MediumPacer Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Typical hate for quick bowlers in india,just wanting them to fail. I guess you can watch batsmen batting against dibbly dobbly all day Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: Typical hate for quick bowlers in india,just wanting them to fail. I guess you can watch batsmen batting against dibbly dobbly all day Bumrah is not dibbly dobbly lol Neither are Shami/Siraj. DIbbly dobbly is hasan ali, current Shaheen. This one is a brainless pacer with no skill. Edited November 7, 2023 by vvvslaxman Reddysaab and maniac 2 Link to comment
Serpico Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: Typical hate for quick bowlers in india,just wanting them to fail. I guess you can watch batsmen batting against dibbly dobbly all day Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Bumrah is not dibbly dobbly lol Neither are Shami/Siraj. DIbbly dobbly is hasan ali, current Shaheen. This one is a brainless pacer with no skill. Why does pacers have to be skillfully,batsmen like fakhar can hack his way to runs but pacers have to do everything perfectly.Conditions are too unhelpful for quick. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, MediumPacer said: Why does pacers have to be skillfully,batsmen like fakhar can hack his way to runs but pacers have to do everything perfectly.Conditions are too unhelpful for quick. It's unhelpful equally for everyone, still Indian quicks are causing havoc. Had India played Mukesh, Bhuvi & Unadkut..they also would have been competing with Rauf, Shaheen & Hassan Ali in terms of runs. AuxiliA and express bowling 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 15 hours ago, Iconoclast said: His opening spell he bowls full to good lengths. But he does not target the stumps bowling 4th stump and moving the ball away. Good for getting edges and restricting runs but not bowled/lbw I told the same during Asia Cup..he doesn't bowl close to stumps and try to stay away from batters arc. It's a good skill for T20's as batters has to attack. But in ODI's batsman can wait for 2-3 overs and then pounce on him when the swing stops. Same is the issue with Shaheen, he gets wicket because batters try to attack him in T20's and in process.."over attack" him. In ODI's they can patiently find gaps without going bonkers. Once swing disappears, their lack of skill with bowl is exposed. putrevus, sugumarrising and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, MediumPacer said: Why does pacers have to be skillfully,batsmen like fakhar can hack his way to runs but pacers have to do everything perfectly.Conditions are too unhelpful for quick. Very reason your pace is useful is because you can take pitch out of the equation. If you are going to depend on pitch what is the difference between you and Anderson? express bowling 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: It's unhelpful equally for everyone, still Indian quicks are causing havoc. Had India played Mukesh, Bhuvi & Unadkut..they also would have been competing with Rauf, Shaheen & Hassan Ali in terms of runs. That's what i said, both are hacks ,yet it's favorable for one but not the other Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Very reason your pace is useful is because you can take pitch out of the equation. If you are going to depend on pitch what is the difference between you and Anderson? hasnt worked in a long time,maybe if you take off the helmet Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 Another feather in the cap. Highest runs conceded by any bowler in a single world cup. He beat Madhushanka by 6 runs .533 runs. Frustrated, sugumarrising, cricketfan28 and 2 others 5 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 50 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Another feather in the cap. Highest runs conceded by any bowler in a single world cup. He beat Madhushanka by 6 runs .533 runs. His fast and furious team mate Shaheen is not far behind with 481 runs. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, putrevus said: His fast and furious team mate Shaheen is not far behind with 481 runs. Combined 1000 runs lol putrevus 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 Purple cap goes to Haris Rauf sugumarrising 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Another feather in the cap. Highest runs conceded by any bowler in a single world cup. He beat Madhushanka by 6 runs .533 runs. Madushanka is the highest wicket taker ,and rauf also did well,he can't bowl with the new ball but probably the best old ball pacer in this wc. Your comparison is like saying de kock has been dismissed the most in this wc. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 1:11 AM, Iconoclast said: His pace makes 6 hitting easier for batsmen especially on these small grounds and flat tracks. With that being said if he wants to continue in longer formats he had better learn some skills to go along with the pace. I feel overall Pakistan's bowling coaches have not been doing a good job. Along with lack of skills there is a lack of a plan for both individual bowlers and the bowling unit as a whole. I agree. I hope he continues in playing XI for next 20 years vvvslaxman and sugumarrising 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: Madushanka is the highest wicket taker ,and rauf also did well,he can't bowl with the new ball but probably the best old ball pacer in this wc. Your comparison is like saying de kock has been dismissed the most in this wc. That is not comparison. That is called clutching at straws lol How can you compare runs with no. of dismissals. He was very expensive. Poor average. Boult has bowled 81 overs concedd only 418 runs. Rauf 79 overs 533 runs. Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: That is not comparison. That is called clutching at straws lol How can you compare runs with no. of dismissals. He was very expensive. Poor average. Boult has bowled 81 overs concedd only 418 runs. Rauf 79 overs 533 runs. Main bowlers will top the highest run list,even madhushaka is topping the list. Rauf can't bowl with the new ball,without naseem he got exposed.It's like if the top order gets blown away then the middle order will get exposed to the new ball. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, MediumPacer said: Main bowlers will top the highest run list,even madhushaka is topping the list. Rauf can't bowl with the new ball,without naseem he got exposed.It's like if the top order gets blown away then the middle order will get exposed to the new ball. Why are you dancing around instead of just admitting he is a crap bowler wiht no skill. That Naseem shah is lucky not to play here. He would have disappeared all over. Link to comment
Vilander Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 2:41 PM, Iconoclast said: small grounds and flat tracks Pakistan has smaller grounds and flatter tracks. It’s just that batsmen he bowls at here are better. Link to comment
bsriharsha Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Naseem is a good bowler but the last great bowler Pakistan churned out was Asif. None of the bowlers that have turned up for Pakistan come even close Link to comment
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