Usman Khwaja's victim mentality and hypocrisy.

[Vancouver]

 

[putrevus]

They guy who is giving comments  is not suprising a white moron who has no understanding on how racism exists and works.

 

Khawaja  is 100%  entitled to give his opinion. This moron who is giving commentary needs to get his head out of his behind and get in real world.

 

Scams are not limited to immigrant only, crooks do scams.

Edited January 12 by putrevus

[urbestfriend]

4 hours ago, putrevus said:

They guy who is giving comments  is not suprising a white moron who has no understanding on how racism exists and works.

 

Khawaja  is 100%  entitled to give his opinion. This moron who is giving commentary needs to get his head out of his behind and get in real world.

 

Scams are not limited to immigrant only, crooks do scams.

I agree.  Racism happens of such white superiority and brown kids always feel inferior , and have to do extra. Unless this moron knows exactly what he has gone through, this white guy has no business dismissing his comments.

[Zero_Unit]

1 hour ago, urbestfriend said:

I agree.  Racism happens of such white superiority and brown kids always feel inferior , and have to do extra. Unless this moron knows exactly what he has gone through, this white guy has no business dismissing his comments.

Though I agree with every word you stated, retirement speech should not have included those comments. 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, urbestfriend said:

I agree.  Racism happens of such white superiority and brown kids always feel inferior , and have to do extra. Unless this moron knows exactly what he has gone through, this white guy has no business dismissing his comments.

 

That looked so bad and almost felt like below the belt knock at Australian cricket. If he had something to say he could've waited a few months after retirement and talked about the topic at length. But the timing and the statement he made, it looked like Khawaja had an axe to grind.

[vvvslaxman]

13 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

Though I agree with every word you stated, retirement speech should not have included those comments. 

This was my take as well. This is the occasion you celebrate your cricket career along with the guys who helped you get there. I watched several podcasts talking about Usman. They all loved that he was different and loved talking about uncomfortable subjects.  Basically, the people who surrounded him helped him through. So could have waited. 

Rachin Ravindra has also stated that it is a little bit harder for others to get to the top level.  

[New guy]

28 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

Though I agree with every word you stated, retirement speech should not have included those comments. 

So when is the right time to bring these issues up so next generation is not affected?

 

Racsim apologizers will always have issues no matter when such issues are brought up.

 

If someone takes a knee during a match, its not a right way or right time. If someone protests during their career its not the right time. Its not a right time during commentary. Its not the right time during retirement.

 

When is the right time for racism apologizers? NEVER. They will always whine no matter when its brought up

 

Retirement speech is the perfect time because you have all eyes on you and millions of people watching. No one will watch a small interview with an already retired person, later. Also, I can guarantee the same people would whine about why he didnt bring it up earlier.

 

 

Racism is a huge thing and more players should use every single chance to highlight the topic. Why are you trying to limit when someone brings up important topics instead of encouraging more players to do this more often?

Edited January 13 by New guy

[New guy]

25 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

That looked so bad and almost felt like below the belt knock at Australian cricket. If he had something to say he could've waited a few months after retirement and talked about the topic at length. But the timing and the statement he made, it looked like Khawaja had an axe to grind.

Why should he wait when he has less audience and less media on him? How does this make any sense?

 

If you had an important issue you wanted to highlight, would you wait after retirement so you could go to a small interview which no one watches or would you want it in front of entire TV and media when all eyes are on you and millions of people watching?

 

It makes zero sense what people are saying here. If you think an issue is important to highlight you will say it at an important moment when more people are watching and not wait for afterwards when a small audience will watch or care. No one cares what retired players have to say.

Edited January 13 by New guy

[New guy]

8 hours ago, Vancouver said:

 

Great, another brown uncle Tom licking boots of white masters downplaying racism and sharing clearly racist videos. There seems to be a billion of you guys in India for some reason, who have to boot lick white racist boots and downplay racism against brown people. I guess people like you would love to be unquestioning slaves of these white racist masters.

 

I really hope those white boots taste yummy to you

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, New guy said:

Why should he wait when he has less audience and less media on him? How does this make any sense?

 

If you had an important issue you wanted to highlight, would you wait after retirement so you could go to a small interview which no one watches or would you want it in front of entire TV and media when all eyes are on you and millions of people watching?

 

It makes zero sense what people are saying here. If you think an issue is important to highlight you will say it at an important moment when more people are watching and not wait for afterwards when a small audience will watch or care. No one cares what retired players have to say.

 

There's a time and place for everything. He should've called these things out earlier or waited a couple of months after retirement. Doing it right when Cricket Australia was celebrating him and planning send offs did come out as poor timing on his part. He could've focused on the positives at the time and then focused on systemic issues and challenges later on once some time had lapsed.

[New guy]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

There's a time and place for everything. He should've called these things out earlier or waited a couple of months after retirement. Doing it right when Cricket Australia was celebrating him and planning send offs did come out as poor timing on his part. He could've focused on the positives at the time and then focused on systemic issues and challenges later on once some time had lapsed.

But why? If you want to bring a big issue to limelight, thats exactly the right moment to do so. You are again pointing to lesser moments, but this moment was exactly right because much more people watched and because it led to these discussions. Doing it during a big celebratory moment and when people are engaging in send off is the best moment for most limelight for the issue. Otherwise in lesser moments it will again be quietly swept under the rug.

 

Why would anyone listen to him talking about systematic issues after few months? No one listened to him when he was playing. Doing things quietly behind the scenes hasnt worked for many decades and it still continues. Why would he do the same thing which doesnt yield results?

 

The only way to get actual results is to make people uncomfortable and to make the issue public in the highest possible forums. So he chose the exact right moment and now more people are talking and discussing about it.

[The Hound]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

Great, another brown uncle Tom licking boots of white masters downplaying racism and sharing clearly racist videos. There seems to be a billion of you guys in India for some reason, who have to boot lick white racist boots and downplay racism against brown people. I guess people like you would love to be unquestioning slaves of these white racist masters.

 

I really hope those white boots taste yummy to you

Looking at all the brown sepoys on social media, no wonder gora britishers ruled this country for years lol

[Zero_Unit]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

So when is the right time to bring these issues up so next generation is not affected?

 

Racsim apologizers will always have issues no matter when such issues are brought up.

 

If someone takes a knee during a match, its not a right way or right time. If someone protests during their career its not the right time. Its not a right time during commentary. Its not the right time during retirement.

 

When is the right time for racism apologizers? NEVER. They will always whine no matter when its brought up

 

Retirement speech is the perfect time because you have all eyes on you and millions of people watching. No one will watch a small interview with an already retired person, later. Also, I can guarantee the same people would whine about why he didnt bring it up earlier.

 

 

Racism is a huge thing and more players should use every single chance to highlight the topic. Why are you trying to limit when someone brings up important topics instead of encouraging more players to do this more often?

I agree about the racism part and it's a huge thing and everyone facing it should speak up no matter what. But If it was upto me, I would do it after my retirement speech. This was his retirement speech. Usually best to leave it in a happy ending moment, thank your peers, family members, people who guided you, etc. He has represented Australia around 15 years, so clearly was Australia's core member for a long time, that deserves to be sent off with sweet memories. Again, Just the way I would prefer it.

Edited January 13 by Zero_Unit

[goose]

there's an up and coming aussie harjas singh (hit the fastest triple in grade cricket or something like that). he's got a massive f%ck off beard and turban. i bet he'll be just fine

[Ultimate_Game]

10 hours ago, New guy said:

But why? If you want to bring a big issue to limelight, thats exactly the right moment to do so. You are again pointing to lesser moments, but this moment was exactly right because much more people watched and because it led to these discussions. Doing it during a big celebratory moment and when people are engaging in send off is the best moment for most limelight for the issue. Otherwise in lesser moments it will again be quietly swept under the rug.

 

Why would anyone listen to him talking about systematic issues after few months? No one listened to him when he was playing. Doing things quietly behind the scenes hasnt worked for many decades and it still continues. Why would he do the same thing which doesnt yield results?

 

The only way to get actual results is to make people uncomfortable and to make the issue public in the highest possible forums. So he chose the exact right moment and now more people are talking and discussing about it.

 

Nope, I disagree. There's a time and place for everything. Think it this way... you're quitting a workplace/organization which wasn't ideal and you had challenges there. You've put in your papers and moving on, and they host a farewell get-together. Will you wash dirty laundry then or focus on positives and move on?

I would do the latter and probably provide feedback behind closed doors. That's what Khwaja should've done. Celebrated his farewell and then had a follow up with CA behind closed doors regarding systemic issues. Him focusing on negatives at that time seemed out of place. That's my way of thinking and others may disagree.

[putrevus]

14 hours ago, New guy said:

So when is the right time to bring these issues up so next generation is not affected?

 

Racsim apologizers will always have issues no matter when such issues are brought up.

 

If someone takes a knee during a match, its not a right way or right time. If someone protests during their career its not the right time. Its not a right time during commentary. Its not the right time during retirement.

 

When is the right time for racism apologizers? NEVER. They will always whine no matter when its brought up

 

Retirement speech is the perfect time because you have all eyes on you and millions of people watching. No one will watch a small interview with an already retired person, later. Also, I can guarantee the same people would whine about why he didnt bring it up earlier.

 

 

Racism is a huge thing and more players should use every single chance to highlight the topic. Why are you trying to limit when someone brings up important topics instead of encouraging more players to do this more often?

On contrary to many views here.Him bringing this up at the time of retirement was perfect timing.People need to hear uncomfortable truth and keeping hearing things till things change.

 

Countries like Australia and America belong to natives , all others are immigrants there just number of generations is the difference.

 

No one has done him any favour in selecting him, he got selected based on his talent and he kept his position based on performance.If he is feeling the need to tell his experience then he found the perfect timing.Some geniuses here were saying he should be thankful.

Edited January 13 by putrevus

[vvvslaxman]

Amla faced a a similar incident in Australia. But the guy was arrested i heard

 

Racist Incidents Involving Hashim Amla 

• Graffiti Incident (2016): During a Test match in Hobart, Australia, a spectator wrote a derogatory racial remark targeting Hashim Amla on an oval fence. The scrawl was removed quickly, the man was identified via CCTV, issued a three-year ban from all Cricket Australia matches nationally, and faced police action.
• Advertisement Hoarding Incident (2006): A Johannesburg-based electronics company, Copy Type Electronics, displayed a large advertisement hoarding on a highway that read, "Thank goodness Amla didn't face a coolie kreeper". The term "coolie" is a banned, derogatory reference to people of Indian origin used during the apartheid era. The company disowned the ad, stating an employee put it up without authorization, and subsequently apologized.
• "Terrorist" Remark (2006): In a separate 2006 incident, Australian commentator Dean Jones was sacked by a broadcaster after being caught on an open microphone calling Amla a "terrorist" when Amla took a catch during a match. Jones later apologized for the "stupid and completely insensitive" remark, which Amla forgave. 

[vvvslaxman]

In January 2021, Indian fast bowlers Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Siraj were subjected to racial abuse by spectators during the third Test match against Australia at the Sydney Cricket Ground (SCG). 

 

Incident Details

• Complaints: The Indian team management lodged an official complaint with match officials and the International Cricket Council (ICC) after the players reported hearing racist slurs while fielding near the boundary rope on both the third and fourth days of the match.
• Disruption: On day four, play was halted for about 10 minutes after Siraj approached the umpires to report the abuse. Police and security then intervened and removed six male spectators from the ground.
• Nature of Abuse: Reports indicated the players were targeted with slurs such as "brown dog" and "big monkey". 

[vvvslaxman]

Right wingers are there everywhere

 

 

[MK55]

19 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

That looked so bad and almost felt like below the belt knock at Australian cricket. If he had something to say he could've waited a few months after retirement and talked about the topic at length. But the timing and the statement he made, it looked like Khawaja had an axe to grind.

The criticism he faced for apparently playing golf (or some other sport / relaxation activity) while being not fit incited the whole thing. 

If he genuinely felt he was unfairly targeted, letting it out when the trigger is still fresh is quite natural. 

Edited January 13 by MK55