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AKane Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) See this caveat though in the article about Mayank I posted before "He is with (assistant coach) Lance Klusener and the rest of the guys in Lucknow, training and getting ready. So I think, anything from the next game onwards, we'll look to bring him back in," he added. So it can be next game but it can be say 3 games from next game too... that is what "anything" and "onwards" means. He also started bowling 3 or 4 days ago.... so it was a good 12+ day break in between. Edited April 23 by AKane tapandrun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 It was something more than soreness? Nearly 2 weeks off. AKane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, AKane said: Mayank has not travelled with LSG and will not play April 23. Now Mayank will supposedly play on Apr 27. "Lucknow Super Giants are planning to bring back pace sensation Mayank Yadav in their next IPL fixture at home against Rajasthan Royals on April 27, bowling coach Morne Morkel revealed here on Monday." https://sports.ndtv.com/ipl-2024/revealed-date-of-return-for-indias-156-7-kmph-pacer-mayank-yadavafter-injury-scare-in-ipl-2024-5499968 all smoke and mirrors and speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 3 hours ago, Kron said: Bro can you explain why our commies and many of the causal fans keep underrated our pacers even when thy are quick? Why do they have that mentality still despite us having one of the best attacks in tests and odi for quite some time now? It is ridiculous the amount of self hate I see. And the sycophantic behaviour towards their white masters is sickening lol. And then you have Aussies hyping this fodder named Spencer as 150 lmao barely touches 146. Ans then paks overeating every street bowler. Murli Karthick's commentary yesterday was a classic example. He was very very very excited seeing Coetzee bowling 140 k to 151 k. Even though he gave away 16 runs in that over. Kept mentioning his pace with excitement after every ball and even when he stopped bowling. ( It's true that Coetzee was bowling with fire and was great to watch ) But when Indian bowls with extra pace or fire then Murli either ignores it or comes up with cliches if runs are being scored or just polite mention of speeds if he is bowling really well. The difference in excitement and interest level is palpable. tweaker, cricspirit, Suhaan and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kron Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 7 hours ago, Vijy said: they are bootlickers in every way. for example, subhash gupte was better than benaud as a bowler, and yet latter was far more highly popularized by whiteys. no matter how well our bowlers do, they are seen as second rate. for too long, we have been seen as a batting team, and especially because of our minimal pace bowling culture up to 2010s, this aspect was even more poorly recognized But things change in a year. Look at Belgium in hockey. So they need to accept reality. India has the best bowling attack for tests and odi for quite some time especially when we select our best bowlers. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kron Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Murli Karthick's commentary yesterday was a classic example. He was very very very excited seeing Coetzee bowling 140 k to 151 k. Even though he gave away 16 runs in that over. Kept mentioning his pace with excitement after every ball and even when he stopped bowling. ( It's true that Coetzee was bowling with fire and was great to watch ) But when Indian bowls with extra pace or fire then Murli either ignores it or comes up with cliches if runs are being scored or just polite mention of speeds if he is bowling really well. The difference in excitement and interest level is palpable. Yea no idea why. Our batting is crap. Our bowling is the reason why we were number 1 in tests for 5 years straight etc. Even now our bowling is the reason why we beat England at home. Our pacers actually. Akashdeep and bumrah played extremely well. Only siraj faltered. If shami played they would have routed England 5 0. raki05 and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 11 hours ago, Vijy said: all smoke and mirrors and speculation just like Pandya was supposed to play Ned game in WC. Turned out well raki05, Vijy and AKane 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Only reason LSG looked good. All the other Indian reps of LSG crap. Pooran and Stoinis are the stars besides Mayank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 19 hours ago, Vijy said: they are bootlickers in every way. for example, subhash gupte was better than benaud as a bowler, and yet latter was far more highly popularized by whiteys. no matter how well our bowlers do, they are seen as second rate. for too long, we have been seen as a batting team, and especially because of our minimal pace bowling culture up to 2010s, this aspect was even more poorly recognized You see this with the way they rate the best batsman since the Don and maybe even best ever, when all things are considered : tendy. People forget, that he debuted as a 16 year old in a day and age where 4-5 people in the whole world averaged 45+ in tests and did pretty decently - 35+ average. He was a precocious talent, but not an actual God- the reason you give a 16 year old high flyer a chance is not because they will make 500 runs in a series, but so that they can adjust to the new level by the time they are 18-19 and you get a longer period of 'top echelon' performance. And yes, he hung on a wee bit too long (nothing like Ponting or Atherton though) and spoilt his stats a bit. But look closely and you see, the moment he hit his stride, within a few years of debut, for the next 20 years, he scored 12000 runs at 60 average ( just a shade under, its 59+). Look at smith now - supposedly the greatest batsman of his generation, without question,blahblah, but even he is nowhere close to the performance and durability of the great one and is virtual guarantee to get to 12K with an average no greater than 55 at best. even for the best of the best non gora, there will be some 'yes but' caveat. JaFanatic, raki05, Vijy and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, Muloghonto said: You see this with the way they rate the best batsman since the Don and maybe even best ever, when all things are considered : tendy. People forget, that he debuted as a 16 year old in a day and age where 4-5 people in the whole world averaged 45+ in tests and did pretty decently - 35+ average. He was a precocious talent, but not an actual God- the reason you give a 16 year old high flyer a chance is not because they will make 500 runs in a series, but so that they can adjust to the new level by the time they are 18-19 and you get a longer period of 'top echelon' performance. And yes, he hung on a wee bit too long (nothing like Ponting or Atherton though) and spoilt his stats a bit. But look closely and you see, the moment he hit his stride, within a few years of debut, for the next 20 years, he scored 12000 runs at 60 average ( just a shade under, its 59+). Look at smith now - supposedly the greatest batsman of his generation, without question,blahblah, but even he is nowhere close to the performance and durability of the great one and is virtual guarantee to get to 12K with an average no greater than 55 at best. even for the best of the best non gora, there will be some 'yes but' caveat. oh here comes the elon musk of cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Chaos said: oh here comes the elon musk of cricket I am the richest cricketer ever who turned into a oddball opinionist ? i wish ! New guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 hours ago, Muloghonto said: You see this with the way they rate the best batsman since the Don and maybe even best ever, when all things are considered : tendy. People forget, that he debuted as a 16 year old in a day and age where 4-5 people in the whole world averaged 45+ in tests and did pretty decently - 35+ average. He was a precocious talent, but not an actual God- the reason you give a 16 year old high flyer a chance is not because they will make 500 runs in a series, but so that they can adjust to the new level by the time they are 18-19 and you get a longer period of 'top echelon' performance. And yes, he hung on a wee bit too long (nothing like Ponting or Atherton though) and spoilt his stats a bit. But look closely and you see, the moment he hit his stride, within a few years of debut, for the next 20 years, he scored 12000 runs at 60 average ( just a shade under, its 59+). Look at smith now - supposedly the greatest batsman of his generation, without question,blahblah, but even he is nowhere close to the performance and durability of the great one and is virtual guarantee to get to 12K with an average no greater than 55 at best. even for the best of the best non gora, there will be some 'yes but' caveat. I think Tendu had some easy pitches in 00s, which smith did not. that being said, SRT absolutely does have a case for being one of the GOATs post-WW2. the greatest defensive batter I saw (also a GOAT candidate, though no one will acknowledge it) was barrington, though I didn't see him live. in terms of more attacking batters, the field is wider: includes graeme pollock, sir garry, SRT, smith, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 11 hours ago, Lord said: just like Pandya was supposed to play Ned game in WC. Turned out well super well Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 18 hours ago, Kron said: But things change in a year. Look at Belgium in hockey. So they need to accept reality. India has the best bowling attack for tests and odi for quite some time especially when we select our best bowlers. nah, whiteys don't need to - and won't - accept stuff that contradicts their worldview Kron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kron Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Vijy said: nah, whiteys don't need to - and won't - accept stuff that contradicts their worldview I am talking about our own commies lol and indian casual fans itself. They are unwilling to accept the reality that India has the best bowling attack at full strength. Look at Pakistan. They always promote and hype their fast bowlers. So whiteys keep believing in their hype about how fast pak bowlers are based on past reputation. Our own people stop undermining our quality bowlers, only then we will be able to see some radical changes in the mentality of whiteys. To be fair most whiteys acknowledge the quality of Indian quicks. Even the ever hateful Michael holding begrudgingly rates our test and odi attack. It's the sycophantic indian casuals that need to change their attitude. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Vijy said: I think Tendu had some easy pitches in 00s, which smith did not. that being said, SRT absolutely does have a case for being one of the GOATs post-WW2. the greatest defensive batter I saw (also a GOAT candidate, though no one will acknowledge it) was barrington, though I didn't see him live. in terms of more attacking batters, the field is wider: includes graeme pollock, sir garry, SRT, smith, etc. smith has easy pitches in Australia - the pitches in India and south africa have gotten tougher to bat on than the 00s but not Australia. Besides, tendu had far tougher pitches and far tougher bowling in the 90s. he isnt one of the goats, he is the goat. the statistics, the longetivity and his ability to score anywhere establishes that with a shadow of doubt. his only challenger was Lara but Lara would've had to have had another 5-7 years of his peak days to be in the same ballpark. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kron Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: smith has easy pitches in Australia - the pitches in India and south africa have gotten tougher to bat on than the 00s but not Australia. Besides, tendu had far tougher pitches and far tougher bowling in the 90s. he isnt one of the goats, he is the goat. the statistics, the longetivity and his ability to score anywhere establishes that with a shadow of doubt. his only challenger was Lara but Lara would've had to have had another 5-7 years of his peak days to be in the same ballpark. Bowling was tougher only cause rules favoured bowlers in 90s. Bowling is high quality in post 2014 era too. Also drs has changed the game. But u expect tenda in this team of kohlis peak india or even now to average 55 to 60. Especially with India's brutal bowling attack. Edited April 24 by Kron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Kron said: Bowling was tougher only cause rules favoured bowlers in 90s. thats irrelevant to the batsman. And i dont think rules favoured the bowlers in tests in the 90s, where there were significantly more # of world class bowlers than now 1 hour ago, Kron said: Bowling is high quality in post 2014 era too. Not high enough compared to the 90s. 1 hour ago, Kron said: Also drs has changed the game. But u expect tenda in this team of kohlis peak india or even now to average 55 to 60. Especially with India's brutal bowling attack. If tendya can average 60+ in a decade where only two others averaged 50+ ( Lara and Steve Waugh), he can average 60+ in a decade where more than half a dozen players average 50+ He is by far the best batsman i've seen and the gap between him and #2 ( Lara) is wider than the gap between #2 and #10 raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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