Indian Far-right

[Lannister]

What better place to dive into this topic than a forum packed with completely sane and rational people? So, how do we tackle this menace and bring a little sanity back to our politics?

[Muloghonto]

That is your gora-master's binary two sided politics talking. There is no need to tackle far right, just as there is no need to tackle far left,until the point these organisations militarize. 
Society will always have far right, far left, center right,center left etc. positions, with the latter two dominating, its an idiotic western zealot mentality to think that one will ever truly tackle the other. 

Indian far right however,are mostly hyper-islamists and hyper christians, so that needs tackling on a level that can be provided only by center-right hinduvta. 

 

[coffee_rules]

Why is it a menace? The only anti-national menace was the communist , whose menace has been wiped out and reduced  to just one state - Kerala. At least the RWers are nationalists . There is no far right , mainstream RW is just right of center in culture, but extreme left socialist in economics. They are not the ideal RW you see elsewhere 

[ravishingravi]

34 minutes ago, Lannister said:

What better place to dive into this topic than a forum packed with completely sane and rational people? So, how do we tackle this menace and bring a little sanity back to our politics?

 

What is far right ? Just checking if you have applied your mind or mimicking the western talking points ? 

[Muloghonto]

Just now, coffee_rules said:

Why is it a menace? The only anti-national menace was the communist , whose menace has been wiped out and reduced  to just one state - Kerala. At least the RWers are nationalists . There is no far right , mainstream RW is just right of center in culture, but extreme left socialist in economics. They are not the ideal RW you see elsewhere 

No, the far right menace is church and jihadi menace.They are the definition of far right,so our inbred fool here has bumbled on to the right question,even though he is motivated by his hinduphobia to try and mislabel center-right hinduvta as far right.

 

[coffee_rules]

45 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

No, the far right menace is church and jihadi menace.They are the definition of far right,so our inbred fool here has bumbled on to the right question,even though he is motivated by his hinduphobia to try and mislabel center-right hinduvta as far right.

 

You are right (no pun). Nowadays anybody says RW , I assume Hindutva and starts defending. 25 crores is not minority. They form a major port of Indian RW. Don’t forget the evangelicals , the lunatics who gets support from the communists like CPM, DMK and parties like YSR CP. RW is constituted by these  in India mainly. They oppose gay rights, same sex marriage, gender rights and those idiots on the streets  go sloganeering like Manuwaadi se ajaadi. Get ajaadi from Muslim and Christian conservatives. Hindutva is not against gay marriage. Samajhlo. 

[zen]

Unfortunately, at the moment,  there is no political party with a genuine concern for India in whichever corner you look! 
 

 

[kepler37b]

7 hours ago, zen said:

Unfortunately, at the moment,  there is no political party with a genuine concern for India in whichever corner you look! 
 

 

Average indian is inward looking and selfish. 

 

His sense of belonging stops either with his clan or caste.

 

There is a reason why we are corrupt and our public places look like dumps.

[kepler37b]

8 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

No, the far right menace is church and jihadi menace.They are the definition of far right,so our inbred fool here has bumbled on to the right question,even though he is motivated by his hinduphobia to try and mislabel center-right hinduvta as far right.

 

Yes. Completely agree on first sentence.

 

 

[coffee_rules]

42 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

Average indian is inward looking and selfish. 

 

His sense of belonging stops either with his clan or caste.

 

There is a reason why we are corrupt and our public places look like dumps.

Secularism or rather the Congresi secularism has failed India. To unite all castes and sects , Hindutva is the way to go. Call it far right or whatever, choose what’s least bad for the country. Tried secularism for 75 years for this situation. Forget Akhand, save what’s left of Bharat!!

[Lannister]

9 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

What is far right ? Just checking if you have applied your mind or mimicking the western talking points ? 

Hyper-nationalism, religio-fascism and the dismantling of democratic norms and institutions are just a few examples.

[coffee_rules]

Country like India needed Hyper-nationalism in 1947. Nationalism has become a N-word because of 1930s Europe. India needs to go back to its civilizational roots like China did in the 90s. Otherwise it will break apart before 2047. 

[Lannister]

10 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

There is no far right , mainstream RW is just right of center in culture, but extreme left socialist in economics. They are not the ideal RW you see elsewhere 

Obviously, economically they’ve got to lean left or people will boot out the BJP. This isn't like America. 

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, Lannister said:

Hyper-nationalism, religio-fascism and the dismantling of democratic norms and institutions are just a few examples.

 

Ok. Didnt make sense for me. But let's continue with your hypothesis.

 

So name 3 far right policies of last 10 years. 

Edited October 6, 2024 by ravishingravi

[kepler37b]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Secularism or rather the Congresi secularism has failed India. To unite all castes and sects , Hindutva is the way to go. Call it far right or whatever, choose what’s least bad for the country. Tried secularism for 75 years for this situation. Forget Akhand, save what’s left of Bharat!!

I am not sure it is going to change.

 

Diversity breeds low trust and low trust results in inward looking petty selfishness.

 

As I see now, there are groups that are exploiting the hindutva sentiment. A group of people that are promoting their economic interests under the garb of Swadeshi sentiment. 

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, Lannister said:

Hyper-nationalism, religio-fascism and the dismantling of democratic norms and institutions are just a few examples.

 

Hyper nationalism :- What does this mean ? Indira Gandhi was also by some definitions hypernationalist who interfered in Bangladesh which we didn't have to. Last I checked this govt is indifferent to Pakistan. So when does nationalism go hyper ? 

 

Regio-fascism :- Last I checked bjp spokesperson went underground for fear of her life while 6 Hindus were beheaded for online supporting her. Also data doesn't support you. We have lesser riots last 10 years than 20 years prior to that. So not sure what's your parameters. TN is raising hindu sites while Mamta doesnt allow hindu processions on certain days. 

 

Democratic norms of institutions :- congress controlled all state and central institutions when they were in power. Now bjp does it. Mamta, left, DMK, aiadmk controlled institutions and media in their states. Journalists and dissenters are also jailed in these states. So what makes bjp far right ?

[zen]

14 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

As I see now, there are groups that are exploiting the hindutva sentiment. A group of people that are promoting their economic interests under the garb of Swadeshi sentiment.

Hindutva is an election slogan that is revisited every 4-5 years at the time of elections.

 

We saw how the Hindus in BD were ignored but advance concepts such as Akhand Bharat  

 

BJP does not know how to keep its majority. No wonder it went from 300+ seats to below 270 odd. Modi appears out of touch with the situation on ground as well, probably having bought into his own public image. 

 

[kepler37b]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

Hindutva is an election slogan that is revisited every 4-5 years at the time of elections.

 

We saw how the Hindus in BD were ignored but advance concepts such as Akhand Bharat  

 

BJP does not know how to keep its majority. No wonder it went from 300+ seats to below 270 odd. Modi appears out of touch with the situation on ground as well, probably having bought into his own public image. 

 

He cannot do much 

 

An average hindu would much rather clamour for a subsidy rather than fate of BD Hindus.

 

Sad state of affairs

[zen]

3 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

He cannot do much 

 

An average hindu would much rather clamour for a subsidy rather than fate of BD Hindus.

 

Sad state of affairs

Where there is a will, there is a way. If India cannot do much even in subcon to safeguard Hindus, people will begin to look at this as election drama. 
 

BJP Stooges have become out of control as well. There was a tweet on Rahul where he spoke about Jalebi factories where factory is used to refer as a place where something is made. The tweet focused on a mundane aspect such as he does not even know that Jalabis are not made in factories. These guys on social media keep hitting new lows.

[kepler37b]

12 minutes ago, zen said:

Where there is a will, there is a way. If India cannot do much even in subcon to safeguard Hindus, people will begin to look at this as election drama. 
 

BJP Stooges have become out of control as well. There was a tweet on Rahul where he spoke about Jalebi factories where factory is used to refer as a place where something is made. The tweet focused on a mundane aspect such as he does not even know that Jalabis are not made in factories. These guys on social media keep hitting new lows.

I see a bleak future for bhaarat. The optimistic nationalists are often the ones cozying up in their 3000sq ft San fransisco homes. With a green card and a OCI card in their document files.

 

The caste fault lines have widened and retards like Congressis will clamour for forced wealth transfer from GCs to other castes. They are already asking for a rise in reservations from 50 percent.