Wonderful to see the crowd supporting Pakistan

[Mesky99]

Scum pakistanis are all out on twitter galore, check up Vikrant Gupta's tweet regarding the midget cun6 Rizwan, all that hospitality, seeking peace, brotherhood, don't mix politics with sports is false, all it took was one victory and jihadis are out in huge numbers, now imagine if Pak beat india on Saturday? Hindus will be mocked, abused and even our gods won't be spared, enjoy cricket, enjoy sports but understand one thing you will be hated and always remain a kaffir.

[Nikhil_cric]

5 hours ago, Number said:

For people who have wives, aunts, uncles from Pakistan it is very different from how we view Pakistan. There is genuine goodwill from their hearts towards Pakistan. They genuinely wish for both countries to have good relations and peace.

Old city Hyderabad still has these relations with Pakistanis. 

Supporting Pakistan in a neutral match doesn't mean someone hates India or Hindus or is ready to be an ISI agent. The support is for cricketers not for their army or politicians or ISI or terrorists. 

I am someone who supports anyone playing against Pakistan, but still if there are Indians supporting Pakistan in a neutral game, I wouldn't really think too much of them.

 

This. An earlier generation of Urdu speaking Muslims were extremely sympathetic to Pakistan because they had cousins and friends who moved to Pakistan.  

 

It's only in the last 20 years or so that younger Muslim kids have stopped associating with Pakistan to that extent. 

 

 

[AshVin]

LMAO

 

A section of the crowd in Hyderabad would support Pakistan over India if it came to war too.

 

These are descendants of Razakars who massacred Hindus in Hyderabad after Independence.

 

The naivety of Hindus is so cute to see.

[rollingstoned]

1 hour ago, Sean Bradley said:

Go and dismantle them, who has stopped you, yaha baithke bhaashan kyun de Raha hai chutiye.  * mein dum hai toh take action, internet mein baithke bhaukne se kuch nahi hota.

Lol. It seems that what you 'do' and what 'action' you take only matters if you express certain opinions that are perceived as being politically incorrect even if they are grounded in facts and not wishful thinking. Otherwise even you are only barking here because you think doing so is going to promote some sham communal harmony that you feel is threatened with such discussions. 

[rollingstoned]

2 hours ago, Sean Bradley said:

You can't paint everyone with the same brush, there are certain elements who will never want peace on both sides, and you seem to be one of them. So I don't want to engage in a conversation with a hate monger like yourself.

Of course you'd rather enable 'hate mongering' to carry on uninhibited instead by trotting out ignorant banalities like above which engage in disingenuous both-siding ie both sides must be to blame somehow even if I don't know how. 

[Mesky99]

11 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

This. An earlier generation of Urdu speaking Muslims were extremely sympathetic to Pakistan because they had cousins and friends who moved to Pakistan.  

 

It's only in the last 20 years or so that younger Muslim kids have stopped associating with Pakistan to that extent. 

 

 

All the elite moved over, so no most Hyderabadis never had relatives in Pak, majority over 95% stayed over once the Nizam left, the state didn't just cover the city but all of marathwada from nanded to Aurangabad, portions of telangana and eastern Karnataka, muslims here are the most radicalised ones, all stayed over after 47, Pakistan never had the resources to settle down 5million Muslims just from one region, must were uneducated, socially and economically backward, it's the Indian state that has empowered them so now they can watch matches paying big Sums for a ticket and support Pak, you would be heart broken to see the conditions of minority Hindus in rural Sindh, they are all bonded labourers, Hindu women are just physical objects, muslim elites moved over as they no longer had the clout they enjoyed prior 47, deobandi radicalisation and Indian states empowerment ensured even the backward gutter chap convert Muslims now dream of gazwa e hind.

Edited October 11, 2023 by Mesky99

[Sean Bradley]

10 minutes ago, AshVin said:

LMAO

 

A section of the crowd in Hyderabad would support Pakistan over India if it came to war too.

 

These are descendants of Razakars who massacred Hindus in Hyderabad after Independence.

 

The naivety of Hindus is so cute to see.

Certain sects of the crowd would do, not disagreeing, but allot of them don't, they have to bare the brunt of what others are doing in their community. You can't just go after everyone for the actions of a few. There are pro India supporters in Pakistan who are Muslims. Yes it's a fact, I had a Muslim friend from Pakistan in Dubai who was pro India, his ancestors are still living here in Mumbai, he feels he's been cheated by their quaid e azam. Their are innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with Hindu vs Muslims,  who have to bare the brunt of a few who get a kick from Hindu vs Muslim debate. 

[AshVin]

22 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said:

Certain sects of the crowd would do, not disagreeing, but allot of them don't, they have to bare the brunt of what others are doing in their community. You can't just go after everyone for the actions of a few. There are pro India supporters in Pakistan who are Muslims. Yes it's a fact, I had a Muslim friend from Pakistan in Dubai who was pro India, his ancestors are still living here in Mumbai, he feels he's been cheated by their quaid e azam. Their are innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with Hindu vs Muslims,  who have to bare the brunt of a few who get a kick from Hindu vs Muslim debate. 

 

The moderates among that section will never throw their own extremists under the bus.

 

How many Indian Muslims opposed the "Sar Tan se Juda" chants on Nupur Sharma issue?

 

Yes, most of them won't directly cause harm but they'll stay silent when their extremists slaughter.

 

They are defending beheading babies and parading dead women in public. You are free to live in denial because you have 1 friend in Pakistan who supports India.

[Mesky99]

28 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said:

Certain sects of the crowd would do, not disagreeing, but allot of them don't, they have to bare the brunt of what others are doing in their community. You can't just go after everyone for the actions of a few. There are pro India supporters in Pakistan who are Muslims. Yes it's a fact, I had a Muslim friend from Pakistan in Dubai who was pro India, his ancestors are still living here in Mumbai, he feels he's been cheated by their quaid e azam. Their are innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with Hindu vs Muslims,  who have to bare the brunt of a few who get a kick from Hindu vs Muslim debate. 

They ain't pro Hindus nor pro India, they just haven't tasted political success nor much economical as the Urdu speaking karachities became second class citizens after the Pak punjabi army took over the state and made muhajirs basically Indian Muslims second class citizens, like I said the Urdu elites only moved over because they no longer had clout here over Hindus and we're promised king sized life in Pak while their islamic proxies here in india carried on doubling their pop, the same bangladeshi Muslims were pro India after 71 liberation but it did not stop them from genociding Hindus in the next 50 years and become another hell hole for Hindu minorites, the issue here is religion and their mindset over non believers, the same bangladeshi cheer for Pak players over India even after the brutal massacre the pak state commited on its people, I ain't got nothing against but you need more knowledge on geo politics and Islam in particular, 90% of Indian Muslims are deobandi and hannafi, this section makes it clear a Muslim should consider another muslim is brother, non believers who are ought to be brought to the true religion, if not jizya/islamic tax to be put upon them for following a false religion, you quite naive.

[Sean Bradley]

20 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

They ain't pro Hindus nor pro India, they just haven't tasted political success nor much economical as the Urdu speaking karachities became second class citizens after the Pak punjabi army took over the state and made muhajirs basically Indian Muslims second class citizens, like I said the Urdu elites only moved over because they no longer had clout here over Hindus and we're promised king sized life in Pak while their islamic proxies here in india carried on doubling their pop, the same bangladeshi Muslims were pro India after 71 liberation but it did not stop them from genociding Hindus in the next 50 years and become another hell hole for Hindu minorites, the issue here is religion and their mindset over non believers, the same bangladeshi cheer for Pak players over India even after the brutal massacre the pak state commited on its people, I ain't got nothing against but you need more knowledge on geo politics and Islam in particular, 90% of Indian Muslims are deobandi and hannafi, this section makes it clear a Muslim should consider another muslim is brother, non believers who are ought to be brought to the true religion, if not jizya/islamic tax to be put upon them for following a false religion, you quite naive.

Ok but now all Indians Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Parsis are head and shoulders above Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in terms of economical progress, health, infrastructure, education etc, many Hindus are even dwelling into the spirituality our ancestors left behind and progressing in Yoga and Spirituality. So what your problem is really? I don't see any problem with Ghazwa e hind, it is not a threat. It is not possible with physical strength, biology will not allow it to happen. Nuclear war will clean up everyone, so what are you worried about?

Edited October 11, 2023 by Sean Bradley

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Mesky99 said:

Scum pakistanis are all out on twitter galore, check up Vikrant Gupta's tweet regarding the midget cun6 Rizwan, all that hospitality, seeking peace, brotherhood, don't mix politics with sports is false, all it took was one victory and jihadis are out in huge numbers, now imagine if Pak beat india on Saturday? Hindus will be mocked, abused and even our gods won't be spared, enjoy cricket, enjoy sports but understand one thing you will be hated and always remain a kaffir.

We also mock them equally...  It goes both ways. 

Religious extremism brought Pakistan to what it is today. 

Even their ISI & Army is helpless against Mullas & Madarsas... 

The country is a gone case...  Why should we care about their goodwill? 

[Mesky99]

5 hours ago, LehraDo said:

Posts are hatred but a guy taking a religious flag to a cricket ground is all love 

The guy symbolises a lot, yhh we Muslims are Indians but our first priority is ummah, we will enjoy India's secular democratic setup, enjoy economical and social empowerment but religion and ummah first.

[Mariyam]

2 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

Just making a point, Hindus completely wiped out in Pakistan and bang while Muslims in India have doubled and empowered socially, politically and educationally, do you feel Hindus have the right to call for a Hindu rashtra considering how the country was divided on religious basis in 47 and only Muslims got three different chunks from the same pie?

Do I feel if Hindus have gotten the short end of the stick during the partition? Yes.

 

Given the dire situation of the land of the 'pure' and given how much we are doing better than them economically, socially and on almost every HDI metric is a testament to the fact that that the general idea of an India for everyone is better than their idea of a Pakistan only for Muslims.

Lets just say that the concept of India is ideologically superior to the concept of Pakistan.

[Mesky99]

Just now, Mariyam said:

Do I feel if Hindus have gotten the short end of the stick during the partition? Yes.

 

Given the dire situation of the land of the 'pure' and given how much we are doing better than them economically, socially and on almost every HDI metric is a testament to the fact that that the general idea of an India for everyone is better than their idea of a Pakistan only for Muslims.

Lets just say that the concept of India is ideologically superior to the concept of Pakistan.

Well the idea of india is great when there is some reformation to Islam, at the end we will remain non believers, no economic parameter will change the concept of ummah, Bangladesh another example, hell hole for Hindu minorites, the same hindus who were hounded and killed by both bangali islamists and Pak army, they contributed the most towards bangladesh's freedom but 50 years time they are back being labelled kaffirs.

[diga]

1 hour ago, AshVin said:

 

The moderates among that section will never throw their own extremists under the bus.

 

How many Indian Muslims opposed the "Sar Tan se Juda" chants on Nupur Sharma issue?

 

Yes, most of them won't directly cause harm but they'll stay silent when their extremists slaughter.

 

They are defending beheading babies and parading dead women in public. You are free to live in denial because you have 1 friend in Pakistan who supports India.

Even on this forum , we only had a few sane voices 

[AshVin]

10 minutes ago, diga said:

Even on this forum , we only had a few sane voices 

 

It's not just this forum but up until recently, online spaces were mostly dominated by Liberal Urbanites.

 

Now, look at this Indian Islamist below. Look at the logic she uses to defend Hamas and Palestine.

 

Now, if this exact same logic is used in the Indian context regarding Islamic invasions, you'll be called a bigot by this Islamist/Leftist lot.

 

 

[cricketfan28]

Yes nrr

[rollingstoned]

19 minutes ago, AshVin said:

 

It's not just this forum but up until recently, online spaces were mostly dominated by Liberal Urbanites.

 

Now, look at this Indian Islamist below. Look at the logic she uses to defend Hamas and Palestine.

 

Now, if this exact same logic is used in the Indian context regarding Islamic invasions, you'll be called a bigot by this Islamist/Leftist lot.

 

 

Leave not-so-moderate Muslims who masquerade as liberals aside. Your HINOs and liberals get the shock of their lives when they're confronted with whatever they were warned about but kept denying/justifying using specious logic for the sake of social approval. 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2023 by rollingstoned

[AshVin]

5 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Leave not-so-moderate Muslims who masquerade as liberals aside. Your HINOs and liberals get the shock of their lives when they're confronted with whatever they were warned about but kept denying/justifying using specious logic for the sake of social approval. 

 

 

 

HINO's and Liberals who show empathy to Muslims are almost always the first victims in the hands of Muslims.

 

The Liberal can't stop himself from virtue signalling, the Islamist can't stop himself from hurting the Kuffar.

 

Match made in heaven.

[kubrickian]

These M's are so frustrated, dude. If they love Pakistan, so much why dont they * off to Pakistan ? Maybe they can join their brothers in Pakistan and beg other countries for money to buy aata. Shameless beggars.