jf1gp_1 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 7 hours ago, maniac said: So injustice will be done to Sanju in Odis now , I don’t think Gill is that petty though and Samson seems like a 0 conflict guy. Even I would be surprised if Gill has done it however if Gill has indeed done it then I can't see him leading India. Gambhir + Agarkar are going to make sure he is out.
maniac Posted March 14 Posted March 14 KL Rahul- 2021 WT20, 2022 WT20, 2023 WC, 2019 semifinal most of the tournaments he was one of the culprits. Never won an IPL. finally won CT in 2025. Samson- 2 WT20 wins- 100% strike rate. One on the bench and one as player. on the panauti factor itself is- Samson it is. velu, New guy and Ultimate_Game 1 2
diga Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Samson's odi career will depend on Rohit-kohli's form as he is primarily a top order player rather than a finisher , the kind of pitches we anticipate for 2027 odi world cup and KL's glove work Ultimate_Game 1
bowl_out Posted March 15 Posted March 15 2 hours ago, diga said: Samson's odi career will depend on Rohit-kohli's form as he is primarily a top order player rather than a finisher , the kind of pitches we anticipate for 2027 odi world cup and KL's glove work He has done a decent job as a middle order bat as well in ODIs
Suhaan Posted March 16 Posted March 16 34 minutes ago, Manucrick said: Which champion trophy did I miss something. Paindu face of the year rollingstoned 1
Manucrick Posted March 16 Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: Paindu face of the year Winning captain champion trophy
vvvslaxman Posted March 16 Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Manucrick said: Which champion trophy did I miss something. Rohit didn't come i think. SO on behalf he got .
Manucrick Posted March 16 Posted March 16 48 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Rohit didn't come i think. SO on behalf he got . Yes Rohit didn't come but giving him the tag like this is crazy Gill is a BCCI favorite and they’re trying to turn him into the new Kohli The difference is that Kohli became a star on his own whereas the BCCI is pushing way too hard to make Gill the next big thing Tillu and vvvslaxman 2
Suhaan Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Manucrick said: Yes Rohit didn't come but giving him the tag like this is crazy Gill is a BCCI favorite and they’re trying to turn him into the new Kohli The difference is that Kohli became a star on his own whereas the BCCI is pushing way too hard to make Gill the next big thing Actually no matter how we loose at home,BCCI rates red ball cricket bit higher Him being red ball captain does make one believe BCCI treats him that way maybe they tried to put him infront as Kohli but he failed big time there and shouldn't be in their plans for that specific format But Gill knows he is not Kohli nor he willbe pampered like him,he needs to buckle up in odis and red ball soon Edited March 16 by Suhaan Manucrick 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Is Samson the best player of slow ball. THe way he waits is something others can learn. DUbe ji playing with Smason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90Z6cmjvvg Manucrick 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 17 Posted March 17 15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Is Samson the best player of slow ball. THe way he waits is something others can learn. DUbe ji playing with Smason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90Z6cmjvvg I'll only believe it when Sanju is able to take on Harshal "slower one" Patel vvvslaxman 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 17 Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: I'll only believe it when Sanju is able to take on Harshal "slower one" Patel Watching some of the insane videos from this insane bunch. over the last 2 years. Watching South African series. Damn. what hitting by samson and Tilak. Some of the shots Sanju plays there are ridiculous. How the heck they chose to bring GIll over Sanju. Idiots. Manucrick and rollingstoned 2
Ultimate_Game Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Watching some of the insane videos from this insane bunch. over the last 2 years. Watching South African series. Damn. what hitting by samson and Tilak. Some of the shots Sanju plays there are ridiculous. How the heck they chose to bring GIll over Sanju. Idiots. Our T20 team improved so much after we let the oldies go. The ceiling for that team was 180 on a good day and now we manage 200 on average and 250+ on a good day. Wonder where're the geniuses who kept on saying that we don't have talent and we'll struggle if we don't go with seniors and that they were keeping us afloat by simply taking us to the knockouts. We wouldn't have gone decade without an ICC tourney if we had gone with deserving performers instead of sticking with seniors for more than a decade. We trusted youngsters twice - in 2020-21 BGT and now this WT20 and we won both! The BGT series win in Aus should've been the eye opener for selectors but as usual they preferred to keep the star culture alive instead of backing youngsters and winning with them. The result was failures in 2021 WT20, 2022 WT20 and the 2024 BGT where the two "seniors" were the reason we lost the series when youngsters did their best to keep us afloat. vvvslaxman, rollingstoned and Manucrick 3
vvvslaxman Posted March 17 Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Our T20 team improved so much after we let the oldies go. The ceiling for that team was 180 on a good day and now we manage 200 on average and 250+ on a good day. Wonder where're the geniuses who kept on saying that we don't have talent and we'll struggle if we don't go with seniors and that they were keeping us afloat by simply taking us to the knockouts. We wouldn't have gone decade without an ICC tourney if we had gone with deserving performers instead of sticking with seniors for more than a decade. We trusted youngsters twice - in 2020-21 BGT and now this WT20 and we won both! The BGT series win in Aus should've been the eye opener for selectors but as usual they preferred to keep the star culture alive instead of backing youngsters and winning with them. The result was failures in 2021 WT20, 2022 WT20 and the 2024 BGT where the two "seniors" were the reason we lost the series when youngsters did their best to keep us afloat. Yes. If only we pick players based on merit we will be unstoppable. Even in Tests. rollingstoned, Manucrick and Ultimate_Game 1 2
Ultimate_Game Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes. If only we pick players based on merit we will be unstoppable. Even in Tests. We carried middle order of Pujara, Rahane and Kohli forever where our lower order and bowlers had to carry the load. Kohli by himself was carried for nearly 6 years! And it was bowlers who were blamed despite him being the worst no. 4 across all teams for that period. If we had meritocracy the way Aussies had, we would've already won in SA by now and not drawn in Eng or lost BGT in Aus. We're doing the same thing in ODIs with oldies not letting it go and we're stuck with the seniors as usual. We're gonna lose the next ODI WC thanks to the same oldies which were never able to take us across the line for nearly decade and a half. And that despite having the world's best bowler in the world on their side! And Bumrah and Shami had to take the blame despite the seniors failing as usual in knockouts. I don't expect things to change in 2027 as along with the same seniors we have softie Gill as well. Manucrick 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: We carried middle order of Pujara, Rahane and Kohli forever where our lower order and bowlers had to carry the load. Kohli by himself was carried for nearly 6 years! And it was bowlers who were blamed despite him being the worst no. 4 across all teams for that period. If we had meritocracy the way Aussies had, we would've already won in SA by now and not drawn in Eng or lost BGT in Aus. We're doing the same thing in ODIs with oldies not letting it go and we're stuck with the seniors as usual. We're gonna lose the next ODI WC thanks to the same oldies which were never able to take us across the line for nearly decade and a half. And that despite having the world's best bowler in the world on their side! And Bumrah and Shami had to take the blame despite the seniors failing as usual in knockouts. I don't expect things to change in 2027 as along with the same seniors we have softie Gill as well. This is why i don't get a good vibe about 2027 world cup. By now we should have had a settled side with Jaiswal being a lynch pin of the side. Rohit sharma would score like 30 in 20 balls and get out . Total liability on the field. Manucrick 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 17 Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: This is why i don't get a good vibe about 2027 world cup. By now we should have had a settled side with Jaiswal being a lynch pin of the side. Rohit sharma would score like 30 in 20 balls and get out . Total liability on the field. If we go with the current ODI team our ceiling is semi-final and most probably will crash out before that. Rohit can't even last till PP overs most of the time, Gill is a softie as we've seen and Kohli won't be able to be the difference in an ODI tourney. Then we have Jadeja who should've been kicked out of LOI teams a decade ago and will be useless in SA. We've right-handed batting order and they'll struggle as they usually do. They need to add a couple of lefties in the top order (Jaiswal and one of Sai or Tilak) but that would mean doing away with oldies and we all know it won't happen. So we need to wait the oldies out and poor Bumrah will finish his career without an ODI world cup thanks to the seniors who dragged the team down for 2 decades Manucrick 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 17 Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: If we go with the current ODI team our ceiling is semi-final and most probably will crash out before that. Rohit can't even last till PP overs most of the time, Gill is a softie as we've seen and Kohli won't be able to be the difference in an ODI tourney. Then we have Jadeja who should've been kicked out of LOI teams a decade ago and will be useless in SA. We've right-handed batting order and they'll struggle as they usually do. They need to add a couple of lefties in the top order (Jaiswal and one of Sai or Tilak) but that would mean doing away with oldies and we all know it won't happen. So we need to wait the oldies out and poor Bumrah will finish his career without an ODI world cup thanks to the seniors who dragged the team down for 2 decades To cap it off perennial world cup flop Kela. From an unselfish T20 unit to selfish ODI unit. Hardik will sure miss a game or two with his fitness. No Shami. This is going to be a nightmare i think Manucrick and Ultimate_Game 1 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 17 Posted March 17 41 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: To cap it off perennial world cup flop Kela. From an unselfish T20 unit to selfish ODI unit. Hardik will sure miss a game or two with his fitness. No Shami. This is going to be a nightmare i think Unless they take some hard decisions, we'll struggle. A batting lineup full of right-handers and too many seniors isn't gonna win you the tourney. The ceiling for this lineup is scoring 280-300 when we should be looking at targeting 340-350. It's gonna fall on our bowlers to raise their games as they've always done in the past. We need some fresh blood and need to add Jaiswal and Tilak or Sai in the mix along with kicking out Jadeja. If we don't do this, we're done. vvvslaxman 1
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