Stan AF Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 Kohli gets out to moeen Ali of all spinners. He would be pissing his pants to Warne , Murali and other former greats. Ultimate_Game 1
Stan AF Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) This thread is a pathetic attempt and downright laughable nonsense. Threads like this bring down the IQ of the forum. Nothing more to say actually. Edited August 2, 2024 by Stan AF Kron 1
putrevus Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stan AF said: Somebody who struggled to make one test 100 for 4 years shouldn't be considered for anything inspite of his lunatic fanbase. Somebody who never scored 500 runs in series nor reached 900 ratings is not even in picture of ATG players. Kohli atleast had slump. Playing 200 tests does not make Sachin as best batsman either. Scoring 100 100s after playing nearly double the matches is not great achievement either despite his idiotic fanbase assertions. Edited August 2, 2024 by putrevus
New guy Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 43 minutes ago, putrevus said: India won one lousy test in 1990s away from India. Did they need Sachin to lose , they would lost without him too, what exactly did Sachin do there. This notion India did fine without Kohli is idiotic. Kohli as for now is only behind Sachin and Sunny in tests even after his slump. One single bumrah and Sachin would have had way more wins than anyone else in history. Don't compare team performances to individuals
New guy Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 16 minutes ago, putrevus said: More proof that Sachin fans are idiotic and do nothing else but try to make Sachin into some thing which he never was . Kohli had way smaller peak than any great batsman in history. Every single country greats, ex players, commentators, wisden, all have our Sachin among the very very top and ahead of kohli in tests. Must be all Sachin fans. Ultimate_Game 1
putrevus Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, Praveen 06 said: I will take peak kohli over peak sachin There is no question Peak Kohli is far better than Peak Sachin any day in all formats. Odis Sachin is not even in same ball park as Kohli. Tests Sachin is far better as he had better technique but he never had the determination to carry the team on his back.He was a steady eddy for a reason. Kohli never had luxury of batting with lineups like Sachin either. Praveen 06 1
Praveen 06 Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 Highest % of Team runs for India in Test (min 5000 runs) 16.55 - Sunil Gavaskar 15.06 - Virat Kohli 14.82 - Sachin Tendulkar 14.76 - Rahul Dravid 14.68 - Virender Sehwag 13.82 - G Vishwanath 13.36 - C Pujara Gavaskar > Kohli > sachin
Praveen 06 Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: There is no question Peak Kohli is far better than Peak Sachin any day in all formats. Odis Sachin is not even in same ball park as Kohli. Tests Sachin is far better as he had better technique but he never had the determination to carry the team on his back.He was a steady eddy for a reason. Kohli never had luxury of batting with lineups like Sachin either. Yes Kohli impact more Mom Sachin - 14 (200 tests) Kohli - 10(113 tests) Double hundreds Sachin - 6 Kohli - 7 Edited August 2, 2024 by Praveen 06
Praveen 06 Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 My X1 Sehwaag Rohit Dravid Sachin Kohli Pant Jadeja Ashwin Zaheer Shami Bumrah
Gambit Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 What were the away averages for all batsmen since 2000? Tendulkar is the only 50+ avg batsman. Dravid is 48 and Kohli is 44.
singhvivek141 Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 1. Virender Sehwag 2. Tough to choose, will go with Gambhir 3. Dravid 4. Tendulkar 5. Kohli 6. Laxman 7. Pant (wk) 8. Jadeja 9. Kumble 10. Shami 11. Bumrah
Ultimate_Game Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 8 hours ago, Muloghonto said: My XI: Sehwag Jaiswal Dravid Tendulkar Kohli MSD+(c) Jadeja Ashwin Kumble Shami Bumrah 3 spinners is too many even for home matches. One of Kumble or Ashwin should make for a batsman in India, and away matches should only have one spinner. Like the Jaiswal pick to partner with Sehwag.
Kron Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Praveen 06 said: I will take peak kohli over peak sachin How the hell did cooomaa sangalosserakara get that high of a rating. He never ever performed away from home in any match winning cause. Especially not aus or india. Guy is a fraud. Rest of the ratings looks good. Praveen 06 1
Majestic Posted August 2, 2024 Author Posted August 2, 2024 9 hours ago, Muloghonto said: This is unadulterated BS and categorically false lol. Explain.
Majestic Posted August 2, 2024 Author Posted August 2, 2024 The idea to remove VVS just to fit Sachin is even more crap. VVS was much better than his stats and real game changer in tests.
Majestic Posted August 2, 2024 Author Posted August 2, 2024 https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=runs;spanmax1=31+Dec+2100;spanmin1=01+Jan+2001;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting Facts.
Majestic Posted August 2, 2024 Author Posted August 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, Kron said: How the hell did cooomaa sangalosserakara get that high of a rating. He never ever performed away from home in any match winning cause. Especially not aus or india. Guy is a fraud. Rest of the ratings looks good. Ratings are crap. They don't weight home or away difference Kron 1
Muloghonto Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 28 minutes ago, Majestic said: Explain. You dont make a team without the best ever batsman in tests after bradman,i am sorry to say.
Muloghonto Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: 3 spinners is too many even for home matches. One of Kumble or Ashwin should make for a batsman in India, and away matches should only have one spinner. Like the Jaiswal pick to partner with Sehwag. this whole 3 spinner vs 1 spinner overseas is fine and dandy if you got pace bowlers like Australia or West Indies. The basic rule of thumb is, you play your best players and then tinker with ' horses for the courses' methodology. For eg, if its a total green top wicket and my choice is between picking Muralitharan or Pandya, ofcourse i will pick Murali 10 times out of 10. As it stands, except for Kapil, Srinath, Shami and Bumrah, there isn't a pace bowler in India thats better than Kumble. So kumble gets in.
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