Luck reversal for India?

[Chakdephatte]

I usually don't look forward to in ICC tournaments where we don't start as favourites. Since 2014, our last win, we were favorites (for me) and played like favourites on only two occasions. Rest of the time, we juat about manage to get into semis and get the worst of conditions against a superior opponent. 

 

Let that be 2019 semis, a rain interrupted match where they got the best of conditions, or 2022 T20 at Adelaide, a high scoring ground where we bumbed into England's power hitters, or two WTC finals in English conditions against SENA opponents. 

 

This is one tournament where I didn't expect us to be as good as we have been earlier, mostly because I thought the conditions would not favour us. So far, luck seems to favour us, even against better teams... 

 

[Chakdephatte]

Firstly, we have got at least two players (Jadeja and Rohit) who shouldn't have been there. But they came out rather well. 

 

The lack of a pace hitter was supposedly a problem for us but all other teams struggled with same because of the surfaces. 

 

Hardik Pandya, somehow, just somehow, started batting like his lld self. Shocking improvement on many fronts. 

 

Then Arshdeep, who was not pitching it up in IPL to use the swimg at display suddenly getting everything right. (Maybe it was something with Punjab coaching staff). 

 

The pitches I thought would make our life difficult actually proved lucky for us, our bowlers have been wonderful. But batsmen's willingness to take risks, has not backfired, so far. 

 

And now the best thing is that we meet England at Guyana. Our spinners are going to stiffle and break England's middle order, we only need to get Salt out early. One of the venues where we have better chances against England, my pre-tournament favourites. And if it's washed out, we are in finals. 

 

Bottom line is, India has been very predictable in most tournaments. This tournament failed most of our predictions, we are having Australia level luck already. Just need it for two more matches, in best, just one match. 

Edited June 25, 2024 by Chakdephatte

[vvvslaxman]

Repeating here

 

Removal of KL was all that needed?  As far as I know only who was never part of any ICC tournament win is Rahul. Even his u19 batch was horrible.  Is he the true panauti. We have to wait and see.

[Forever Indian]

Same can be said about the ODI World cup in 2023. We were not favourites and most expected us to reach semis at best, but we steam rolled every team on the way to Final.

 

And then come Final, we had one average match and handed over Cup to Australia.

 

So, anything can happen over next two Knockouts. It is important to keep intensity up and be well prepared for all scenarios....  (we were not good at reading pitch for Finals, where Cummins used his cutters very well to get our batsmen out)

Edited June 25, 2024 by Forever Indian

[vvvslaxman]

By the way Kela has not won any IPL either. May be husr ream won Ranji trophy at best

[Lord]

Yeah I also feel we might go all the way. But still not hyped about it.

 

This is a boring and utterly forgettable tourney at best comparable to CT 13

[DeepSpace]

This is as far as we will go. Knock out by Inglaterra looming!

[cricketfan28]

I hope ipl sooperstars win something atleast for the sake of ipl. South Africa also will not be supporting us ..very sad.

[cricketfan28]

4 minutes ago, DeepSpace said:

This is as far as we will go. Knock out by Inglaterra looming!

What about rain bro ..can we survive?

[Chaos]

4 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

I usually don't look forward to in ICC tournaments where we don't start as favourites. Since 2014, our last win, we were favorites (for me) and played like favourites on only two occasions. Rest of the time, we juat about manage to get into semis and get the worst of conditions against a superior opponent. 

 

Let that be 2019 semis, a rain interrupted match where they got the best of conditions, or 2022 T20 at Adelaide, a high scoring ground where we bumbed into England's power hitters, or two WTC finals in English conditions against SENA opponents. 

 

This is one tournament where I didn't expect us to be as good as we have been earlier, mostly because I thought the conditions would not favour us. So far, luck seems to favour us, even against better teams... 

 

u will be banned if u jinxed us…

[srgadjon]

Big lesson learned fron previous failures, they decided to focus on more depth in batting and bowling. India at least on paper, have batting till 8 which will allows top order to bat more freely. Also have 6 bowling options without counting Dube, so if one bowler has a day off, there will be others to make up and also more options to rotate the bowlers.

[StraightDrive26]

13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Repeating here

 

Removal of KL was all that needed?  As far as I know only who was never part of any ICC tournament win is Rahul. Even his u19 batch was horrible.  Is he the true panauti. We have to wait and see.

And Bhuvi, he should have never been in the 2022 T20 WC Squad.

[vvvslaxman]

26 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said:

And Bhuvi, he should have never been in the 2022 T20 WC Squad.

Atleast Bhuvi was part of CT win. IPL win. But this dude is elite panauti

 

[cpct]

We are winning matches because of blessings of our bastard and *ing Indian Cricket Fans Who never looses any hopes of Winning any Icc Tournaments.

[deathmonger]

6 hours ago, StraightDrive26 said:

And Bhuvi, he should have never been in the 2022 T20 WC Squad.

2022 squad was ****.

 

ashwin, karthik, bhuvi/shami. only good thing was discovery of arshdeep.

 

kuldeep, pant, bumrah are way better upgrades.

[Chakdephatte]

LOL! 

What a luck. 

Nevertheless, a trophy after long. 

[Sean Bradley]

Shivam dube lucky charm 

[Kron]

What luck?

 

We beat every top side

 

Full effort. Deserved champions. 

 

With one day less rest too

 

Bumrah and arshdeep swung the game in our favour when you are 4 down, you are essentially one wicket away from tail. 

[Chakdephatte]

16 minutes ago, Kron said:

What luck?

 

We beat every top side

 

Full effort. Deserved champions. 

 

With one day less rest too

 

Bumrah and arshdeep swung the game in our favour when you are 4 down, you are essentially one wicket away from tail. 

By luck, I mean not having a trophy in last 11 years. Too many times we have got close but ended up losing to inferior sides. 

[Number]

On 6/25/2024 at 8:26 PM, vvvslaxman said:

Repeating here

 

Removal of KL was all that needed?  As far as I know only who was never part of any ICC tournament win is Rahul. Even his u19 batch was horrible.  Is he the true panauti. We have to wait and see.

Looks like the most apt observation now. Lol