What is India's best XI in the knockout matches now - considering form and pitches ?

[Lord]

4 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

The only major weakness we have is our poor batting depth. It can prove very costly if we lose too many early wickets. 

 

If Pandya is fit enough to bowl 10 overs in Knockouts we can have him in place of Siraj. This will strengthen our batting immensely without weakening the bowling much.

 

1. Rohit

2. Gill

3. Kohli

4. Iyer

5. Rahul(wk)

6. SKY

7. Hardik

8. Jadeja

9. Shami

10. Bumrah

11. Kuldeep

 

Jadeja is bowling well this WC. Has an eco of just 3.75, the lowest of all bowlers in this WC. He can complete his full quota.  Pandya is not far behind Siraj as an ODI bowler. 

 

 

 

I've more trust in Ashwin's batting than Iyer atm. Gives a bowling option too.

[prudent_kreeda]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Hardik will be the 3rd pacer. If he's not fit then Siraj can play. In any case Shami should take new ball.

  No . Saying again - Need 3 Proper pacers - international quality , not  hardik( that too after an injury, now he can only be 6th bolwer for few overs in this WC) , nor Sardul . 

  India has more probability of win in this WC  with bowlers than batting.  So bet on top 5 bowlers  

[Lord]

1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said:

  No . Saying again - Need 3 Proper pacers - international quality , not  hardik( that too after an injury, now he can only be 6th bolwer for few overs in this WC) , nor Sardul . 

  India has more probability of win in this WC  with bowlers than batting.  So bet on top 5 bowlers  

 

Hardik was the 3rd pacer when Shami wasn't playing. No one complained and we did fine.

 

Ofcourse I am talking if he's fully fit.He can well do what Siraj has done so far.

 

If he's not fit to bowl at his usual pace, Siraj comes in.

[straighttalk]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Pandya is unlikely to be fit enough to bowl fiery spells. Would lack match practice too.

 

It is unlikely that he can operate as a proper pacer in this World Cup.

 

We are seeing how the 3 fast bowler / 5 specialist bowler attack is making our bowling attack very potent.

 

We need 3 specialist pacers excluding allrounders. 

 

Hardik plays as 6th bowler.

 

The third pacer siraj is very odd color..in theory good but he is leaking runs and not taking wickets.

He is effectively bowling at Thakur or Pandya level. Does not add Anything with the bat.

All three semifinalist are sena teams...we need batting depth.

I would play Ashwin.

 

Either pandya replaces siraj or the really poor option is Ashwin replaces Kuldeep.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Hardik will be the 3rd pacer. If he's not fit then Siraj can play. In any case Shami should take new ball.

 

Hardik shouldn't be the 3rd pacer. Everyone can see what 3 frontline sharp and skilful pacers are doing bowling in tandem. The pressure is relentless. 

 

Shamii is a quick seam bowler. Hence he can bowl much better with as a first change bowler compared to Siraj who likes to swing the new ball.  One can see the results too 

 

Let's not change what is working like magic. 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

  No . Saying again - Need 3 Proper pacers - international quality , not  hardik( that too after an injury, now he can only be 6th bolwer for few overs in this WC) , nor Sardul . 

  India has more probability of win in this WC  with bowlers than batting.  So bet on top 5 bowlers  

 

Exactly !

 

With Bumrah, Siraj, Shami, Kuldeep, Jadeja bowling in tandem, and Hardik.as 6th bowler, we will feel that we can dismiss any team for below par scores on any surface 

 

Let's not change this. 

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Hardik shouldn't be the 3rd pacer. Everyone can see what 3 frontline sharp and skilful pacers are doing bowling in tandem. The pressure is relentless. 

 

Shamii is a quick seam bowler. Hence he can bowl much better with as a first change bowler compared to Siraj who likes to swing the new ball.  One can see the results too 

 

Let's not change what is working like magic. 

 

Shami wasn't there in first few games. Then Hardik was doing 3rd pacer job and did it well. Siraj hasn't done much better tbh. He's not swinging the new ball.

 

Shami can bowl with new ball and Hardik can do what Siraj is doing.Siraj is also pathetic in field let alone batting.

 

Shami and Bumrah are working like magic, no one wants to replace them. 

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Exactly !

 

With Bumrah, Siraj, Shami, Kuldeep, Jadeja bowling in tandem, and Hardik.as 6th bowler, we will feel that we can dismiss any team for below par scores on any surface 

 

Let's not change this. 

 

We won't be able to chase those totals v big teams with Shami at 8.

[express bowling]

8 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

We won't be able to chase those totals v big teams with Shami at 8.

 

And Shardul at 8 will make it happen ?

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Shami wasn't there in first few games. Then Hardik was doing 3rd pacer job and did it well. Siraj hasn't done much better tbh. He's not swinging the new ball.

 

Shami can bowl with new ball and Hardik can do what Siraj is doing.Siraj is also pathetic in field let alone batting.

 

Shami and Bumrah are working like magic, no one wants to replace them. 

 

A semi-fit Hardik may release all the pressure as first change bowler. The batsmen will play out the first 8 overs and target the 3rd pacer.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

A semi-fit Hardik may release all the pressure as first change bowler. The batsmen will play out the first 8 overs and target the 3rd pacer.

 

yes fitness should be tested in couple of games before semis. If he's not bowling at usual pace, Siraj should be in.

 

However not easy to play out Shami and Boom. They are not Bhuvi

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, straighttalk said:

The third pacer siraj is very odd color..in theory good but he is leaking runs and not taking wickets.

He is effectively bowling at Thakur or Pandya level. Does not add Anything with the bat.

All three semifinalist are sena teams...we need batting depth.

I would play Ashwin.

 

Either pandya replaces siraj or the really poor option is Ashwin replaces Kuldeep.

Pitches are getting sluggish not Turner's,pacers are more hard to get hit

Ball is not coming off for batsmen to play shots

Offspinners will be easy to handle for their already slow release,disciplined spinners like Santner are fine to some extent up untill now even a Jadeja

Ashwin tends to struggle with his line

Sluggish pitches bring in pacers more so than spinners

 

[Suhaan]

37 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

A semi-fit Hardik may release all the pressure as first change bowler. The batsmen will play out the first 8 overs and target the 3rd pacer.

Iwo t bring more than two spinners

Hardik, lol,i doubt he will bowl more than 3-4

[Suhaan]

Even the pitch in Pune today lacked pace

[putrevus]

Pandya cannot be your third pacer. 

 

Yesterday was prime example on why three front line pacers are important. 
 

India is not out batting other teams even with 7 batsmen but they could try once against SA. .

[prudent_kreeda]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Shami wasn't there in first few games. Then Hardik was doing 3rd pacer job and did it well. Siraj hasn't done much better tbh. He's not swinging the new ball.

 

Shami can bowl with new ball and Hardik can do what Siraj is doing.Siraj is also pathetic in field let alone batting.

 

Shami and Bumrah are working like magic, no one wants to replace them. 

 Hardik Played 3rd pacer when fully fit and before injury, but post injury he cannot be sure of playing that role . Now he can be only be buffer as a 6th bowler  but we  should hope  for his contribution as a batter .

With this buffer of 6th bowler by a batter , would give India still a chance if one of main bowlers cannot bowl full quota .

[prudent_kreeda]

14 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

India's preference is to wait until its too late and its finals and then experiment with the team.

 

Against SL, SA and Netherlands, India must give game time to its bench players, its beyond the Madness of Indian Cricket that if they dont and wait till finals to do this.

 

Shami should be given a break, he is an uncle that breaks down very easily. Even Uncle Rohit should be given a break from one of the games.

 

Ash, Lord and Kishan must all play in the next few games. Only then can India decide its best combination for the Semi's.

When was the last time Shami broke down  due to fitness issue ?  Who is the Indian pacer who hardly missed any test match due to injury in recent past 

[Majestic]

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar should be brought back for semis and finals. He has a massive legacy in building this bowling attack and hence he deserves reward by calling him out for the World Cup knockouts so that he could deserve his final shot to World Cup trophy. 

[Lord]

6 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 Hardik Played 3rd pacer when fully fit and before injury, but post injury he cannot be sure of playing that role . Now he can be only be buffer as a 6th bowler  but we  should hope  for his contribution as a batter .

With this buffer of 6th bowler by a batter , would give India still a chance if one of main bowlers cannot bowl full quota .

 

Yeah I'm only talking if Hardik is fit to bowl. Otherwise better to stick with same combination

[Lord]

13 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Pandya cannot be your third pacer. 

 

Yesterday was prime example on why three front line pacers are important. 
 

India is not out batting other teams even with 7 batsmen but they could try once against SA. .

 

2 were enough. Pandya if fit can do what Siraj did.