G_B_ Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The ball will get older and it will get harder to bat. The slower you play at number 3 or 4 A) you put pressure on your lower middle order B) allow English inexperienced spinners to gain confidence and put more people in catching positions. India should consider demoting Patidar. This momentum sucker will cause issues down steam. Promote Sarfaraz and Jurel to face the ball when its relatively hard. Knowing how tactically poor Dravid is, it wont happen Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 To add to the above. India need to maintain a rr of 4 or above. England will be forced to attack. Plenty of gaps. Put away the bad balls. Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, G_B_ said: The ball will get older and it will get harder to bat. The slower you play at number 3 or 4 A) you put pressure on your lower middle order B) allow English inexperienced spinners to gain confidence and put more people in catching positions. India should consider demoting Patidar. This momentum sucker will cause issues down steam. Promote Sarfaraz and Jurel to face the ball when its relatively hard. Knowing how tactically poor Dravid is, it wont happen indeed, it is a good idea to have the fast scorers come up the order. this would be my lineup for the 4th innings: 1. rohit 2. jaiswal 3. gill 4. sarfaraz 5. jurel 6. jadeja 7. Patidar 8. akash deep [I would use him as a floater, and tell him to slog a few if needed] 9. patidar 10. kuldeep G_B_ 1 Link to comment
Sandz Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 minutes ago, Vijy said: indeed, it is a good idea to have the fast scorers come up the order. this would be my lineup for the 4th innings: 1. rohit 2. jaiswal 3. gill 4. sarfaraz 5. jurel 6. jadeja 7. Patidar 8. akash deep [I would use him as a floater, and tell him to slog a few if needed] 9. patidar 10. kuldeep I know you like Patidar a lot but he can’t bat twice, not that it’ll make any difference but still Chaos, nevada, raki05 and 6 others 9 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I obviously dont want them slogging but 2-3 single per over is fine Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, Sandz said: I know you like Patidar a lot but he can’t bat twice, not that it’ll make any difference but still Haha, good point. He should be given an extra innings to show how bad he is. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, jf1gp_1 said: I obviously dont want them slogging but 2-3 single per over is fine no need to slog, but they should put the bad balls away for 4s/6s. root, in particular, will bowl some such deliveries jf1gp_1 1 Link to comment
Sandz Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) I’ll happily take an average 32 from Gill tomorrow , any runs from Patidar are bonus Edited February 25 by Sandz Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, Sandz said: I’ll happily take an average 32 from Gill tomorrow , any runs from Patidar are bonus Gill usually does score 20s and 30s. I feel the crucial players tomorrow will be jaiswal (again), sarfaraz (if he can bat as he did in 1st test), jurel, Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 I doubt singles are going to be much on offer. There will be 7 to 8 inside the circle. 1/2 outside for the misplaced slog. If I am Stokes i want indian batters to take undue risks or play maidens. Link to comment
Serpico Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 14 minutes ago, G_B_ said: I doubt singles are going to be much on offer. There will be 7 to 8 inside the circle. 1/2 outside for the misplaced slog. If I am Stokes i want indian batters to take undue risks or play maidens. Stokes already gave up today. McCullum need to cook some strategy tonight because stokes isn't good at defending low targets Link to comment
Serpico Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Akash deep has an 18 ball 50 in first class. Send him after 1st wicket, a quickfire 20-30 will put stokes on backfoot early on nevada 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 minute ago, Serpico said: Stokes already gave up today. McCullum need to cook some strategy tonight because stokes isn't good at defending low targets BMAc wasn't much of a tactician either in his playing days. it was mostly the approach of "go hard, and if it doesn't work, go harder" sensible-indian, express bowling and raki05 2 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, Serpico said: Akash deep has an 18 ball 50 in first class. Send him after 1st wicket, a quickfire 20-30 will put stokes on backfoot early on yep, use him as a floater and ask him to slog freely Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 20 minutes ago, Vijy said: BMAc wasn't much of a tactician either in his playing days. it was mostly the approach of "go hard, and if it doesn't work, go harder" It was a mistake not to bowl anderson and robinson. Just to soften the new ball. If you look at England selection, truth is one pacer was enough. An additional batter was needed. Robinson worked out with the bat though. Link to comment
lemsip Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 They should have a left/right combo at the crease as much as possible to force the bowlers to constantly keep switching lines and most of the English bowlers don't have enough experience to do that consistently and the buffet ball will come. Also playing on the front foot and strike rotation are musts on this wicket. The game can turn very rapidly on this pitch as happened with the English innings so need to keep the runs flowing as much as possible. They should score as much as they can manage in the first hour as it gets a lot harder as the ball gets soft. express bowling 1 Link to comment
figo6762 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, Vijy said: indeed, it is a good idea to have the fast scorers come up the order. this would be my lineup for the 4th innings: 1. rohit 2. jaiswal 3. gill 4. sarfaraz 5. jurel 6. jadeja 7. Patidar 8. akash deep [I would use him as a floater, and tell him to slog a few if needed] 9. patidar 10. kuldeep I would honestly put Kuldeep way up in the order so he can block one end … insurance policy for brain farts that may happen on both ends Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, figo6762 said: I would honestly put Kuldeep way up in the order so he can block one end … insurance policy for brain farts that may happen on both ends sounds a good plan as well. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Patidar is not wristy like Sarfrazn. He is leadedn footed and uses just his hands through the ball. He is a walking wicket even in slightly challenging conditions. On a road with nothing to lose he can slog a few. Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Patidar is not wristy like Sarfrazn. He is leadedn footed and uses just his hands through the ball. He is a walking wicket even in slightly challenging conditions. On a road with nothing to lose he can slog a few. even sarfaraz seems much better suited for pattas. should rejig order and have best batters up the order Link to comment
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