Trichromatic Posted October 6, 2023 Posted October 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Khota said: Bihar was negative, bengal was 3% and Punjab was at 9%. In the middle but your hate knows no bounds. September was slow for entire country.
Trichromatic Posted October 6, 2023 Posted October 6, 2023 15 hours ago, cowboysfan said: I despise reservations but got to admit BJP is screwed here,other states will come out with similar surveys before the election.If they are smart they will give 50% of the seats to OBCs across the board. What's your solution to end caste based discrimation?
Singh bling Posted October 6, 2023 Author Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: What's your solution to end caste based discrimation? Is their discrimination against OBC or EBC infact in crime against Dalits upper OBCs are main culprit.
Khota Posted October 6, 2023 Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: September was slow for entire country. What was the reason given?
cowboysfan Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Trichromatic said: What's your solution to end caste based discrimation? IMO the only way is massive Education improvement.I am not talking about more reservations either,we need a huge improvement is the level of early education.almost all kids from small towns around India have a big disadvantage because they starting from behind compared to city kids.this may sound simplistic but its a start and we have made huge improvement to combat Discrimination since independence.
Trichromatic Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: IMO the only way is massive Education improvement.I am not talking about more reservations either,we need a huge improvement is the level of early education.almost all kids from small towns around India have a big disadvantage because they starting from behind compared to city kids.this may sound simplistic but its a start and we have made huge improvement to combat Discrimination since independence. My parents tell me that so called lower castes weren't allowed inside the village itself, let alone allowing them to enter any house. Back in 1990s when I used to village, they used to live on outskirts of village and had no access to any infra in village. Fast forward to 2023, now people are educated and yet everyone wants to marry in their caste most of the time. Even now educated parents have mindset that they are ready to marry their kids in any caste as long as it's not lower caste. Khota 1
Khota Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: My parents tell me that so called lower castes weren't allowed inside the village itself, let alone allowing them to enter any house. Back in 1990s when I used to village, they used to live on outskirts of village and had no access to any infra in village. Fast forward to 2023, now people are educated and yet everyone wants to marry in their caste most of the time. Even now educated parents have mindset that they are ready to marry their kids in any caste as long as it's not lower caste. I had neighbors whose grandparents would not let lower caste people enter their kitchen. With a straight face they told me they are dirty. We as a society have issues.
bharathh Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Only way to remove caste discrimination is to remove all caste based affirmative action. Reduce the importance of caste completely. This is only entrenching the caste system more with everyone including rich landed people claiming victimhood.
Trichromatic Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, bharathh said: Only way to remove caste discrimination is to remove all caste based affirmative action. Reduce the importance of caste completely. This is only entrenching the caste system more with everyone including rich landed people claiming victimhood. People think caste discrimination is education and economic issue. Most of the Indians carry caste has integral part of their identity. Unless that is removed, this discrimination will remain forever.
bharathh Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: People think caste discrimination is education and economic issue. Most of the Indians carry caste has integral part of their identity. Unless that is removed, this discrimination will remain forever. That will not get removed through reverse discrimination.
Trichromatic Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, bharathh said: That will not get removed through reverse discrimination. What's reverse discrimination?
bharathh Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: What's reverse discrimination? Affirmative action. Caste based reservation
Trichromatic Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, bharathh said: Affirmative action. Caste based reservation How is it discrimination?
bharathh Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: How is it discrimination? I'll let you figure that out
Trichromatic Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, bharathh said: I'll let you figure that out Which probably means that you're sure that it's discrimination, but not sure how.
bharathh Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Trichromatic said: Which probably means that you're sure that it's discrimination, but not sure how. Sure. Whatever makes you happy
cowboysfan Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Trichromatic said: My parents tell me that so called lower castes weren't allowed inside the village itself, let alone allowing them to enter any house. Back in 1990s when I used to village, they used to live on outskirts of village and had no access to any infra in village. Fast forward to 2023, now people are educated and yet everyone wants to marry in their caste most of the time. Even now educated parents have mindset that they are ready to marry their kids in any caste as long as it's not lower caste. this is sadly true even now.Caste is still king even in cities in case the marriage.
Lord Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Reservation is okay in education. But jobs should be merit based only. Even then there should be some way to have reservation based on financial status than caste ravishingravi 1
ravishingravi Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Folks here are conflating 10 different issues. Question to be asked. Equality of opportunity, do we want ? Yes. Equality of outcome, for me, no ? Education. If equality of opportunity is the criteria , are the reservations helping in achieving this ? I think so, yes. But now we need to make this criteria based on financial status. I have adopted three girls from slums and I can see how unfair it is for them to on the same criteria as another SCST candidate with parents earning more than 50 lakhs. Job. If the education criteria is being , then the support has to end there. The base has been somewhat evened up and now we have to let the individual make it. No reservation for sure. Discrimination in society. Has the discrimination increased or reduced ? What's the trend ? My sense is that with growing urbanization it's only reducing. Either way it is not job of the govt to forcefully make people like each other. Or agree with each. This will have even worse second effects. coffee_rules and Trichromatic 2
ravishingravi Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 54 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: this is sadly true even now.Caste is still king even in cities in case the marriage. And what's the trend. I am from the city and apart from one friend in my circle every case is of an inter caste marriage including mine.
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