Lyon, the best spinner of his generation!

[zen]

4 hours ago, Stan AF said:

 

I'd have expelled this serial liar long ago.

Not interested … You don’t belong on social media. People like you exist to comment on people who don’t even care you exist. 
 

 

[putrevus]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

but they dont assist spinners.

Who said Australian pitches don't assist spinners.

[Stan AF]

17 minutes ago, zen said:

Not interested … You don’t belong on social media. People like you exist to comment on people who don’t even care you exist. 
 

 

And yet you quote my post.

 

You are a serial liar and somebody needs to keep calling on your lies,  bullshit and immoral agenda in this forum.

 

For somebody who dislikes so many Indian players you live in this forum 24/7. You have a serious case of mental illness. Get help man.

[Stan AF]

Lyon is not the best spinner of this generation. There it is case closed.

[zen]

1 minute ago, Stan AF said:

And yet you quote my post.

 

You are a serial liar and somebody needs to keep calling on your lies,  bullshit and immoral agenda in this forum.

 

For somebody who dislikes so many Indian players you live in this forum 24/7. You have a serious case of mental illness. Get help man.

 

Not interested.

 

I quoted to point out a loser trying to take the opportunity to take unnecessary potshots. I know your background and also know that for you have tried to even copy me. 

 

For e.g. after I started threads where India won, you tried to do that did not happen. Then you tried to start a thread for MI to see if people see you as its face but it failed. 

 

You are not zen. Thousands of folks post here but they are not zen. Attacking zen does not make you like zen or his equivalent. 

 

That Lyon is the best spinner of his generation is taken as agenda speaks about the likes of you not me. I am going to continue to celebrate Lyon's success while losers like you will do what they are best at - whine  

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

ALl i see is a self-obsessed "me'"me" joker having petty pleasure with zero cricket analytic skills. Only skill you see is cutting and pasting cricinfo stats selectively without context and worshipping whites

[Stan AF]

As expected self absorbed narcissistic tendencies.

 

Be my guest and continue to expose yourself man. 

[zen]

7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

ALl i see is a self-obsessed "me'"me" joker having petty pleasure with zero cricket analytic skills. Only skill you see is cutting and pasting cricinfo stats selectively without context and worshipping whites

 

Better to be self-obsessed than obsessed with noobs like you ... run away now (this is above your pay grade) unless you need a reason to cry!

Edited June 20, 2023 by zen

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

As expected self absorbed narcissistic tendencies.

 

Be my guest and continue to expose yourself man. 

 

No one expects anything from you apart from hate and jealousy. 

 

Remember it is you who came here to take potshots. I don't even rate you to be good enough to be a guest. 

[Stan AF]

7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

ALl i see is a self-obsessed "me'"me" joker having petty pleasure with zero cricket analytic skills. Only skill you see is cutting and pasting cricinfo stats selectively without context and worshipping whites

Hope he gets paid for all this nonsense he spouts here

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Hope he gets paid for all this nonsense he spouts here

 

Kadathal sagotararkal will pay lol

[zen]

Btw, talking about Ind spinners in SENA:

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Balls	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
EAS Prasanna	1967-1978	20	34	5771	2336	78	8/76	11/140	29.94	2.42	73.9	5	1
BS Bedi	1967-1979	25	42	7076	2789	90	6/127	10/194	30.98	2.36	78.6	5	1
BS Chandrasekhar	1967-1979	19	32	4994	2225	71	6/38	12/104	31.33	2.67	70.3	6	1
A Kumble	1990-2008	35	67	11317	5224	141	8/141	12/279	37.04	2.76	80.2	5	1
RA Jadeja	2013-2023	20	35	4355	1936	52	6/138	7/258	37.23	2.66	83.7	1	0
R Ashwin	2011-2022	24	42	5835	2754	70	4/55	7/121	39.34	2.83	83.3	0	0
Harbhajan Singh	1998-2011	19	34	4796	2476	62	7/120	7/102	39.93	3.09	77.3	3	0

 

Chandra has 6 5-er in 32 innings (like 1/6) 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by zen

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

Mostly due to uncovered damp pitches back in the day.

not always because of that, but partly because of it too

[Vijy]

26 minutes ago, zen said:

Btw, talking about Ind spinners in SENA:

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Balls	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
EAS Prasanna	1967-1978	20	34	5771	2336	78	8/76	11/140	29.94	2.42	73.9	5	1
BS Bedi	1967-1979	25	42	7076	2789	90	6/127	10/194	30.98	2.36	78.6	5	1
BS Chandrasekhar	1967-1979	19	32	4994	2225	71	6/38	12/104	31.33	2.67	70.3	6	1
A Kumble	1990-2008	35	67	11317	5224	141	8/141	12/279	37.04	2.76	80.2	5	1
RA Jadeja	2013-2023	20	35	4355	1936	52	6/138	7/258	37.23	2.66	83.7	1	0
R Ashwin	2011-2022	24	42	5835	2754	70	4/55	7/121	39.34	2.83	83.3	0	0
Harbhajan Singh	1998-2011	19	34	4796	2476	62	7/120	7/102	39.93	3.09	77.3	3	0

 

Chandra has 6 5-er in 32 innings (like 1/6) 

 

NZ was utter minnow in the 60s; I remember Pras bullying them. remove NZ and add WI.

[zen]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

NZ was utter minnow in the 60s; I remember Pras bullying them. remove NZ and add WI.

 

That is more conditions related than teams ... Conditions clubbed under the umbrella of SENA even though conditions can vary at venues too. 

 

Ind was relatively a minnow too in that era (though the 60s was an interesting decade for Indian cricket) ... Tiger brought a belief and backed the 4 spinners (w/o resorting to rank turners which enabled these spinners to compete in a variety of conditions). 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

10 minutes ago, Vijy said:

NZ was utter minnow in the 60s; I remember Pras bullying them. remove NZ and add WI.

 

Zaheer abbas and co thrashed all our spinners He scored 3 back to back centuries. I think his only issue was against Chandra. But Javed played him well.

[zen]

@Vijy  I have added WI to SENA for your information:

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Balls	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
BS Chandrasekhar	1967-1979	23	38	6202	2881	92	6/38	12/104	31.31	2.78	67.4	8	1
BS Bedi	1967-1979	34	58	10145	3901	123	6/127	10/194	31.71	2.30	82.4	6	1
EAS Prasanna	1962-1978	25	42	7174	2931	92	8/76	11/140	31.85	2.45	77.9	5	1
Harbhajan Singh	1998-2011	27	50	6817	3407	98	7/120	8/180	34.76	2.99	69.5	6	0
RA Jadeja	2013-2023	23	41	4864	2166	61	6/138	7/258	35.50	2.67	79.7	1	0
A Kumble	1990-2008	46	84	14215	6632	186	8/141	12/279	35.65	2.79	76.4	8	1
R Ashwin	2011-2022	28	49	6621	3148	87	7/83	7/121	36.18	2.85	76.1	2	0
RJ Shastri	1981-1992	30	48	6144	2439	64	5/125	8/179	38.10	2.38	96.0	1	0
S Venkataraghavan	1967-1983	25	41	6602	2753	62	5/95	6/96	44.40	2.50	106.4	1	0

 

 

Chandra now has 8 5-ers in 38 innings (so less than 1/5)

 

[putrevus]

Jadeja is 100 times better bowler than Bishen Bedi ever was in his career, Ashwin is far better bowler than Kumble ever was or for that matter  any other Indian spinner alive or dead.Bhajji is not even patch on Ashwin.

 

This is before we include their batting, if we include their batting no other spinner added the value as they both have done.

 

Idiots who have no clue  about cricket can come up with these topics.

 

Bishen Bedi is the same coward who instead of facing the heat of WI fast bowlers forfeited the match in 1976.

 

Ashwin his all his injuries took body blows  from Aussies to save test which paved way for Gabba.

 

 

[zen]

Talking about the ongoing Ashes test, where Lyon picked up 8 wickets, Moeen Ali has picked up 3 wickets too so far including that of Head twice! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lord]

12 hours ago, rkt.india said:

but they dont assist spinners.

 

Indian pitches don't assist pacers. That makes Umesh better than Anderson/Broad.