coffee_rules Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 10:21 AM, MediumPacer said: Is he getting paid by hindu nationalists or animal right activists Idiot. Lahori logic? You can get your protein from non-meat sources Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 10:43 AM, Kron said: Some people get thrill out of claiming to be something they are not because it makes them more popular with fans. So mayank could just be sayings things like he is a vegetarian to Garner attention as people would gravitate towards the fact that someone has managed to achieve the impossible despite lacking in terms of diet as vegetarian diets generally aren't ideal for sports. To, you are his chaddi dost to know all this! Kron 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 13 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Wasn't Srinath a vegetarian? Zak is a meat eater, he was a trundler in comparison to Srinath. All his life Srinath was a vegetarian. Once he was bowling past 150s in mid-90s , he was recommended to eat meat to sustain the pace. He started eating chicken later. There is no natural pace for vegetarians or non-vegetarians. It is all natural strength they are gifted with. tweaker and singhvivek141 2 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 34 minutes ago, Sandz said: Was Krishna vegetarian? He was definitely not vegan . Saala makkhan chor. He was a kshtriya (Yadavs were UCs then and became OBCs now) , so would/could have eaten meat. Certainly not a beef eater as he was a gwal by his adopted father’s profession. (Cowherd). No mention of his eat-habits in the Vyasbharata , but going by his childhood days practices, certainly wouldn’t have have eaten meat . Link to comment
diga Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Yep.. Venky Prasad, Prasidh Krishna & Srinath are all vegetarians by birth coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
Kron Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Abdul Razzaq had a spinach diet. He was called Popeye. Sure he did Link to comment
New guy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 5 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Idiot. Lahori logic? You can get your protein from non-meat sources But it's no where near as efficient or tasty as non veg sources. Edited April 6 by New guy Gollum 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) On 4/4/2024 at 8:23 PM, vvvslaxman said: But whey is superior. Even meat eaters depend on it. Whey is a supplement, not normal food. You need to grow up on protein rich food right from childhood to be strong, supplements etc will come later to reach optimum strength and add on top of diet after you already have a strong normal body . And best and most efficient source of that is non veg food, not to mention really tasty so you can eat a lot of it. Edited April 6 by New guy Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 You don't get full amino acid profile from veg protein sources. Creatine supplement has helped me build muscle mass. New guy, Kron and Trichromatic 1 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gollum said: You don't get full amino acid profile from veg protein sources. Creatine supplement has helped me build muscle mass. Creatine is an amazing supplement and it's more beneficial with age. It's one of those everyone should take, it's delays aging and is good for both body and brain. The only slight side effect I notice is water bloating. Edited April 6 by New guy Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Djokovic lost two years of his prime(late 2016 till mid '18) because of his turn to vegetarian diet (advised by his guru Pepe Imaz). It reached a crisis point where his coach Vajda refused to train him till he at least started eating fish. During that phase, Djokovic somewhat maintained his stamina, speed with his veg diet but power and depth of groundstrokes was gone. Luckily good sense prevailed and he went back to eating meat to supplement his plant based diet. Power returned in his game and he hit another peak in 2019-23 in his mind 30s. Athletes usually have a 5-10 years window (not talking about exceptions) and it is silly to get swayed by fads and idealism like veganism or whatever in that short time period. Link to comment
Gollum Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) You all need to see what vegetarianism did to Siddle's pace, and career. Our golden boy Neeraj Chopra was a kattar vegetarian till 2016 (World Junior championship). After that when he started training with the best in the world, he turned to eating meat. Now a proper non-veg guy, while his entire family is veg. Biomechanically, fast bowling is closest to javelin. Edited April 6 by Gollum Kron 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 12 minutes ago, Gollum said: You all need to see what vegetarianism did to Siddle's pace, and career. Our golden boy Neeraj Chopra was a kattar vegetarian till 2016 (World Junior championship). After that when he started training with the best in the world, he turned to eating meat. Now a proper non-veg guy, while his entire family is veg. Biomechanically, fast bowling is closest to javelin. Is meat necessary or eggs are enough for protein? Link to comment
Gollum Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 13 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Is meat necessary or eggs are enough for protein? Meat is better because it gives the full profile of proteins as well as other important stuff like all B vitamins. Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Gollum said: You don't get full amino acid profile from veg protein sources. Creatine supplement has helped me build muscle mass. That Netflix documentary Game changers and one other one debunked this by citing studies which proved that this is outdated nutritional advice. It includes this bit about the amino acids which is often cited which also comes from plants much like b12. This is not even going into Plenty of lacto veg and vegan body builders to go around but supplements help mainly in recovery, not building mass. It's a way to speed up/expedite the process, not necessary in and of itself to achieve it. Gollum 1 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Djokovic lost two years of his prime(late 2016 till mid '18) because of his turn to vegetarian diet (advised by his guru Pepe Imaz). It reached a crisis point where his coach Vajda refused to train him till he at least started eating fish. During that phase, Djokovic somewhat maintained his stamina, speed with his veg diet but power and depth of groundstrokes was gone. Luckily good sense prevailed and he went back to eating meat to supplement his plant based diet. Power returned in his game and he hit another peak in 2019-23 in his mind 30s. Athletes usually have a 5-10 years window (not talking about exceptions) and it is silly to get swayed by fads and idealism like veganism or whatever in that short time period. Djokovic as of 2023 wimby said he was still vegan and ate fish only occassionally and cut out red meat completely. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-12282771/Novak-Djokovic-plant-based-vegan-diet.html Kron and Gollum 1 1 Link to comment
Kron Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 7 hours ago, diga said: Yep.. Venky Prasad, Prasidh Krishna & Srinath are all vegetarians by birth That's why they couldn't dominate like donald Pollock, Walsh bishop and mcgrath Lee Gillespie etc Link to comment
Kron Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, Gollum said: You don't get full amino acid profile from veg protein sources. Creatine supplement has helped me build muscle mass. 100%. Without meat you don't get access to all amino acids. They can substitute with whey or fake meat all they want but it will never be the same. Sorry. This is truth. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Kron Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 53 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: Djokovic as of 2023 wimby said he was still vegan and ate fish only occassionally and cut out red meat completely. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-12282771/Novak-Djokovic-plant-based-vegan-diet.html But fish is great source of protein. Eggs too. As long as they get 2 of those it's fine. Vegetarian athletes no matter what people say are at a huge disadvantage. 100% Link to comment
Kron Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 That shows you how good srinath could have really been had he adopted a proper diet incorporating all kinds of meat protein Gollum 1 Link to comment
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