The 'Leak Era'

[Vijy]

14 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

no reverse the order. Kohli doesn't want captaincy at this point. Jaddu is not even a certainty. KL is somehow 'senior' and has captained in BD.

don't see KL having the balls to go around strutting and saying that he can fix team problems, etc. seems more like a Kohli thing to do - once rohit is gone, I do think he wants the captaincy that he relinquished in a rather emotional way.

[wanted_desi]

8 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

no reverse the order. Kohli doesn't want captaincy at this point. Jaddu is not even a certainty. KL is somehow 'senior' and has captained in BD.

 

 

KL is just happy to be back in the squad. I doubt he wants to be captain. 

 

Kohli want it because its only way to keep playing XI. 

[Strangering]

0-3 at home against New Zealand should have been the last straw. 

 

Coaching staff needs to be replaced. Rohit, Kohli and Jadeja need to be sacked. Agarkar and Binny should be on the hot seat too. 

Start afresh. 

 

Besides, why did it take Gambhir this long to attempt to reel things in? The team has looked visibly out of sorts for months now. 

 

 

[Vijy]

7 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

 

 

KL is just happy to be back in the squad. I doubt he wants to be captain. 

 

Kohli want it because its only way to keep playing XI. 

also wants it to satisfy his massive ego

[Arvind32]

9 hours ago, devisreeprasadmahesh said:

Gambir wanted Pujara in the squad but was rejected by the Mumbai  selector clown Ajit agarkar and Bcci. The series would have been different if pujara was playing. Maybe Pujara is not a Mumbai guy

Pujara is a step backward . We have  the brightest talent in the world with Jaiswal , Gill and Sarfraz in the squad . They are once in a generation batsman . Why Sarfraz been dropped after just 2 bad tests  . They guy has just played 6-7 Marche in his career . Even though he scored a century  in first March against Newzealand and then around 50 score when whole team was falling . Not sure why he dropped ? 

[diga]

6 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

 

KL lacks confidence to claim anything lol, Jadeja never wanted to be a captain even at domestic/IPL level. 

 

Mr Fixit is Kohli 100%, as he's wanting to just be an 'interim option' (can't be Bumrah as he would become the long term capt). 

 

Jadeja -> rhymes with jud - aaga (hindi jodo - fix)  

[New guy]

13 hours ago, Arvind32 said:

Gambhir is not a problem here . The problem is selection of team . We have 3 prodigy  in a squad  in form of Jaiswal , Gill and Sarfraz Khan . But still we are pressissting with useless Rohit , Kohli and Pant ( Raula kata batsman ) . Just imagine if you add Sai , Jurel as a utility player where will this team will be ? I even not considering Kuldeep Yadav , Rituraj at this stage . 

Pant was literally the top scorer in last series form both sides on increodnly difficult pitches. Series before that he scored an incredible 100 in his comeback series after injury.

 

Pant has been our top scorer in 80% of all series and second top scorer in 20% of all series since last 5 years. He has been hard carrying out team since last 5 years. 

 

The fact that you called this batsman useless and raula katta shows what you know about cricket, and the ones who encouraged you with likes

 

You guys are literally mentally ill now. Which is expected from some no body posters,  using terms used in pakistan, a clear pakistani troll,, but what happened to posters like @tweaker who are suddenly encouraging such ignorance 

Edited January 2, 2025 by New guy

[Chakdephatte]

18 hours ago, Lord said:

This is likely 'leaked' by Gambhir himself to make it seem he's doing his bit. 

Nah. Indian Express has written too many articles on Rohit over last two days. The focus is on captaincy drama, the tone clearly suggests its Rohit PR and anyone else's. 

 

 

And tell me how suddenly people are talking about Gambhir's selection after six months--

 

 

Edited January 2, 2025 by Chakdephatte

[diga]

19 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Nah. Indian Express has written too many articles on Rohit over last two days. The focus is on captaincy drama, the tone clearly suggests its Rohit PR and anyone else's. 

what a fall for Indian Express from Goenka days... Is it a sellout now?

[straighttalk]

14 hours ago, Lord said:

 

The account is legit and still there. It seems a Rohit account lol.The post might have been deleted.

 

I got it from Reddit, where even his fanboys accept he liked the pic but they claim he did it for his part (avg 40)

I meant is the like from Rohit himself or some fake account 

[diga]

2 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

Nah. Indian Express has written too many articles on Rohit over last two days. The focus is on captaincy drama, the tone clearly suggests its Rohit PR and anyone else's. 

 

 

And tell me how suddenly people are talking about Gambhir's selection after six months--

 

 

https://www.indiancricketfans.com/topic/120159-the-new-never-ending-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5067442

 

 

This is already discussed in ICF :) 

[Arvind32]

6 hours ago, New guy said:

Pant was literally the top scorer in last series form both sides on increodnly difficult pitches. Series before that he scored an incredible 100 in his comeback series after injury.

 

Pant has been our top scorer in 80% of all series and second top scorer in 20% of all series since last 5 years. He has been hard carrying out team since last 5 years. 

 

The fact that you called this batsman useless and raula katta shows what you know about cricket, and the ones who encouraged you with likes

 

You guys are literally mentally ill now. Which is expected from some no body posters,  using terms used in pakistan, a clear pakistani troll,, but what happened to posters like @tweaker who are suddenly encouraging such ignorance 

First thing first , Raula katta is a Punjabi word . Which is often used in punjab . Punjab is on both sides of border . The language is almost same  on both sides of border . If you think it's Pakistani word then  learn a bit about Punjab and Punjabi language . Secondly , the meaning of the word is  often used for pant like people who have  miss and hit technique and temprament  . Thirdly , where you get those statistics . He was injured for last 2 years . Before it he was in out of the side for most of the time . The only innings  he played well is at last BGT trophy . With this technique and temprament , he almost get failed in 90% of the time . Why should he take place  of Jurel who is solid batsman and delivered you  on 80% of the cases . Last but not lest , I am an Indian and will never waste my time on other country cricket forum . 

[diga]

15 minutes ago, Arvind32 said:

First thing first , Raula katta is a Punjabi word . Which is often used in punjab . Punjab is on both sides of border . The language is almost same  on both sides of border . If you think it's Pakistani word then  learn a bit about Punjab and Punjabi language . Secondly , the meaning of the word is  often used for pant like people who have  miss and hit technique and temprament  . Thirdly , where you get those statistics . He was injured for last 2 years . Before it he was in out of the side for most of the time . The only innings  he played well is at last BGT trophy . With this technique and temprament , he almost get failed in 90% of the time . Why should he take place  of Jurel who is solid batsman and delivered you  on 80% of the cases . Last but not lest , I am an Indian and will never waste my time on other country cricket forum . 

Though I dont agree with you on Jurel replacing Pant, rest of the points I do concur... whenever Pant comes off, his ceiling will be higher than Jurel

[lemsip]

12 minutes ago, Arvind32 said:

First thing first , Raula katta is a Punjabi word . Which is often used in punjab . Punjab is on both sides of border . The language is almost same  on both sides of border . If you think it's Pakistani word then  learn a bit about Punjab and Punjabi language . Secondly , the meaning of the word is  often used for pant like people who have  miss and hit technique and temprament  . Thirdly , where you get those statistics . He was injured for last 2 years . Before it he was in out of the side for most of the time . The only innings  he played well is at last BGT trophy . With this technique and temprament , he almost get failed in 90% of the time . Why should he take place  of Jurel who is solid batsman and delivered you  on 80% of the cases . Last but not lest , I am an Indian and will never waste my time on other country cricket forum . 

Congrats. You seem to be the front runner for the most clueless poster of 2025 !

Jurel's entire test record consists of 4 matches which only includes one outside India in which he failed like everyone else.

You must be smoking some top grade stuff if your interpretation of cricket staistics which are widely available is telling you that Pant is misfiring 90% of the time. 

He is by a distance India's most consistent batsman over the last 5 years before the emergence of jaiswal including before and after his injury. In his last year before the injury he averaged 61 in 2022 and even after missing the first 3/4 of 2024 due to rehab, year he still averaged 36 in 2024 and was the highest scorer in the just concluded domestic test series. In 2021 he averaged almost 40. These are very good numbers for a keeper. In fact he is the only Indian keeper ever to score hundreds in each of Australia, England and SA. That doesn't happen if you are misfiring 90% of the time.

The issue with him currently is that he is batting too high at number 5 and is becoming part of the top order. No country currently uses their keeper like that and being put in that situation time and again after top order collapses especially after long keepeing stints is proving dificult for him to handle as his is an attacking game and he is having to play like a defensive batter most of the time. 

 

 

[Arvind32]

14 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Congrats. You seem to be the front runner for the most clueless poster of 2025 !

Jurel's entire test record consists of 4 matches which only includes one outside India in which he failed like everyone else.

You must be smoking some top grade stuff if your interpretation of cricket staistics which are widely available is telling you that Pant is misfiring 90% of the time. 

He is by a distance India's most consistent batsman over the last 5 years before the emergence of jaiswal including before and after his injury. In his last year before the injury he averaged 61 in 2022 and even after missing the first 3/4 of 2024 due to rehab, year he still averaged 36 in 2024 and was the highest scorer in the just concluded domestic test series. In 2021 he averaged almost 40. These are very good numbers for a keeper. In fact he is the only Indian keeper ever to score hundreds in each of Australia, England and SA. That doesn't happen if you are misfiring 90% of the time.

The issue with him currently is that he is batting too high at number 5 and is becoming part of the top order. No country currently uses their keeper like that and being put in that situation time and again after top order collapses especially after long keepeing stints is proving dificult for him to handle as his is an attacking game and he is having to play like a defensive batter most of the time. 

 

 

You seems to  be pant baghat .  From your writing , I can see you are not mature person that's way you give certificates  to other people about clueless , not , Indian or Pakistani. Perhaps you are just himself drug addicted that you are judging other people with same eyes . 
 

In purely crcket sense , Pant batting currently does not pass street level cricket . Jurel has solid technique and temprament . Not to mention , he has performed well with India and India A . Pant got innings to showcase his talent and did not work out for him and now let's give 4 innings to Jurel and then judge him . 

 

[lemsip]

12 minutes ago, Arvind32 said:

In purely crcket sense , Pant batting currently does not pass street level cricket .

Yes that poor street level technique  is why he managed to average 61 in year 2022 before his injury and averages 53,52 and 22 in each of the 3 series after his return to the side just  4-5 months ago. There is no Indian keeper with anything like his batting record especially overseas.

I don't have any issues with Jurel but to pretend that Pant is a clueless hack who doesn't know how to bat makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously. Jurel can work his way into the side but he will need to put performances up outside home conditions whenever he gets chances. 

[Lord]

4 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

Nah. Indian Express has written too many articles on Rohit over last two days. The focus is on captaincy drama, the tone clearly suggests its Rohit PR and anyone else's. 

 

 

And tell me how suddenly people are talking about Gambhir's selection after six months--

 

 

 

Yeah with GG coming out in press con its clear its Rohit's doing.

 

And now Rohit is set to be dropped. Hats off to GG if this happens 

[Arvind32]

1 minute ago, lemsip said:

Yes that poor street level technique  is why he managed to average 61 in year 2022 before his injury and averages 53,52 and 22 in each of the 3 series after his return to the side just  4-5 months ago. There is no Indian keeper with anything like his batting record especially overseas.

I don't have any issues with Jurel but to pretend that Pant is a clueless hack who doesn't know how to bat makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously. Jurel can work his way into the side but he will need to put performances up outside home conditions whenever he gets chances. 

You cannot judge someone with 1 test innging . When whole team just made  150 score in Perth . He already showed at 2 India A innings that he belonged there in the team . I'm not personally against  pant but he got his rope now it's Jurel or Samson time and see if they can perform . If you think purely on cricketing sense , we only have KL Rahul and Jaiswal as a batsman . Rohit , Pant and Kohli is hit and miss gamble . Nitesh , Jadeha ( very unpredictable  too) and R Sundar are  all rounders . So we just need a batsman who got better technique and temprament . Otherwise replace Rohit or Kohli with better batsmen . 

[VT87]

Pant is quite young ,at this age he can do whatever he wants but consider his fitness and technically ability he will be the  biggest libelity when he cross 30 then all his ugly hoicks and one hand sh@# goes to fielders hand bookmark this his career will end in low 30's

[lemsip]

8 minutes ago, Arvind32 said:

You cannot judge someone with 1 test innging . When whole team just made  150 score in Perth . He already showed at 2 India A innings that he belonged there in the team . I'm not personally against  pant but he got his rope now it's Jurel or Samson time and see if they can perform . If you think purely on cricketing sense , we only have KL Rahul and Jaiswal as a batsman . Rohit , Pant and Kohli is hit and miss gamble . Nitesh , Jadeha ( very unpredictable  too) and R Sundar are  all rounders . So we just need a batsman who got better technique and temprament . Otherwise replace Rohit or Kohli with better batsmen . 

Correct you can't judge on a small sample size but that is exactly what you're doing with Pant in this series which has been the only  modest one for him after a long time . Against NZ on spinning minefields he looked the most accomplished player of spin in either side. Watch a replay of both India innings in Mumbai 2 months ago. While he was at the crease he seemed to be batting on a different surface to the others. Even in the last game he looked more solid than Jaiswal who was playing loosely in the session they batted out unbeaten before his patience gave out. I agree the top order needs solid defensive batsmen and Pant is not temperamentally suited to that. He should not be coming in at 3 down. His best use is at number 7 when he can attack most of the time once the initial threat has been seen off by better equipped defensive batsmen. Every other team uses their keepers like this. It's only India that have shoved their keeper up the order to shore up a failing top order and there is rush to make him the fall guy for the entire team when he makes a mistake which in his case tend to involve more weird shots and unnecessary risks than others