How selfish is Kohli to chase balls that far away instead of leaving them?

[Ultimate_Game]

18 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Let us talk about Kohli's range of strokes. How many of the shots here played by Gavaskar can be played by Kohli?

 

 

 

Bud you're comparing a batter who'll most likely walk into an All-Time XI as an opener  (Gavaskar) to a mediocre batter at best who would struggle to get into any team other than the ones made up by his fanbois.

 

Comparing the two is an insult to Gavaskar. Can you imagine Kohli facing the WI bowlers in 70s and 80s? He can't even handle basic, straight deliveries outside off stump.

[straighttalk]

On 12/30/2024 at 12:53 PM, vvvslaxman said:

It did happen in England. But these balls had no chance of coming back in. 

Actually if you look at Rahul and Jadeja and also sometimes pant when he defends .heck even the last innings of Rohit .the way to survive in these tracks is to play close to the body and defend the incoming balls...that way you would never get out chasing anything...the bowler has to get close to the wicket and you can then drive easily and on the straight or flick. But that requires discipline. Yes you might get a unplayable delivery but that's going to take something special from the bowler

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Let us talk about Kohli's range of strokes. How many of the shots here played by Gavaskar can be played by Kohli?

 

 

it's not just Gabbaskar or SRT or VVS (compared to Brat). Even Azhar had many more shots - just that he didn't know when to use them, and didn't have the best technique vs pace/bounce.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Bud you're comparing a batter who'll most likely walk into an All-Time XI as an opener  (Gavaskar) to a mediocre batter at best who would struggle to get into any team other than the ones made up by his fanbois.

 

Comparing the two is an insult to Gavaskar. Can you imagine Kohli facing the WI bowlers in 70s and 80s? He can't even handle basic, straight deliveries outside off stump.

or even imagine him playing 90s WI attack: Bishop, Amby, Walsh. Even they would eat him alive

[Lord]

My wish of seeing him get out in different way remained unfulfilled

 

At this point he should have been slogging every ball

[Teengunalagaan]

If I remember correctly there were times when Sachin was struggling he used to go back to Ranji to work on his issues, when did the last time likes of Rohit, Kohli, Gill played any domestic cricket...

[CG]

On 1/3/2025 at 1:58 PM, express bowling said:

Kohli's biggest problem is that he does not have a back foot game on the off side against pace bowlers. 

 

He somehow managed without it when his reflexes were better. 

 

Now, with reflexes slowing down with age, he has to commit to a front foot shot a bit too early against pace.

 

If Kohli wants to prolong his career while performing, he needs to take a couple of months off and develop an off stump back foot game against pacers.

 

 

It will take much more time .

[Lord]

[Ultimate_Game]

5 hours ago, Lord said:

My wish of seeing him get out in different way remained unfulfilled

 

At this point he should have been slogging every ball

 

I wouldn't put it past "King" Kohli trying to slog and still managing to edge the ball behind 

[Laaloo]

4 hours ago, Teengunalagaan said:

If I remember correctly there were times when Sachin was struggling he used to go back to Ranji to work on his issues, when did the last time likes of Rohit, Kohli, Gill played any domestic cricket...

[Lord]

If its so obvious what the bowler is trying, it should be easy for any batsman to play and avoid that dismissal. Kohli could have tried to back away and cut on offside or even play inside the line. 

[vvvslaxman]

Can we officially say Kohli is Boland's bitch?

 

[Vijy]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Can we officially say Kohli is Boland's bitch?

 

he is any bowler's bitch. as long as they bowl outside off, he's willing to become their bitch.

[The Hound]

Might be an unpopular opinion but i think sarfaraz would've done better at #4 in this tour. Most of the balls in which virat got out he would've dabbed and cut to the boundary which is his strong zone. 

[Vijy]

3 minutes ago, The Hound said:

Might be an unpopular opinion but i think sarfaraz would've done better at #4 in this tour. Most of the balls in which virat got out he would've dabbed and cut to the boundary which is his strong zone. 

extra bounce may have been a problem, but I too reckon he would have done better than Lolli

[kosingh]

Good thing Virat did not play in the 1990s. With the likes of McGrath, Ambrose and Pollock his career average would have been under 30. 

[Vijy]

22 minutes ago, kosingh said:

Good thing Virat did not play in the 1990s. With the likes of McGrath, Ambrose and Pollock his career average would have been under 30. 

don't forget walsh, bishop, wasim, waqar, donald, akhtar apart from those you mentioned, all of whom played in 90s. even "second-tier" bowlers like fanie de villiers, damien fleming, jason gillespie, heath streak, darren gough, etc. would have troubled him quite a lot.

[Lord]

11 hours ago, kosingh said:

Good thing Virat did not play in the 1990s. With the likes of McGrath, Ambrose and Pollock his career average would have been under 30. 

 

He wouldn't have played even 10 Tests

[Vijy]

15 hours ago, Lord said:

 

He wouldn't have played even 10 Tests

could have been dropped after several failures

[mikeypbadana86]

On 1/4/2025 at 3:36 PM, Vijy said:

don't forget walsh, bishop, wasim, waqar, donald, akhtar apart from those you mentioned, all of whom played in 90s. even "second-tier" bowlers like fanie de villiers, damien fleming, jason gillespie, heath streak, darren gough, etc. would have troubled him quite a lot.

As a fan of Ganguly, Ganguly was never comfortable against pace yet scored 10k ODI  and had very good test average. what makes you believe Kohli would fail when he is always supreme against pace? You are seeing fag end of kohli . I think peak kohli would have succeeded in previous era. How would sachin have fared with out helmet like gavaskar against Malcom marshall/garner etc. ? Very wrong to compare players from different eras. Players in the past did not have to play three formats(t20/odi/test). The media pressure was negligible . Compare that to current digitial/social media and the amount of preassure Kohli or a rohit would have had to endure.