Pant has all the skills leveling with Tendulkar but match awareness of Arshdeep

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, Frustrated said:

Bakwaskar is disgusting.  The most biased analyst ever.  Always criticizes promising youngsters and not a single word on washed up oldies.  How much commission does he earn from the oldies?? 

1 BJ per praise from them

[Lord]

4 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

About Pant : That's not his natural game. That is stupid

 

About Rohit : He plays this shot often (implying its his natural game) just got  big on him

[Trichromatic]

There are 2 versions of Pant.

 

One which hits sixes after sixes with the spin/turn like Chennai 2021 v England. One which doesn't hesitate to be 35 of 85 like Gabba chase.

 

And this one where field is set of that shot and he plays and throws away wicket there only.

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

There are 2 versions of Pant.

 

One which hits sixes after sixes with the spin/turn like Chennai 2021 v England. One which doesn't hesitate to be 35 of 85 like Gabba chase.

 

And this one where field is set of that shot and he plays and throws away wicket there only.

 

so basically where end result is different

[R!TTER]

Life is all about outcomes you obviously can't ignore that - RGS had he not thrown away his wicket vs Maxi in the finals could well have cemented his legacy as the best LO cap we've ever had. Same goes for any other player, inlcuding BRat, heck Bumrah was a certified choker before his WT20 finale 

[R!TTER]

Primary team India

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000

Tournament type 5+ team tournaments

Match type tournament finals  or tournament cons. finals  or tournament semi-finals  or tournament quarter-finals

Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 10

Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10   I Sharma 2008-2021 4 5 54.2 13 190 11 3/33 3/33 17.27 3.49 29.6 0 0   UT Yadav 2013-2023 5 6 68.0 9 274 11 4/31 4/31 24.90 4.02 37.0 0 0   Mohammed Siraj 2023-2023 4 5 71.3 7 332 13 6/21 6/21 25.53 4.64 33.0 1 0   R Ashwin 2011-2022 13 14 103.5 13 468 17 3/22 4/45 27.52 4.50 36.6 0 0   Mohammed Shami 2015-2023 7 9 120.1 23 516 18 7/57 7/57 28.66 4.29 40.0 1 0   Z Khan 2000-2011 12 12 103.1 8 522 17 3/14 3/14 30.70 5.05 36.4 0 0   Harbhajan Singh 2002-2011 11 11 95.0 2 430 13 3/27 3/27 33.07 4.52 43.8 0 0   JJ Bumrah 2016-2024 12 13 111.5 17 492 14 2/12 2/12 35.14 4.39 47.9 0 0   RA Jadeja 2013-2024 19 20 156.2 10 720 13 3/58 4/114 55.38 4.60 72.1 0 0

[Trichromatic]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

so basically where end result is different

 

It's not just difference in end result. It's difference in approach itself.

 

Sehwag did same in his career. Before 2009, he used to play a lot according to field or would play a lot with the turn and rarely against the turn.

 

After 2009 or 10 his game changed and he started trying more against the turn or field.

 

 

[Vijy]

25 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

It's not just difference in end result. It's difference in approach itself.

 

Sehwag did same in his career. Before 2009, he used to play a lot according to field or would play a lot with the turn and rarely against the turn.

 

After 2009 or 10 his game changed and he started trying more against the turn or field.

 

 

Sehwag lost both interest and reflexes in tests over time. hopefully same will not happen with pant.

[Ultimate_Game]

3 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

 

It's not just difference in end result. It's difference in approach itself.

 

Sehwag did same in his career. Before 2009, he used to play a lot according to field or would play a lot with the turn and rarely against the turn.

 

After 2009 or 10 his game changed and he started trying more against the turn or field.

 

 

 

Sehwag lost his eyesight around 2010-11. He tried wearing glasses and then lens but it didn't work out for him. He was never the same batsman after that.

[Vijy]

24 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Sehwag lost his eyesight around 2010-11. He tried wearing glasses and then lens but it didn't work out for him. He was never the same batsman after that.

Also lost some motivation prior to that.

[Ultimate_Game]

9 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Also lost some motivation prior to that.

 

It was due to the eyesight fiasco. He was quite down when that happened and he couldn't bat the same way anymore. He tried glasses, then went to using lens and then glasses again but it didn't work for him. Could've lost a bit of reflexes too along with his eyesight but he was never the same batter after that.

[Vijy]

43 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

It was due to the eyesight fiasco. He was quite down when that happened and he couldn't bat the same way anymore. He tried glasses, then went to using lens and then glasses again but it didn't work for him. Could've lost a bit of reflexes too along with his eyesight but he was never the same batter after that.

should have retired in 2011 itself after winning WC.

[Ultimate_Game]

12 minutes ago, Vijy said:

should have retired in 2011 itself after winning WC.

 

Yup. Both him and Tendulkar should've done that. Tendulkar's average dropped considerably and we went through that 0-8 fiasco as we had over the hill players who shouldn't have been selected.

[Vijy]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Yup. Both him and Tendulkar should've done that. Tendulkar's average dropped considerably and we went through that 0-8 fiasco as we had over the hill players who shouldn't have been selected.

Yeah, 99 100s would have a more poetic feel to it.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

Yeah, 99 100s would have a more poetic feel to it.

 

Yup just like Bradman's batting average of 99.9

 

He would've averaged 56 or 57 and signed off on a winning note. Those last 2 years took some shine away from his legacy.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Yup just like Bradman's batting average of 99.9

 

He would've averaged 56 or 57 and signed off on a winning note. Those last 2 years took some shine away from his legacy.

it would have been a great finish

[vvvslaxman]

Some people don't live by rules lol @Gollum

 

 

 

[gattaca]

4 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

It was due to the eyesight fiasco. He was quite down when that happened and he couldn't bat the same way anymore. He tried glasses, then went to using lens and then glasses again but it didn't work for him. Could've lost a bit of reflexes too along with his eyesight but he was never the same batter after that.

There is something called lasik. He could have done that.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Some people don't live by rules lol @Gollum

 

 

 

it's already been discussed in ChitChat.

[BacktoCricaddict]

3 hours ago, gattaca said:

There is something called lasik. He could have done that.

Things may be different now, but when I checked a few yrs ago, I realized that Lasik docs won't touch you unless you cross a certain threshold of myopia. (-2.5 D or worse).