Congress and 26/11

[gattaca]

Chidambaram made statement that U.S. asked India not to react after 26/11. The Congress government at that time didn’t do anything after. 
 

Did Congress any nationalist leaders at that time ? I am surprised they all kept mum on this issue. This is strange. From Indira Gandhi who was a nationalist the party became nothing no ideals. 

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, gattaca said:

Chidambaram made statement that U.S. asked India not to react after 26/11. The Congress government at that time didn’t do anything after. 
 

Did Congress any nationalist leaders at that time ? I am surprised they all kept mum on this issue. This is strange. From Indira Gandhi who was a nationalist the party became nothing no ideals. 

Congress has been in a downward trajectory post the Sonia-era. PVNR was the last legit nationalist in Congress.
Each and every influential Congress politician is a Sonia-Rahul fanboy first. Those who aren't get sidelined or wiped away. Likes of MadhavRao Scindia and Rajesh Pilot are some of the names which were "cleared" out. Sachin Pilot is sidelined coz he was seen as a challenger to RaGa.

Indira was helped due to strong presence of USSR, she was the most loyal KGB politician in our history, hence US couldn't pressurize her beyond a limit. That's not the case post Soviet's disintegration. 

[Gollum]

Yasin Malik recently revealed (in a signed affidavit to Delhi HC) that PM Manmohan Singh thanked him for meeting Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan. I just don't understand the party. 

 

Same Yasin who was convicted of murdering 4 IAF men in cold blood. 

 

[Gollum]

India's non-response post 26/11 will remain the most cowardly action by any government in modern history. Even a Bhutan would have responded after such a ghastly attack perpetrated by a neighboring country. 

 

Then came spineless Manmohan's surrender in Sharm-El-Shaikh. 

 

Post Sonia's takeover, Congress has stopped giving a damn about India, just that one family. 

 

 

[gattaca]

33 minutes ago, Gollum said:

India's non-response post 26/11 will remain the most cowardly action by any government in modern history. Even a Bhutan would have responded after such a ghastly attack perpetrated by a neighboring country. 

 

Then came spineless Manmohan's surrender in Sharm-El-Shaikh. 

 

Post Sonia's takeover, Congress has stopped giving a damn about India, just that one family. 

 

 

 

It was the time to hit all targets in Pakistan we had a good enough reason and the world with us. No one could question after seeing the images. Congress inaction and blaming RSS for votes was cheap. I still wonder how they won election after 26/11.

Edited October 1, 2025 by gattaca

[Gollum]

If not for the brave Tukaram Omble, it would have been passed off as Hindu terror, that was Congress' plan all along. All the attackers were wearing saffron kalwa.

 

Btw why are these people free? Why is Mahesh Bhatt still enjoying a lavish lifestyle? His own son was in contact with Headley during his recce. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2025 by Gollum

[Lone Wolf]

Intresting turn of events this... All of this Post hard earned Civil Nuclear Deal, US must have had considerable leverage over the UPA government that Chidambaram has revealed.

2003-4 under Vajpayee similar tactics were successfully employed by US when India didn't gave any sort of response to Pakistan during Parliament attacks... Even after Kaluchak Massacre which nearly pushed us to the brink of full fledged war.

 

2009 when India tried to counter this by signing agreements with CCP ... It was the beginning of the end for UPA.

 

Regime change operation began with full steam.

You cannot cross US deep state and expect to remain unscathed.

A hard learned lesson for future.   2008 and India of 2035 would be totally different though with much more leverage in their corner 

[G_B_]

38 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Intresting turn of events this... All of this Post hard earned Civil Nuclear Deal, US must have had considerable leverage over the UPA government that Chidambaram has revealed.

2003-4 under Vajpayee similar tactics were successfully employed by US when India didn't gave any sort of response to Pakistan during Parliament attacks... Even after Kaluchak Massacre which nearly pushed us to the brink of full fledged war.

 

2009 when India tried to counter this by signing agreements with CCP ... It was the beginning of the end for UPA.

 

Regime change operation began with full steam.

You cannot cross US deep state and expect to remain unscathed.

A hard learned lesson for future.   2008 and India of 2035 would be totally different though with much more leverage in their corner 

 

Or rather than blaming everything at the door of the deep state we realise inflation was double digits towards end of upa 2 and india was part of the fragile 5. This was due to flawed fiscally loose economic policies.

 

 

 

 

 

[ravishingravi]

8 hours ago, G_B_ said:

 

Or rather than blaming everything at the door of the deep state we realise inflation was double digits towards end of upa 2 and india was part of the fragile 5. This was due to flawed fiscally loose economic policies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This. Deep state deserves credit but majority of achievement was the Congress party. They had BJP on the map. I guess deep state made them screw up CWG. 

[crictime]

There was no action agaubst Pakistan even after serial blasts in Mumbai. Same was observed after the Taj Mahal attack. Those governments did not care what happened to Mumbaites.

 

Even during the Bhiwandi riots, if not for SS and BT things would have been worse for hindus. Dawood, Vadararajan, Chota Shakeel, Karim Lala, Haji Mastan prospered in a certain political environment. It was only SS which stood up and police too depended on sone to settle down the things. Communists too were a pain for Mumbai.

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, crictime said:

There was no action agaubst Pakistan even after serial blasts in Mumbai. Same was observed after the Taj Mahal attack. Those governments did not care what happened to Mumbaites.

 

Even during the Bhiwandi riots, if not for SS and BT things would have been worse for hindus. Dawood, Vadararajan, Chota Shakeel, Karim Lala, Haji Mastan prospered in a certain political environment. It was only SS which stood up and police too depended on sone to settle down the things. Communists too were a pain for Mumbai.

They destroyed the entire mill industry of Mumbai.

That led to rise of joblessness and resentment, people started looking for x,y,z means to run their home. Which led to rise of Underworld.

[crictime]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

They destroyed the entire mill industry of Mumbai.

That led to rise of joblessness and resentment, people started looking for x,y,z means to run their home. Which led to rise of Underworld.

Datta Samant was the trade union leader. He also founded the Maharashtra Girni Kamgar Union. This was during the time of A R Antulay, the only Muslim CM Maharashtra had. In fact Antulays governemnt collapsed during one of the strike started by Datta Samant . SS opposed this strike. In Godrej one Shiv Sainik was attacked by Datta Samant party. Then a fight ensued between SS union and Datta Samant union im which one police officer and two policemen died. The strike started by Datta Samant kost thw ibtensity and Datta died as bullets were fired at him. SS said that Datta Samant died because of his karma.

 

There was a tussle between Dtta Samant and SS wrt demanding rights for mill workers. Sena today has a union in almost many organisations like BOB, New India Assurance etc. 

 

SS had silent sypport of Congress, especially when Sharad Pawar had close ties with BT. This was in formatibe years of SS  and also before SS contested their first election.

 

At one point BT also invited Dange who headed the communist to give speech at Savarkar Smarak at Dadar. 

[crictime]

During those times there was a attemot to raise voice for mill workers. BT had started the Bhartiya Kamgar Sena. He appointed Dattaji Salvi as BKS president and Arun Mehta as general secretary. Both were part of trade union activities. Dattaji Salvi, was was ex factory worker, had been part of the Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh affiliated to Congress, and Mehta had been  affiliated with the Indian National Trade Union Congress  before he joined the Sena.  The sons of the soil movement or bhoomiputra moment gathered pace during voicing demands of mill workers. 

 

It was even alleged that SS had set up BKS with support of congress and industrialists to throw out communists control in factorues.