Vijy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 3/1/2024 at 4:01 AM, express bowling said: Superb post ! Agree with most things you say. This Indian team has been very mediocre in ODIs and T20Is in the last 10 years. In this period we have played in 3 ODI WCs and 5 T20 WCs and not a single win in a sport with only 5 or 6 good teams. But this team has been genetally good in test matches. Away test series wins against big teams is the main thing in test cricket and we have defeated Australia twice in their own backyard in the last 5 years. This is something special ! And there have been 2 drawn away series in England and SA. Should have won in England if the series was completed in 2021 itself. Defeating big teams consistently in home test series adds to this legacy. But the legacy of this Indian team in test cricket has been affected by 2 losses in 2 WTC Finals. This must be rectified if this Test Team wants to reach Elite level. yes, we had a good test team, particularly during the Kohli era. it is also equally true that we had a skillful ODI squad, but a mentally weak one express bowling 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 As per latest FTP, England will host WTC finals in 2025, '27 and '29. 6 straight WTC finals, even in ODI WC they stopped at 3. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: As per latest FTP, England will host WTC finals in 2025, '27 and '29. 6 straight WTC finals, even in ODI WC they stopped at 3. might as well as call it ETC: eng test championship express bowling and Gollum 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 BCCICC is such a myth. ECB and CA run circles around our dehati clowns in things which actually matter. AuxiliA, Vijy and Kron 1 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 17 minutes ago, Gollum said: BCCICC is such a myth. ECB and CA run circles around our dehati clowns in things which actually matter. BCCI is quite weak actually Link to comment
BlueBlood Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 hours ago, Gollum said: As per latest FTP, England will host WTC finals in 2025, '27 and '29. 6 straight WTC finals, even in ODI WC they stopped at 3. But would you complain if India actually won the 2 WTC in England? No. We didn't even lose with home team but lost against NZ and Aus both playing in foreign conditions. It's always excuses why team can't win a single cup. With only 2-4 elite teams now based on form, we are always going to be in semis or finals. It's ridiculous that India is not dominating across all formats and in all locations like ATG Aus team. It's just that in finals, the level of intensity required is just not there. Look at all elite players, they step up in championships. For some reason stat padders fail consistently and that too without even putting up a proper fight. It's saddening to see the posts these days here self congratulating a team that just cannot win in finals even with all the money, skills, raw talent and lack of good quality opponents. Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, BlueBlood said: But would you complain if India actually won the 2 WTC in England? No. We didn't even lose with home team but lost against NZ and Aus both playing in foreign conditions. It's always excuses why team can't win a single cup. With only 2-4 elite teams now based on form, we are always going to be in semis or finals. It's ridiculous that India is not dominating across all formats and in all locations like ATG Aus team. It's just that in finals, the level of intensity required is just not there. Look at all elite players, they step up in championships. For some reason stat padders fail consistently and that too without even putting up a proper fight. It's saddening to see the posts these days here self congratulating a team that just cannot win in finals even with all the money, skills, raw talent and lack of good quality opponents. why shouldn't one complain if all WTCs are in Eng? If all ODI WCs are at home, they would improve the odds of winning 1 of them... it would still remain unfair Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 hours ago, Gollum said: BCCICC is such a myth. ECB and CA run circles around our dehati clowns in things which actually matter. Unless BCCI brings this up nobody is going to talk on behalf of them. If INdia and AUstralia finish top 2 they should take a stance. Link to comment
Kron Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 8 hours ago, Gollum said: BCCICC is such a myth. ECB and CA run circles around our dehati clowns in things which actually matter. Who said our dehati clowns care about winning WTC or world cup? As long as coffers are full they dont care Link to comment
Kron Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, BlueBlood said: But would you complain if India actually won the 2 WTC in England? No. We didn't even lose with home team but lost against NZ and Aus both playing in foreign conditions. It's always excuses why team can't win a single cup. With only 2-4 elite teams now based on form, we are always going to be in semis or finals. It's ridiculous that India is not dominating across all formats and in all locations like ATG Aus team. It's just that in finals, the level of intensity required is just not there. Look at all elite players, they step up in championships. For some reason stat padders fail consistently and that too without even putting up a proper fight. It's saddening to see the posts these days here self congratulating a team that just cannot win in finals even with all the money, skills, raw talent and lack of good quality opponents. I watched this netflix series. Nfl related. One athlete despite grest performances in league stages gets dropped by his own dad who is coach for the last 3 Knock out games in semis finals etc cause his dad felt he cant handle pressure well. Own dad. Yet we cannot drop our untouchables like kohli rahul rohit in pressure games despite repeat failure in semis and finals One event 2 event fails ok. 3 to 6 events still failing in semis and finals? Why cant tey get dropped? Why? Cause of our brainless fans who idolize them. express bowling and BlueBlood 1 1 Link to comment
Kron Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 55 minutes ago, Vijy said: why shouldn't one complain if all WTCs are in Eng? If all ODI WCs are at home, they would improve the odds of winning 1 of them... it would still remain unfair Its also money Pounds so more income. India dont sell as much. Doesnt generate enough revenue. Australia would be a good destination though. Generates good revenye. Why not there? Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 Great way to wrap the season. BD, NZ next bali ke bakres in 2024-25 season, streak will extend to 19. After that, WI, RSA and the big one BGT 2027. Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gollum said: Great way to wrap the season. BD, NZ next bali ke bakres in 2024-25 season, streak will extend to 19. After that, WI, RSA and the big one BGT 2027. Feel the streak might end against some no mark team from whom nothing much is expected in a shortened series which won't allow us to come back. Something like a 1 match series against Agg or 2 match series against toyger s. Similar to how saf lost in those slow pitches in a 2 test series against SL. Lol. Edited March 9 by rollingstoned Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 10 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: Feel the streak might end against some no mark team from whom nothing much is expected in a shortened series which won't allow us to come back. Something like a 1 match series against Agg or 2 match series against toyger s. Similar to how saf lost in those slow pitches in a 2 test series against SL. Lol. Better we play 3 test series min. One test against Afghans is a joke, what if weather plays spoilsport and we only get a draw rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Even the great Aus team would look like missing bench strength the moment McGrath didn't play the series. Tillu and Gollum 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: Even the great Aus team would look like missing bench strength the moment McGrath didn't play the series. There is no better home team than India .They would crush any team here. Gollum 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 we need some loses,at this rate icf will be dead. Link to comment
deathmonger Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gollum said: Great way to wrap the season. BD, NZ next bali ke bakres in 2024-25 season, streak will extend to 19. After that, WI, RSA and the big one BGT 2027. should win that easily. 2021-23 ind was rebuilding with all middle order out of form/aging but managed to win the series. this is similar to the 2011-13 period. 2027 gill, pant, jaiswal, kuldeep will all be in prime. plus bumrah too. Edited March 9 by deathmonger Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 (edited) Our people are such self-hating, inferiority complex ridden chewtiyas that they will call these pitches dustbowls, rank turners, doctored pitches in 2 weeks time. Just like how they call ALL Indian pitches from 2011-23 doctored. For them even 2012/16 NZ, 2016 Eng, 2017 SL, 2019 RSA pitches are doctored despite them being the highest scoring run fests, green tops etc. Even if match gets over in 1 day in RSA, NZ, Aus, Eng, it will be sporting pitch. Edited March 9 by Gollum AuxiliA, express bowling and Tillu 3 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Gollum said: Our people are such self-hating, inferiority complex ridden chewtiyas that they will call these pitches dustbowls, rank turners, doctored pitches in 2 weeks time. Just like how they call ALL Indian pitches from 2011-23 doctored. For them even 2012/16 NZ, 2016 Eng, 2017 SL, 2019 RSA pitches are doctored despite them being the highest scoring run fests, green tops etc. Even if match gets over in 1 day in RSA, NZ, Aus, Eng, it will be sporting pitch. Pitch doctoring has little to do with actual pitch doctoring but is a function of the result of the match. If India loses its a sporting wicket, if they win it's a doctored dust bowl. Padosis use this kind of mind numbing and contradictory logic to dismiss simultaneously Kohli, india and Ashwins achievements by claiming that the pitches change from Flat to rank turner within the same match depending on how they wish to cope. Edited March 9 by rollingstoned express bowling, Tillu and Gollum 3 Link to comment
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