World Cup Warm-up Matches Discussion Thread - Non India games

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

 

Yeah they should have developed that option before. Too late now. Atleast combined they could 6-8 overs.

 

Terrible batting lineup in 2019. Just 7 doesn't make it invincible strategy. Karthik,Dhoni were trash. If Dhawan was fit we'd have much better chance.

It is not that they didn't want to develop.

 

So watching some other team and saying we should do that never works, England bats deep, so do you Aussies.

 

Inida has 4 number 11s but they are not Mcgraths either with the ball.So it will be always give and take.

 

But we kept blaming captain and coach , what could they do if Dhawan and then Shankar got hurt.

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, putrevus said:

It is not that they didn't want to develop.

 

So watching some other team and saying we should do that never works, England bats deep, so do you Aussies.

 

Inida has 4 number 11s but they are not Mcgraths either with the ball.So it will be always give and take.

 

But we kept blaming captain and coach , what could they do if Dhawan and then Shankar got hurt.

 

yeah everyone has to develop 2nd skill. Bumrah and Shami atleast have worked on their batting a bit. But batters don't bowl even in dead rubbers.

 

Eng and Aus bat deep due to same reason. They get bowling from top 6.

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

yeah everyone has to develop 2nd skill. Bumrah and Shami atleast have worked on their batting a bit. But batters don't bowl even in dead rubbers.

 

Eng and Aus bat deep due to same reason. They get bowling from top 6.

Sehwag, Sachin did not bowl in 2011. Most of the indian batsmen are on their last legs, they won't be developing new skills.

 

Australia and England have bowler who can score runs. They are far better than Indian bowlers in batting.

 

Last odi match is the reality of Indian bowlers' batting. They shut the shop down after 40 overs.

 

 

[Lord]

10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Sehwag, Sachin did not bowl in 2011. Most of the indian batsmen are on their last legs, they won't be developing new skills.

 

Australia and England have bowler who can score runs. They are far better than Indian bowlers in batting.

 

Last odi match is the reality of Indian bowlers' batting. They shut the shop down after 40 overs.

 

 

 

That's exactly why you need an extra batter. 

[putrevus]

Just now, Lord said:

 

That's exactly why you need an extra batter. 

India is not chasing any 350 plus with 6 or 7 batsmen. 

[Austin 3:!6]

All left arm seamers are getting good swing under lights.

 

Starc in last game and Boult today. Shaheen Shah will be deadly in these conditions.

 

Just hope we bat first against them on 14th

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

All left arm seamers are getting good swing under lights.

 

Starc in last game and Boult today. Shaheen Shah will be deadly in these conditions.

 

Just hope we bat first against them on 14th

 

both games at Thiruvananthapuram.

 

We are playing poyzz at Ahmedabad.

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

All left arm seamers are getting good swing under lights.

 

Starc in last game and Boult today. Shaheen Shah will be deadly in these conditions.

 

Just hope we bat first against them on 14th

They sure have to think of sending a LHB as opener if they are playing these teams.

[R!TTER]

Unless you are 100% sure there will be dew at night just bat first, don't do like Brat who basically handed Pak the cup in 2017 with garlands 

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Unless you are 100% sure there will be dew at night just bat first, don't do like Brat who basically handed Pak the cup in 2017 with garlands 

 

That was a day game though.

[Austin 3:!6]

15 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

both games at Thiruvananthapuram.

 

We are playing poyzz at Ahmedabad.

 

It swings in Ahmedabad too under lights....happened in IPL too.

 

 

[Austin 3:!6]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They sure have to think of sending a LHB as opener if they are playing these teams.

 

There is no left hander in Indian team apart from Jadeja....Kishan will not be in playing XI.

 

I can already see Rohit's front foot against Shaheen's inswinger 

[R!TTER]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

That was a day game though.

Right & that's why I said BRat did the stupidest thing possible, you could argue SCG as well in 2003 but we were facing the best ODI side ever - I doubt any combination of India's ATG team could beat them on that day!

[Austin 3:!6]

New Zealand is suddenly looking a very good team. I was listening to one interview of Nasser Hussain and he thinks most teams in this world cup is equally matched and disparity among sides is very less.

[Austin 3:!6]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Right & that's why I said BRat did the stupidest thing possible, you could argue SCG as well in 2003 but we were facing the best ODI side ever - I doubt any combination of India's ATG team could beat them on that day!

 

Lets move on from CT...we were destined to lose that game. Had Bumrah not bowled that no-ball, we would have won it even with bowling first

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

There is no left hander in Indian team apart from Jadeja....Kishan will not be in playing XI.

 

I can already see Rohit's front foot against Shaheen's inswinger 

I would send Jadeja in that case.He is not going to do much anyway down the order.

 

If India has to win this world cup.Coaching has to play a vital role. Both Shastri and Dravid in his tenure  have never shown any out of the box thinking.

 

No shame is changing the batting lineup to counteract  the strength of opposing team.

 

If coaches cannot assess the conditions and help team adapt then what is point in having them.

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Right & that's why I said BRat did the stupidest thing possible, you could argue SCG as well in 2003 but we were facing the best ODI side ever - I doubt any combination of India's ATG team could beat them on that day!

 

nah our bowling was terrible except Bumrah. Wouldn't have mattered

[Lone Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

New Zealand is suddenly looking a very good team. I was listening to one interview of Nasser Hussain and he thinks most teams in this world cup is equally matched and disparity among sides is very less.

They are a good side but will have to see how they work in Indian conditions.   I do think Saffers are tad bit better than them atm. 

[Serpico]

28 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They sure have to think of sending a LHB as opener if they are playing these teams.

Shaheen averages 23.5 against LHB and 23.3 against RHB. I doubt jadeja would do much better against a new ball since he would have a lot less practice 

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

yeah everyone has to develop 2nd skill. Bumrah and Shami atleast have worked on their batting a bit. But batters don't bowl even in dead rubbers.

 

Eng and Aus bat deep due to same reason. They get bowling from top 6.

It's always difficult to get bowlers to hit a decent level. Woakes wasn't a great #7 in the last World Cup and only made some impact against BD.

 

It's always easier to get batters to bowl spin/medium pace seam up.

 

It's why bowling allrounder s have to make it as quality wicket taking bowlers first.