Suhaan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gollum said: But coaching staff has to go. Edited 8 minutes ago by Gollum Once we reach yet another SF this t20WC (near winning effort acc to TM and ex cricketers) Coaching Staff will be given another Kaliyuga term Coach Thanos going nowhere and Mhambrey will blossom like Sunflower in Aus like Arun Edited January 5 by Suhaan Gollum and singhvivek141 2 Link to comment
Autonomous Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Shame that Saim couldnt get to 50. Link to comment
Autonomous Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Hopefully Riz and Aamer can help extend the lead around 200. nitinbwj, neel roy and spiritb2 3 Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I personally feel patidar should be considered for a middle order slot, best backfoot player in domestic cricket now, peak of his career, needs to tighten the defence, if the selectors and team management have any sense of building a team players should be selected on skillset and ability rather than just numbers and hype, iyer is a number 6/7 in test cricket but with a average back foot game patidar slots imo, dhruv jurel another impressive batter, important fc season for yash dull and pradosh. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 This Aussie bowling unit has declined, not just Starc/Josh but also Lyon....he is struggling to hit his usual areas. Old Lyon would have metronomically hit those rough spots in mid 80s speed with flight, and made Babar look like a fool. Now he is mostly darting and all over the place. Boland is also 34. They too will have problems in near future. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 28 minutes ago, Mesky99 said: I personally feel patidar should be considered for a middle order slot, best backfoot player in domestic cricket now, peak of his career, needs to tighten the defence, if the selectors and team management have any sense of building a team players should be selected on skillset and ability rather than just numbers and hype, iyer is a number 6/7 in test cricket but with a average back foot game patidar slots imo, dhruv jurel another impressive batter, important fc season for yash dull and pradosh. They will give him a chance when he is 35. Don't worry. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gollum said: This Aussie bowling unit has declined, not just Starc/Josh but also Lyon....he is struggling to hit his usual areas. Old Lyon would have metronomically hit those rough spots in mid 80s speed with flight, and made Babar look like a fool. Now he is mostly darting and all over the place. Boland is also 34. They too will have problems in near future. Cummins and Lyon apart the other 2 were never good enough outside aus. Hazlewood had some moments on occasions. That's it. Edited January 5 by harpicP Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 It's a disgrace to see what Aussies did to boland. Kept on choosing wayward starc over boland for overseas tests. Probably cause he is of abrolginal origin. Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 19 minutes ago, harpicP said: It's a disgrace to see what Aussies did to boland. Kept on choosing wayward starc over boland for overseas tests. Probably cause he is of abrolginal origin. They can't drop Starc because he makes footmarks for Lyon to exploit, just check Lyon's record when he doesn't have Starc at the other end, you will be amazed by how ineffective he becomes. This is a 1+1 package, Lyon and Starc. Cummins is captain, so Boland is competing with Hazlewood. Edited January 5 by Gollum harpicP and ravishingravi 2 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Norman said: Yeah this is very important. Planing needs to start from now on itself...they shouldn't give a damn about the circus T20 World cup not that they're going to win it anyways. Our current fast bowing stocks are dog **** barring Bumrah and Siraj. Shami needs to be preserved and we need to groom atleast 3 more pacers for Australian conditions. Prasidh , Mukesh and Thakur and just not it. Avesh Khan, Harshit Rana, Kartik Tyagi should all be in the reckoning.. Well 11 months left. If we are smart we can do it. Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, Gollum said: They can't drop Starc because he makes footmarks for Lyon to exploit, just check Lyon's record when he doesn't have Starc at the other end, you will be amazed by how ineffective he becomes. This is a 1+1 package, Lyon and Starc. Cummins is captain, so Boland is competing with Hazlewood. That is true. I did see Lyons performances dip a few times without starcy. But that statement somewhat undermines Lyons ability tbh. He is a quality bowler. For someone to be so good in Australian pitches is quite an amazing feat. I am referring to his domestic record. Boland could have been played over hazlewood too. His record outside aus and England doesn't look good. Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 10 minutes ago, harpicP said: That is true. I did see Lyons performances dip a few times without starcy. But that statement somewhat undermines Lyons ability tbh. He is a quality bowler. For someone to be so good in Australian pitches is quite an amazing feat. I am referring to his domestic record. Lyon is a great bowler, but because of his line of attack and method of dismissals he needs the rough outside off to work with. He attacks one edge only unlike say Ashwin or Swann who brought both edges into play. That is also why Lyon is weak against LHBs. Swann and Ashwin enjoy(ed) success against LHBs, both prefer to keep ball within stumps...Lyon can't do that because he doesn't have a good arm ball as well. Edited January 5 by Gollum harpicP 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Assuming Pant is back Rohit/Sundar/Sai Jaiswal Gill Kohli Pant KL Jaddu Ashwin/Kuldeep Shami Bumrah Siraj This team is capable of beating Aus in all their venues except maybe Perth and D/N venue. For Perth/DN we need a pace AR at #8 like prime Thakur/Pandya. But even in Adelaide D/N in 2020, Ashwin was our best bowler by a long margin, we lost due to batting failure, actually had a lead of 50 runs despite 3-4 dropped catches. Yeah we won't be able to have a balanced XI in Perth & a D/N game without a fast bowling A/R... Either SoS to Vijay Shankar or groom Raj Bawa. Both can seam the ball.. Venky Iyer can't land the ball on Seam so he can't be considered. Gollum and harpicP 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 56 minutes ago, Mesky99 said: I personally feel patidar should be considered for a middle order slot, best backfoot player in domestic cricket now, peak of his career, needs to tighten the defence, if the selectors and team management have any sense of building a team players should be selected on skillset and ability rather than just numbers and hype, iyer is a number 6/7 in test cricket but with a average back foot game patidar slots imo, dhruv jurel another impressive batter, important fc season for yash dull and pradosh. Patidar is indeed best backfoot player in the domestics... Bit of Viru in him. Likes to play in the air. He will be good to have in Australia. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Yeah we won't be able to have a balanced XI in Perth & a D/N game without a fast bowling A/R... Either SoS to Vijay Shankar or groom Raj Bawa. Both can seam the ball.. Venky Iyer can't land the ball on Seam so he can't be considered. Or even better, SoS to Hardik Pandya and ensure his availability just for those 2 potential tests. If he does nakhre drop him altogether from all plans. Make clear threats to that prima donna that his future with Indian cricket depends on his availability for 2 tests in Aus. Edited January 5 by Gollum harpicP, Sgattick10 and Lone Wolf 1 2 Link to comment
ravishingravi Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Patidar is indeed best backfoot player in the domestics... Bit of Viru in him. Likes to play in the air. He will be good to have in Australia. Yes, was super impressed with little I saw of him Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 49 minutes ago, Gollum said: Lyon is a great bowler, but because of his line of attack and method of dismissals he needs the rough outside off to work with. He attacks one edge only unlike say Ashwin or Swann who brought both edges into play. That is also why Lyon is weak against LHBs. Swann and Ashwin enjoy(ed) success against LHBs, both prefer to keep ball within stumps...Lyon can't do that because he doesn't have a good arm ball as well. Someone finally put some respect on swans name. Guy is so underrated. Graeme Swan was one of the finest spinners of the modern era. He also was a good bat. He was instrumental in beating India in India which is like the hardest place to tour. Granted we were at our weakest state in 2012 but to this day if you ask KP or Swan or Strauss, they would still proudly state that winning a series in india was their greatest moment in test cricket along with the ashes win in Australia. Most great teams generally cant win an away series against top 4 test nations unless those nations are going through a transition phase, have an injury crisis or issues with respect to internal politics etc. West indies of 80s were the only exception as they had the tools to dominate in any era. Although, a case could be made against them in terms of the competition they faced as most sub continent teams barring Pakistan at the time were unprofessional units. In saying that, they maintained their insane level of dominance across eras so that theory is questionable. Gollum 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I feel when we tour aus this time it will be a close series but we will lose for sure. Law of averages will catch up. We do up the intensity vs them though so let's see. I believe 3-1 Aussies. 5 test tours always will favour home teams. 4 can go either way. 3-2 at best I would say. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 Total of 15 wickets fell today. So many wickets usually don't fall on the same day on any pitch in Aus. Link to comment
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Kya kufr 17 baar Jeet paayega Link to comment
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