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India is going through transition period in the fast bowling department


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Posted
2 hours ago, tweaker said:

After seeing yesterday's perfomance, Ajit Agarkar,Gambhir should value the perfomance of fast bowlers who can bowl at 140 K speeds.

 

Akashdeep wasn't even  bowled ,even though Siraj and Prasiddh had bowled a long spell.

 

Line and length bowlers Anshul,Shardul, Arshdeep were even not considered for playing in 11 

 

The team management, selection committee, coach,captain should identify next set of 140 + kmph fast bowlers 

Arshdeep can't be clubbed with shardul, kambhoj etc.. he needs to be tried against weaker teams to evaluate his fitness levels first. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Ajit Agarkar should personally look after development of Karthik Tyagi and make sure he plays all the matches in Duleep Trophy and Irani Trophy

Actually these selectors don'evwn know about guys who seldomly play IPL that too for bigger franchises,sad but true

Tyagi offcourse needs to bowl more he plays quite less amount of cricket anyway

 

Posted (edited)

1. Get every 140 k+ pacer to play atleast 6 First class matches per year [ Tests + Ranji + Unofficial Tests for India A + Duleep Trophy etc. combined ]

 

If someone is not playing tests, he must play full Ranji season and A team red ball matches.

 

Harshit, Prasidh, Kuldeep Sen, Tyagi, Umran, Yudhvir, Gurnoor, Apple Tom, Simarjeet ... plus Mayank when fit.

 

It is very important to get their bodies ready for the rigours of bowling 20 overs a day. 

 

 

2. Try the more ready pacers, from the above lot, in international matches against weaker teams. This will test their temperament and get them ready for international matches.

 

Harshit Rana must be in the actual playing 11 in the tests vs the WI.

 

 

3. Get high quality strength and conditioning coaches for Team India and the NCA.

 

They must prepare our pacers' bodies to bowl at near full speed throughout the day.

Edited by express bowling
Posted
11 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Arshdeep can't be clubbed with shardul, kambhoj etc.. he needs to be tried against weaker teams to evaluate his fitness levels first. 

Trundler is trundler. I don't believe in bowlers for test cricket who struggle to cross 135 even in T20s.

Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Trundler is trundler. I don't believe in bowlers for test cricket who struggle to cross 135 even in T20s.

Arey bhaisahab ap trundler enforcer bana lijiye Jo marji kare

Konsi katab me likha hai tez khoon daalne wala jaan maarne wala dil gurda dikhane wala hi enforcer hoga?

Edited by Suhaan
Posted

BCCI has  started  the camp for future fast bowling  stars - The fast Bowlers are Khaleel, Tushar Deshpande, Vijayakumar Vyshak, Yash Thakur, Raj Bawa, Yudhvir Singh,  Anshul Kamboj.

 

The camp should have included Sen,Tyagi also

Posted
26 minutes ago, tweaker said:

BCCI has  started  the camp for future fast bowling  stars - The fast Bowlers are Khaleel, Tushar Deshpande, Vijayakumar Vyshak, Yash Thakur, Raj Bawa, Yudhvir Singh,  Anshul Kamboj.

 

The camp should have included Sen,Tyagi also

Barring few rest are:sick:

Posted
29 minutes ago, tweaker said:

BCCI has  started  the camp for future fast bowling  stars - 

 

The camp should have included Sen,Tyagi also

 

Why no Harshit, Sen, Gurnoor, Tom, Tyagi, Simarjeet ????

 

Assuming Mayank and Umran are still injured. 

Posted
2 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

Akashdeep has played 10 tests, 28 wickets- average 35
Prasidh has played 6 tests, 22 wickets- average 35

Now whether to persist with these two bowlers further for the 3rd fast bowler role is open to debate. Akashdeep has one match winning act as bowler and couple of good batting hits. Useful cricketer. Prasidh, on the contrary,  offers no seconday skills but have height and bounce that no other Indian fast bowler have at the moment.

Already tried ( and hopefuly rejected) - Mukesh, Kamboj, Shardul
Already tried ( and hopefuly get more chances) - Harshit

Harshit, Gurnoor both have height and bounce. Gurnoor is perhaps taller than Prasidh, and a better batsman. Prasidh is quicker pace wise.

 

Akashdeep has competition with Yudhvir. Offers same skillset plus bounce due to his tall high arm action.

Posted
3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Trundler is trundler. I don't believe in bowlers for test cricket who struggle to cross 135 even in T20s.

 

 

We can hope for better things but invariably the need comes for a third seamer and the selectors don't seem to have plenty of options and end up selecting mukesh, khamboj etc. Arshdeep with his track record for India can't be bracketed with those other mediocre bowlers. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Arshdeep can't be clubbed with shardul, kambhoj etc.. he needs to be tried against weaker teams to evaluate his fitness levels first. 

but he already plays FC matches, why waste a test cap just to test someone's fitness levels?

Posted
2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Harshit, Gurnoor both have height and bounce. Gurnoor is perhaps taller than Prasidh, and a better batsman. Prasidh is quicker pace wise.

 

Akashdeep has competition with Yudhvir. Offers same skillset plus bounce due to his tall high arm action.

 

Gurnoor is a nobody at the moment. Not a regular in his state team. First, he need to light up Ranji with few hostile spells before we can even consider him.

 

Yudhvir is better bet than him though. A regular in J&K team and also some good spell in IPL. A potential India A candidate but nowhere near the radar for the Indian team as yet.

 

Harshit is ofcourse next in line. Now why he was not selected for this series is another matter. Maybe fitness is an issue.

Posted
32 minutes ago, Serpico said:

but he already plays FC matches, why waste a test cap just to test someone's fitness levels?

he's already in the pecking order. He should have been tried than Kambhoj and Thakur

Posted
1 hour ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Gurnoor is a nobody at the moment. Not a regular in his state team. First, he need to light up Ranji with few hostile spells before we can even consider him.

 

Yudhvir is better bet than him though. A regular in J&K team and also some good spell in IPL. A potential India A candidate but nowhere near the radar for the Indian team as yet.

 

Harshit is ofcourse next in line. Now why he was not selected for this series is another matter. Maybe fitness is an issue.

Gurnoor is a regular in Punjab Ranji team now 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Gurnoor is a nobody at the moment. Not a regular in his state team. First, he need to light up Ranji with few hostile spells before we can even consider him.

 

Yudhvir is better bet than him though. A regular in J&K team and also some good spell in IPL. A potential India A candidate but nowhere near the radar for the Indian team as yet.

 

Harshit is ofcourse next in line. Now why he was not selected for this series is another matter. Maybe fitness is an issue.

Both Yudhvir & Gurnoor were a nobody till last year.

2024-25 Ranji season, they both played regularly for their respective teams.

 

Let's not use IPL as a parameter, it gives unnecessary advantage to trundlers coz the pitches slow down and red ball prospects travel as they "lack variation".

 

Ranji needs to be the primary criteria for bowlers, and all games should have speedometer. Else we will keep on getting Kamboj's or Patel's who will trundle at 125k.

Edited by singhvivek141

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