5.17 str rate 38. 5w 0 times


Tabraiz Shamsi
Avg 32.5 str rate 35.5 eco 5.50. 5w 1 time

Ish Sodhi
Avg 36 str rate 39 eco 5.5


Okay but these are just regular loi stats, Chahal is useless in important tourneys and matches

World cup 2019 stats (which was probably the worst world cup for spinners)

Chahal avg 36 eco 5.97 
GOAT Adil Rashid avg 48 eco 5.6
The modern great Adam Zampa avg 47 eco 7.11
Prodigy Rashid Khan avg 48 eco 5.7
Shadab avg 36 eco 5.5

Moeen ali avg 46 eco 5.4


Chahal is nowhere near being a great odi bowler or even a shoo - in our lineup but people are unnecessary hating on him bcoz of his off-field antics.

If Chahal had a horrible ODI career then there is no other spinner in the world (since 2015) who had a good odi career, bcoz Chahal not only has better overall stats than them but also has better performances in the major event.

The hate is unnecessary and he has had a fine career, infact I will go on to say that he had a better ODI career than any other spinner since 2015.
Also, people may find it annoying and maybe even funny but Chahal is up there amongst the top three ODI spinners India has produced, I challenge all to refute this in any way possible (using stats and not hypothtetical scenarios)

 

Good post in some ways. Indians, both fans and TM, overrate spinners way too much and end up picking too many in a squad. 

 

It's a mindset issue. We desperately want to be a pace heavy nation but keep picking even finger spinners for their bowling in this day and age for God knows what reason. 

 

And the only time we actually produce a decent spinner (relative to global standards), we trash him. 

 

The thing is, a team only needs 1 wrist spinner and Kuldeep is better right now. 

 

Against Top 6 sides in this World Cup cycle,

 

Zampa averages 23

Kuldeep 31

Chahal 35

Adil Rashid - 37

Shamsi -33.4

 

So, Chahal has been there and thereabouts  even against top sides though he has declined from before

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Realist]

Chahal no longer getting a BCCI central contract. Game over for the 34 year old?

[vvvslaxman]

He will now focus on beating Mgnus Carlsen 

[Norman]

Still can't understand how this midget ended up playing as much international cricket as he did. That too most of the times over Kuldeep..

 

But then again, he's still somewhat better in one department than the likes of Mukesh, Bharath etc so I guess that checks out with our rudderless TM.

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, Norman said:

Still can't understand how this midget ended up playing as much international cricket as he did. That too most of the times over Kuldeep..

 

But then again, he's still somewhat better in one department than the likes of Mukesh, Bharath etc so I guess that checks out with our rudderless TM.

They needed someone to host Chahal TV

[vvvslaxman]

So @velu your twitter handle is Mahiyank?