EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 So, after we lost a few jets in the opening days of the war, we regrouped and struck air bases deep inside Pakistan? So, their AD systems couldn't stop the initial attack and couldn't stop the follow up attacks of their air bases getting cratered even after we lost a few jets? How is our air prowess not vindicated? raki05 1
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 (edited) An IAF expert, with close knowledge of the matter, told EurAsian Times on condition of anonymity, that India lost its jets not to Pakistan’s brilliance or its Chinese jets, but more due to ‘playing clean’ strategy and avoiding doing anything that would hamper its global reputation. The expert said, “IAF did not get full clearance” and refused to provide any further information. https://www.eurasiantimes.com/iaf-did-not-get-clearance-expert-says-after-india-confirms-it-lost-fighter-jets-during-india-pak-clash/?amp Edited June 1, 2025 by EnterTheVoid raki05 1
rangeelaraja Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 27 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: An IAF expert, with close knowledge of the matter, told EurAsian Times on condition of anonymity, that India lost its jets not to Pakistan’s brilliance or its Chinese jets, but more due to ‘playing clean’ strategy and avoiding doing anything that would hamper its global reputation. The expert said, “IAF did not get full clearance” and refused to provide any further information. https://www.eurasiantimes.com/iaf-did-not-get-clearance-expert-says-after-india-confirms-it-lost-fighter-jets-during-india-pak-clash/?amp They never shut down their civilian airspace and themselves fired from densely populated areas so that if India takes out a target that results in civilian casualties - India would be held accountable. Hope the next time - we dont show any mercy and just bleed the dog that Pak is -- till it dies ravishingravi, EnterTheVoid and raki05 1 2
kepler37b Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 That CDS has such a defeatist body language and tone. The dude must be spokesperson of local kabristan. Not an aggressive army. raki05 1
kepler37b Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 54 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: An IAF expert, with close knowledge of the matter, told EurAsian Times on condition of anonymity, that India lost its jets not to Pakistan’s brilliance or its Chinese jets, but more due to ‘playing clean’ strategy and avoiding doing anything that would hamper its global reputation. The expert said, “IAF did not get full clearance” and refused to provide any further information. https://www.eurasiantimes.com/iaf-did-not-get-clearance-expert-says-after-india-confirms-it-lost-fighter-jets-during-india-pak-clash/?amp I have come to this troubling conclusion. India as a nation does not have even 1 percent of stomach for losses as Russians. The randi rona on tootar is so pathetic. EnterTheVoid and raki05 1 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 56 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: but more due to ‘playing clean’ strategy and avoiding doing anything that would hamper its global reputation Classic India is a land of buddha not yuddha.. Vasudev Kutumbukum. Gandhiji would be proud of it. May 10 2025 should be watershed moment in Indian defence doctrine. The actual Operation Sindoor happened that day not May 7. EnterTheVoid 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 40 billion dollars in aid to Pakistan ... Anglos really are the most evil breed to exist on this planet
rangeelaraja Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 (edited) https://www.msn.com/en-xl/asia/pakistan/world-bank-commits-40-billion-to-pakistan-under-10-year-partnership-framework/ar-AA1FHCH2 Giving 40 billion dollars to Pak now ...is not a coincidence. There is a lobby working against India on all fronts - not because they like Pak, but its because they fear the rise of India and what it would become in 20 years. Notice the question is always - how many jets did India lost The question is never about - how many assets of Pak were destroyed inside those dozen or so hangars that were flattened. The question is also never about how India smashed the length and breath of Pak without any resistance against Chinese shitty air defences. We should do what we can entirely control - for *s sake - forget all ethics and being merciful for once when dealing with a snake like Pak that deserves to have its head severed. Deny water when Pak farmers need it most - create such massive food shortages in Pak. And as Modi Ji - corporate India should wake the * up - cut down less critical chinese imports by atleast 50 % by making home. Edited June 1, 2025 by rangeelaraja singhvivek141, EnterTheVoid and raki05 2 1
raki05 Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 (edited) 11 hours ago, Vickydev said: For some reason western media has been obsessed with our lost jets from Day 1. Not just western media many indians . These chutiyas are more concerned why indians are lying as if each indians were getting live telecast of whats happening on border. Also just because western media and poorkis were keep repeating it all of India should have accepted it . We all accepted whatever our defence forces says. Somehow the outcome of this war is all anout how many jets india lost and not about how many airbases, Air defence systems, pilots , fighter jets and awacs pakistani lost. Edited June 1, 2025 by raki05 Vickydev, rangeelaraja and singhvivek141 3
kepler37b Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 Just saw a ANI tweet where the hindus living in poonch were asking for compensation for the shelling. Just wondering why hindus think on a basis of atomized family? Do they not realize that losses are inevitable when you are fighting a common enemy? raki05, rangeelaraja and singhvivek141 1 2
raki05 Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, sandeep said: yep, it might be militarily 'silly' to not attack ADS, but strategically and optically it was the right call. Yes, it led to losing a few jets - but that is also because the operational tactics weren't good enough to manage the risk - credit to PAF they used the AWACS to network-target well beyond the range that IAF was expecting - its credit to them, and demerits to our guys - who exposed a chink in tactics that PAF fully utilized. Good that they learnt from it. **** happens. Overall they did well. Who did well….. looks like you were eagerly waiting for something like this(interview) since start, aur ab ja ke itney dino ki frustration (sleepless nights) vent out karney ka mauka mila.. Just because you stay in US and lick Pakistani @ss to earn some dollar dont think everyone should abide by it. Pakistani and each one of them are enemy to each and every indian so don’t preach this bullshit we cant do discrimination to a particular ethnicity, you cant do as you are timid person and worrying about your job and lifestyle in US but dont generalise this for each and every Indian. Edited June 1, 2025 by raki05 singhvivek141 and sandeep 1 1
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 Looks like IAF got screwed by policy. Seems they had authorisation to target the terrorist infrastructure but not any military targets. In targeting their terrorist infrastructure, we got targeted ourselves. Once the red line was crossed, we went after their military and cratered their airports. raki05, Lone Wolf and rangeelaraja 1 2
Suhaan Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: I have come to this troubling conclusion. India as a nation does not have even 1 percent of stomach for losses as Russians. The randi rona on tootar is so pathetic. This ,these guys will cry a river in a full scale war It's a nation which goes by fake narration and propaganda , without acknowledging the objectives which were laid whether were they accomplished or not? These are weak sissy panty men But the chest thumping that why didn't we continue for two more days reeked their hypocrisy or whatever you may call it singhvivek141 and raki05 2
rangeelaraja Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 (edited) 21 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: Looks like IAF got screwed by policy. Seems they had authorisation to target the terrorist infrastructure but not any military targets. In targeting their terrorist infrastructure, we got targeted ourselves. Once the red line was crossed, we went after their military and cratered their airports. It is a stupid bloody policy for PR and shows insincerity and lack of resolve and vision. Everybody knows that the terrorists in Pak are like cockroaches - you eliminate 100, 100 more would join immediately. The real head of the snake is the PakMil that should have been beaten like a mad dog from the very beginning. i don’t know when the Indian govt will have the courage and common sense to call out the Pak military as the fountainhead of terror rather than just talking about LeT, JeM, Masood and Hafiz Saeed. All these are just bloody pawns of Pak army. We have lost our brave soldiers and officers fighting these pigs, and yet don’t attack the Pak army directly. A big shame on the decision makers if you can’t directly pummel the bastard Pak army. Edited June 1, 2025 by rangeelaraja EnterTheVoid and raki05 1 1
rangeelaraja Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 The sureshot way to crush Paks fake propoganda that is fully supported by Chinese 10 cent army on twitter is to push the LOC to the west. Just get a strike core to push forward in a few areas and secure it fully and then make it public. raki05 1
raki05 Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 9 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: It is a stupid bloody policy for PR and shows insincerity and lack of resolve and vision. Everybody knows that the terrorists in Pak are like cockroaches - you eliminate 100, 100 more would join immediately. The real head of the snake is the PakMil that should have been beaten like a mad dog from the very beginning. i don’t know when the Indian govt will have the courage and common sense to call out the Pak military as the fountainhead of terror rather than just talking about LeT, JeM, Masood and Hafiz Saeed. All these are just bloody pawns of Pak army. We have lost our brave soldiers and officers fighting these pigs, and yet don’t attack the Pak army directly. A big shame on the decision makers if you can’t directly pummel the bastard Pak army. I believe by the end of war the precedent has been set that any act of terror would be act of war!!! EnterTheVoid, Suhaan and rangeelaraja 3
Lone Wolf Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 If not for Pakjabi army's stupidity to show their retarded awaam that they won't stay silent...they gave us an opportunity to rectify our mistakes and better sense prevailed when we finally smoked their military infrastructure. Otherwise this op was going to be just like another Balakot. I repeatedly said smoking terror outposts and even killing Hafiz Masood Azhar would never be enough.. not even close. Indian people are too emotional to see the bigger picture. Leadership also has similar mindset sadly. P@k military should have been long declared as dedicated rogue terror outfit and treated as such.
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 (edited) 27 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: It is a stupid bloody policy for PR and shows insincerity and lack of resolve and vision. Everybody knows that the terrorists in Pak are like cockroaches - you eliminate 100, 100 more would join immediately. The real head of the snake is the PakMil that should have been beaten like a mad dog from the very beginning. i don’t know when the Indian govt will have the courage and common sense to call out the Pak military as the fountainhead of terror rather than just talking about LeT, JeM, Masood and Hafiz Saeed. All these are just bloody pawns of Pak army. We have lost our brave soldiers and officers fighting these pigs, and yet don’t attack the Pak army directly. A big shame on the decision makers if you can’t directly pummel the bastard Pak army. I agree. India tried to differentiate between Pak Military and Pak terrorist infrastructure, hence the narrative of targeting terrorist camps and not their military installations. They are too intertwined and are one and the same. India still came out with the upper hand IMO. The doctrine has shifted. May 7th - India will target terror infrastructure in Pak directly without asking for any approval and permission. May 10th - India will target Pak army directly. Happy to see their air bases cratered. For a country that bled India with a thousand cuts without facing any real reprisals, I think May 10th was a big shift in how India engages in the future Edited June 1, 2025 by EnterTheVoid rangeelaraja and raki05 1 1
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2025 Posted June 1, 2025 12 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: If not for Pakjabi army's stupidity to show their retarded awaam that they won't stay silent...they gave us an opportunity to rectify our mistakes and better sense prevailed when we finally smoked their military infrastructure. They gave us an opportunity to target their military infrastructure directly. Must be worry for their country that they can't stop Indian missiles. Everything India targeted, they hit. Everything they targeted, they missed. Lone Wolf and raki05 1 1
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