Singh bling Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 https://www.news18.com/business/tomato-price-on-the-rise-hits-rs-250-per-kg-in-this-state-overall-thali-cost-rises-8275531.html Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Under_Score said: Vegetable vendor who deployed bouncers to guard tomatoes in Varanasi arrested A vegetable shop owner, who had deployed bouncers to guard tomatoes in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Lok Sabha constituency of Varanasi, and his son were arrested by the police on various charges including promoting hatred, enmity or ill will between classes https://www.deccanherald.com/national/north-and-central/vegetable-vendor-who-deployed-bouncers-to-guard-tomatoes-in-varanasi-arrested-1235701.html key point in your post is the underlined... this could happen anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, diga said: key point in your post is the underlined... this could happen anywhere The key point is that when crop growth in India hits a record it is "Jai Modi". When tomato prices are thru the roof then it was a result of a poor policy adapted by Nehru 50 years back. Lord, Vijy and Under_Score 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Khota said: The key point is that when crop growth in India hits a record it is "Jai Modi". When tomato prices are thru the roof then it was a result of a poor policy adapted by Nehru 50 years back. Weren’t farmers throwing vegetables on the street because middlemen Dalle were paying ₹ 1/kg ? Prices could have been controlled if they were sold to buyers across a region, stored and sold where there is shortage! Alas, such policy changes were opposed so that middlemen can be richer and farmers and end user can suffer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Khota said: The key point is that when crop growth in India hits a record it is "Jai Modi". When tomato prices are thru the roof then it was a result of a poor policy adapted by Nehru 50 years back. Are you that dumb? Don't you see that the poster posts the news only because it's from Varanasi...for all you know that vendor might be from SP / BSP or any other party. PS: you want to troll, two can play a game Edited July 12, 2023 by diga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, diga said: Are you that dumb? Don't you see that the poster posts the news only because it's from Varanasi...for all you know that vendor might be from SP / BSP or any other party. PS: you want to troll, two can play a game You are playing that game and I am losing. It is not even a contest. You are that good. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Weren’t farmers throwing vegetables on the street because middlemen Dalle were paying ₹ 1/kg ? Prices could have been controlled if they were sold to buyers across a region, stored and sold where there is shortage! Alas, such policy changes were opposed so that middlemen can be richer and farmers and end user can suffer! This you blame on the farmers but you credit Modi for record growth. Can you explain to me what double standards mean. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, Khota said: You are playing that game and I am losing. It is not even a contest. You are that good. Thanks... There will be enough comebacks with " khotas" like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Khota said: This you blame on the farmers but you credit Modi for record growth. Can you explain to me what double standards mean. When you block roads , do chakka jam and block policies that would ease price rise and play rudaali when price actually rises! beetle and bharathh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Khota said: The key point is that when crop growth in India hits a record it is "Jai Modi". When tomato prices are thru the roof then it was a result of a poor policy adapted by Nehru 50 years back. Well you should the farmers in Punjab. They essentially rolled back farming reforms which would enable companies to estimate supply and demand and plan for it. Now the reaction will be late if farmers are reacting to the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, gattaca said: Well you should the farmers in Punjab. They essentially rolled back farming reforms which would enable companies to estimate supply and demand and plan for it. Now the reaction will be late if farmers are reacting to the market. Agriculture is state subject . Please ask various states where BJP governments are to enact whatever laws which benefit farmers of their state. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Agriculture is state subject . Please ask various states where BJP governments are to enact whatever laws which benefit farmers of their state. BJP withdrew the whole bill regardless of states. Punjab farmers did make it a national issue by driving tractors through Delhi and Talking out national flag and BJP chickened out. Regardless do you agree companies are better at predicting and planning for markets than individual farmers ? Edited July 12, 2023 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, gattaca said: BJP withdrew the whole bill regardless of states. Punjab farmers did make it a national issue by driving tractors through Delhi and Talking out national flag and BJP chickened out. Regardless do you agree companies are better at predicting and planning for markets than individual farmers ? Apart from subsidies nothing help farmers. Look at west despite companies large numbers of farmers leaving farming. Look at china same number of people almost same number of farmers but 130 billion dollars subsidy india only 15-20. We clearly has examples where companies do not help farmers. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Apart from subsidies nothing help farmers. Look at west despite companies large numbers of farmers leaving farming. Look at china same number of people almost same number of farmers but 130 billion dollars subsidy india only 15-20. We clearly has examples where companies do not help farmers. Shouldn’t state govt give subsidies ? State govt busy rolling back to old pension schemes. It includes congress and AAP which is detrimental for the country in long term. In Telangana we do get subsidies based on the area you own and cultivate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, gattaca said: Well you should the farmers in Punjab. They essentially rolled back farming reforms which would enable companies to estimate supply and demand and plan for it. Now the reaction will be late if farmers are reacting to the market. Hate is driving your posts. In due time all farmers will leave farming as there is no money in it. BJP had the reforms backwards. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, gattaca said: Shouldn’t state govt give subsidies ? State govt busy rolling back to old pension schemes. It includes congress and AAP which is detrimental for the country in long term. In Telangana we do get subsidies based on the area you own and cultivate. In Telengana you get lot of industries which are not there in Punjab. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Khota said: Hate is driving your posts. In due time all farmers will leave farming as there is no money in it. BJP had the reforms backwards. Where is the hate ? Removing Indian flag is bad look for any Indian citizen unless you agree with it. There are multiple ways to protest but not that way. Punjab itself sends lot of soilders it is disrespectful to them. I don’t think farmers will leave farming I have seen few guys who did IIT/IIM went back to organic farming in my region. It is responsibility of state and central govts to provide support and reforms. Edited July 12, 2023 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Khota said: In Telengana you get lot of industries which are not there in Punjab. Punjab can attract companies why aren’t they trying ? software companies can be established there as well. Edited July 12, 2023 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, gattaca said: Shouldn’t state govt give subsidies ? State govt busy rolling back to old pension schemes. It includes congress and AAP which is detrimental for the country in long term. In Telangana we do get subsidies based on the area you own and cultivate. State government already give subsidies. Punjab's budget is squeezed because of Agriculture subsidies. Please remember much of the revenue generated is with central government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Seems like good amount of subsidies were given ? Either they don’t trickle down to farmers or they don’t know how to claim them ? An analysis by the agency puts Chhattisgarh, Punjab, Rajasthan, Karnataka and Bihar as the top five states in terms of subsidies as a percentage of GSDP during FY19-FY22. Punjab which ranks second in terms of the subsidy given as percentage of GSDP (gross state domestic product) and eighth in terms of absolute subsidy given during FY19-FY22 is one of the most heavily indebted states of India. Its debt/GSDP is budgeted at 53.3% in FY22. With the state’s fiscal deficit budgeted at ₹242.4 billion (4.6% of GSDP), interest burden at ₹203.2 billion (3.8% of GSDP) and outstanding liability at ₹2.83 trillion, Punjab can ill afford more subsidy, the ratings agency said. However, with the new government in power which had made a number of promises including free power to every household up to 300 units, ₹1,000 per month to every adult woman and free medical treatment via mohalla clinics, Punjab is staring at an even larger subsidy bill. https://www.livemint.com/news/india/rise-in-state-level-subsidy-a-cause-of-worry-india-ratings/amp-11651233432754.html The subsidies from the Government of India are Rs. 70,000 crores towards fertilizers, Rs. 20,000 crores towards farm credit, Rs. 6500 crores towards crop insurance, Rs. 24,000 crores towards MSP totalling Rs. 120,500 crores. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/economic-policy/farm-subsidies-account-for-21-farm-income-per-hectare-with-continuing-patronage-of-governments/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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