Can BCCI field two teams officially ?

[singhvivek141]

Considering the huge population of a cricket players in our country. With the current one team setup, not every player is able to get their rightful chance in the playing XI.

 

Can BCCI take a recommendation to ICC to start fielding two teams officially. Other team can be renamed as "Bharat" and it can consist of the players who are unable to break in the main "Indian" team due to various factors.

 

Think otherwise, there are hardly few teams which are competitive. Ind, Aus, Eng, NZ & SA.

We don't play with Pakistan and currently their standard is no better than Bangladesh. Teams like SL, WI aren't coming up anymore with good players and are basically format/condition based teams just like Afghanistan.

[rkt.india]

At least in T20s.

[Gollum]

No. Just like Aussies couldn't do it in 90s and 00s. And a host of other countries in other sports. 

 

Dutch women's hockey can field 6 teams and they'll take 1-6 positions in Olympics/WC. Pity they have to contend with just one medal even if they win all their matches by 10-15 goals margin. 

[express bowling]

■    There are so few strong teams that the ICC can allow A-teams of all countries to compete in A-team tournaments of all 3 formats held every year. A ranking will be maintained. 

 

■    The top 2 ranked Teams in each format will be able to compete in senior team matches for the next 1 year in that format.

 

■    For the A-team competition, only players who have played not more than 10 games for LOI formats and not more than 5 tests for 4 day A-team games, will be allowed.

 

■   When the top 2  A-teams compete against senior teams, they can include any player not in the Senior Team squad. 

 

■  This way no preference will be given to India .... but India-A will make it on most occasions due to its strength. Australia-A will play often enough too.

 

■  This will also ensure more A-teams games in a structured manner for all teams in all formats. And improve the overall quality of cricket. 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2024 by express bowling

[MediumPacer]

No,we don't have that many good players.

 

How many test openers do we have or no 3 .or fast bowlers or pace bowling all rounders .Also lots of poor fielders,how many slip catchers or good outfielders do we have and then all these bowlers who can't bat. .

[MediumPacer]

Also dearth of power hitters .

[deepdynamo]

BCCI can seriously think of playing two Indian teams simultaneously esp during the test series. It will give game time and opportunities to so many fringe players.

 

A tri seris between India backups, Scotland and Ireland in UK will be spicy.

 

We did beat SA twice with under par squad both home and away. So safe to say Indian second XI can beat SL, BD, AFG, WI. 

 

[zen]

If you consider the population and the key driver for a sport like cricket, India should be asked to field at least 2 teams (if not more like 4 teams - North, East, South, & West). 

For e.g. the population of UP is similar to Pak’s. 

 

[singhvivek141]

15 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

No,we don't have that many good players.

 

How many test openers do we have or no 3 .or fast bowlers or pace bowling all rounders .Also lots of poor fielders,how many slip catchers or good outfielders do we have and then all these bowlers who can't bat. .

Not including the oldies

Test Openers : Jaiswal, Gill, KL, Ruturaj, Sai Sudharshan, Prithvi Shaw, Anmolpreet, Rohan Kunnummal

 

Fast bowlers : Harshit, Mayank, Tyagi, Mohsin, Mukesh C, Vaibhav Arora, Kaverappa, Sushant, Gurnoor, Yudhvir, Umran, Ashok 

 

Allrounders : Bawa, Nithish, Atit Sheth, Ramandeep, Sanvir

 

I must have missed many names. 

[singhvivek141]

35 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

Also dearth of power hitters .

Tewatia, M Shahrukh, Abhinav Manohar, Sanvir, Ramandeep...there is no dearth.

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Not including the oldies

Test Openers : Jaiswal, Gill, KL, Ruturaj, Sai Sudharshan, Prithvi Shaw, Anmolpreet, Rohan Kunnummal

 

Fast bowlers : Harshit, Mayank, Tyagi, Mohsin, Mukesh C, Vaibhav Arora, Kaverappa, Sushant, Gurnoor, Yudhvir, Umran, Ashok 

 

Allrounders : Bawa, Nithish, Atit Sheth, Ramandeep, Sanvir

 

I must have missed many names. 

 

Pacers .... Kuldeep Sen, Simarjeet Singh. Himanshu Chauhan 

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Tewatia, M Shahrukh, Abhinav Manohar, Sanvir, Ramandeep...there is no dearth.

 

Avinash, Shashank, Samad

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Tewatia, M Shahrukh, Abhinav Manohar, Sanvir, Ramandeep...there is no dearth.

 

List of Indian power-hitters / 6 hitters playing now ....

 

Pant

Hardik

Dube

Jaiswal

Gill

Rohit 

Kishan

Rinku

Samson 

 

 

Avinash

Shashank

Tewatia 

Manohar

Samad

Shahrukh

Ramandeep 

 

and many others 

[MediumPacer]

9 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Not including the oldies

Test Openers : Jaiswal, Gill, KL, Ruturaj, Sai Sudharshan, Prithvi Shaw, Anmolpreet, Rohan Kunnummal

 

Fast bowlers : Harshit, Mayank, Tyagi, Mohsin, Mukesh C, Vaibhav Arora, Kaverappa, Sushant, Gurnoor, Yudhvir, Umran, Ashok 

 

Allrounders : Bawa, Nithish, Atit Sheth, Ramandeep, Sanvir

 

I must have missed many names. 

Such ordinary names,Ruturaj can't even bat at ranji level,you want him as test opener?

 

Gill is a reluctant opener,he knows his limitations.

 

Jaiswal is the best option ,also like to see Sai, maybe kl as well given our limited options.

 

 

Same with pace bowling , mostly average guys.Remains to be seen how likes of umran, mayank,harshit turn out .Lkes of tyagi are gone for good.

 

 

Ramandip and sanvir aren't all rounders.

 

nitish is injury prone but like to see him along with bawa .

 

Atit Seth is like shardul.

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

No. Just like Aussies couldn't do it in 90s and 00s. And a host of other countries in other sports. 

 

Dutch women's hockey can field 6 teams and they'll take 1-6 positions in Olympics/WC. Pity they have to contend with just one medal even if they win all their matches by 10-15 goals margin. 

Hockey still has many serious teams.

Cricket is just declining in terms of overall quality.

[MediumPacer]

22 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Tewatia, M Shahrukh, Abhinav Manohar, Sanvir, Ramandeep...there is no dearth.

Again an ordinary list.

 

tewatia is a placer not power hitter,srk can't face pace bowling. Out of ramandip,Sanvir and manohar I like ramandip,I will give him a go.

 

[singhvivek141]

Just now, MediumPacer said:

Such ordinary names,Ruturaj can't even bat at ranji level,you want him as test opener?

 

Gill is a reluctant opener,he knows his limitations.

 

Jaiswal is the best option ,also like to see Sai, maybe kl as well given our limited options.

 

 

Same with pace bowling , mostly average guys.Remains to be seen how likes of umran, mayank,harshit turn out .Lkes of tyagi are gone for good.

 

 

Ramandip and sanvir aren't all rounders.

 

nitish is injury prone but like to see him along with bawa .

 

Atit Seth is like shardul.

Many of them will be top players for other teams.

 

Ruturaj or KL will be worshipped in a countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, SL, Zimbabwe,WI.

 

Likes of Tyagi, Simarjeet, Himanshu etc can easily find a place in teams like Ireland, Scotland, Bangladesh, Afghanistan who don't have enough fast bowling resources.

 

One Brendon Taylor & Sikandar Raza can uplift the entire standard of Zim. Imagine if they have the players like Sai or Anmolpreet. 

 

 

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

Again an ordinary list.

 

tewatia is a placer not power hitter,srk can't face pace bowling. Out of ramandip,Sanvir and manohar I like ramandip,I will give him a go.

 

Sanvir has T20 SR of 186

Ramandeep has 166.

Manohar SR of 150

[MediumPacer]

3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Many of them will be top players for other teams.

 

Ruturaj or KL will be worshipped in a countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, SL, Zimbabwe,WI.

 

Likes of Tyagi, Simarjeet, Himanshu etc can easily find a place in teams like Ireland, Scotland, Bangladesh, Afghanistan who don't have enough fast bowling resources.

 

One Brendon Taylor & Sikandar Raza can uplift the entire standard of Zim. Imagine if they have the players like Sai or Anmolpreet. 

 

 

I am not impressed by these names,I guess they can play but will perform poorly.

[MediumPacer]

Just now, singhvivek141 said:

Sanvir has T20 SR of 186

Ramandeep has 166.

Manohar SR of 150

I have see them,in smat the boundaries are brought in significantly, that's why they get those scores.They will struggle on normal boundaries.