India's test XI of this millennium ( post 2000)

[Majestic]

Virender Sehwag 

Gautam Gambhir 

Rahul Dravid 

Virat Kohli 

VVS Laxman

Rishabh Pant(wkt)

Ravindra Jadeja 

Ravichandran Ashwin /Anil Kumble 

Zaheer Khan 

Mohammad Shami 

Jasprit Bumrah 

 

Gambhir is picked ahead of Rohit because of need of left hander in that lineup and not much to seperate between them as test batsman.

 

Dravid, Sehwag and Laxman were arguably more impactful test bat than SRT post 2000. Virat Kohli is best test batsman of this millennium for India after Dravid. 

 

Pacers pick themselves and so do the spinners although Kumble in 2000s was excellent on flatter decks. 

 

 

[Gollum]

Zaheer the test bowler is overrated. Umesh over him in SC, Ishant over him in SENA, 2015-19 Ishant was the best third pacer we have ever had in our history. 

[Stan AF]

OP,

 

I'd love to see Kohli face wasim/waqar and saqlain in a chennai dustbowl on a 5th day pitch. Joke of a 11 !!.

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, Stan AF said:

OP,

 

I'd love to see Kohli face wasim/waqar and saqlain in a chennai dustbowl on a 5th day pitch. Joke of a 11 !!.

He has thrown a bait here. I foresee this thread running for 500+ pages and being bumped even in 2037. 

[Stan AF]

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=1;spanmin1=01+dec+2019;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match

 

Kohli has scored a staggering 1646 runs in 29 test matches (50 innings) averaging a mighty 33.49 in the last 4.5 years. Missed countless test matches and India still did mighty well without him.

 

In comparison Joe root has scored 4000 runs in the last 3.5 years.

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=1;spanmin1=01+dec+2019;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match

 

Kohli has scored a staggering 1646 runs in 29 test matches (50 innings) averaging a mighty 33.49 in the last 4.5 years. Missed countless test matches and India still did mighty well without him.

 

In comparison Joe root has scored 4000 runs in the last 3.5 years.

Kohli had the shortest prime and peak for such a renowned batsman. 2015-19 was his prime, 2016 Eng (home) till 2018 Eng (away) was his peak....but even amidst that golden run he flopped hard in 2017 BGT.

[Majestic]

Kohli has scored his runs on minefield. For any doubts, just look at stats of other batters during his time. The conditions in which Kohli batted, he deserves a few brownie points for that.

 

Tendulkar was a statistical delight post 2000. He feasted heavily on minnows and boosted his stats while Dravid Laxman did the hard yards and scored more pressure runs. Sehwag, being an opener batted like beast vs legendary spinners. Tendulkar of 90s was different from the 2000 one.

 

Khan won a test series in England. Sharma won nothing despite sharing the bowling with two giants of the game, Bumrah and Shami. Khan leaves Sharma in dust.

[Majestic]

Here are the stats excluding Zimbabwe and Bangladesh post 2000:-

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=runs;spanmax1=31+Dec+2100;spanmin1=01+Jan+2001;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

Dravid - 49.5

Kohli - 49

Sehwag - 49

Laxman - 47

Tendulkar - 47

 

These are facts, let's argue against it. There is no bait or agenda.

 

[Gollum]

11 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Kohli has scored his runs on minefield. For any doubts, just look at stats of other batters during his time. The conditions in which Kohli batted, he deserves a few brownie points for that.

 

Tendulkar was a statistical delight post 2000. He feasted heavily on minnows and boosted his stats while Dravid Laxman did the hard yards and scored more pressure runs. Sehwag, being an opener batted like beast vs legendary spinners. Tendulkar of 90s was different from the 2000 one.

 

Khan won a test series in England. Sharma won nothing despite sharing the bowling with two giants of the game, Bumrah and Shami. Khan leaves Sharma in dust.

At least at home, Kohli did nothing on challenging pitches. Pujara, Vijay, Pant etc. did the heavy lifting on rank turners. 

 

No need to run down Sachin who had a second peak in 2007-10 at age of 35+. 

Edited August 1, 2024 by Gollum

[Majestic]

32 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

OP,

 

I'd love to see Kohli face wasim/waqar and saqlain in a chennai dustbowl on a 5th day pitch. Joke of a 11 !!.

That Waqar didn't had the luxury of tampered balls.

 

Tendulkar owed runs in that Chennai game because he got out for duck in first inning. 

[Praveen 06]

Top 7 batsman cumulative avg 

 

Involving player Sachin- 43.5

Involving player kohli - 38.5

 

Avg difference - 5

 

Sachin avg from 2000 - 52

Kohli avg - 49

 

avg difference- 3

 

Lhs = rhs... kohli impact > sachin impact in 2000s

Edited August 1, 2024 by Praveen 06

[Majestic]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

At least at home, Kohli did nothing on challenging pitches. Pujara, Vijay, Pant etc. did the heavy lifting on rank turners. 

Kohli scored runs in Mumbai vs England 2017. He was player of series vs England. At home, we had 9 other match winners at home( no prizes guessing who was the 11th player wasting a spot in home conditions) so runs overseas mattered more. And he scored runs in South Africa on difficult conditions like none.

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Kohli scored runs in Mumbai vs England 2017. He was player of series vs England. At home, we had 9 other match winners at home( no prizes guessing who was the 11th player wasting a spot in home conditions) so runs overseas mattered more. And he scored runs in South Africa on difficult conditions like none.

He did score tough runs in RSA, in Eng too in one series. 2014-15 Aussie pitches were flat af as were 2011-12 ones. NZ he has to fire next time we tour. 

 

Those tests ve Eng in 2016 were incredibly high scoring. Vijay too scored 2 100s, as did Pujara, Kela 199, Nair 300, Jayant Yadav 100 from #9, Ashwin scored 300 or 50 runs in that series, Jadeja 250 etc. 

 

Kohli has a lot to prove in test cricket. In white ball he is in GOAT race. 

Edited August 1, 2024 by Gollum

[Praveen 06]

2 minutes ago, Praveen 06 said:

Top 7 batsman cumulative avg 

 

Involving player Sachin- 43.5

Involving player kohli - 38.5

 

Avg difference kohli

Kohli played 80 matches out of 113 matches against top teams(sena)

 

Sachin played 77 matches out of 127 matches against top teams (seap)

 

 

[Gollum]

Anyway you guys carry on, yeh thread amar rahe!!!!

[Ultimate_Game]

3 hours ago, Majestic said:

Virender Sehwag 

Gautam Gambhir 

Rahul Dravid 

Virat Kohli 

VVS Laxman

Rishabh Pant(wkt)

Ravindra Jadeja 

Ravichandran Ashwin /Anil Kumble 

Zaheer Khan 

Mohammad Shami 

Jasprit Bumrah 

 

Gambhir is picked ahead of Rohit because of need of left hander in that lineup and not much to seperate between them as test batsman.

 

Dravid, Sehwag and Laxman were arguably more impactful test bat than SRT post 2000. Virat Kohli is best test batsman of this millennium for India after Dravid. 

 

Pacers pick themselves and so do the spinners although Kumble in 2000s was excellent on flatter decks. 

 

 

 

No Tendulkar 

 

I would've Tendulkar ahead of either Dravid or Kohli in the team.

 

At home I would play Ashwin and Jadeja. And away from Home I would replace Ashwin with a pacer - possibly a seam all-rounder. Even Shardul would be better as we need 4 seamers away instead of 2 spinners.

[JaFanatic]

Man must be a mystery for scoring all his runs against minnows and yet considered arguably the greatest batsman.

[Majestic]

4 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

No Tendulkar 

 

I would've Tendulkar ahead of either Dravid or Kohli in the team.

 

At home I would play Ashwin and Jadeja. And away from Home I would replace Ashwin with a pacer - possibly a seam all-rounder. Even Shardul would be better as we need 4 seamers away instead of 2 spinners.

This is post 2000 test XI. Hence, Tendulkar misses out.

[Kron]

8 hours ago, Praveen 06 said:

Kohli played 80 matches out of 113 matches against top teams(sena)

 

Sachin played 77 matches out of 127 matches against top teams (seap)

 

 

Also west indies. That time they were good.

 

Now minnows. 

 

Sachu played against strong w.indies team. 

 

But post 2000 era I would still have sacchu in the team. 

[Ultimate_Game]

28 minutes ago, Majestic said:

This is post 2000 test XI. Hence, Tendulkar misses out.

 

IMO post 2000 Tendulkar was pretty decent too. And roll his arm over too along with Sehwag.