India vs Pakistan T20 World Cup match to go ahead in Colombo on February 15 as PCB makes U-Turn

[rollingstoned]

2 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

It's not for some reason. It's to basically needle us.

 

Enemy of an enemy thing.

 

Pooks aren't overthrowing the world order, we are.

 

Same reason we have a soft spot for Afghans.

This was the case since 47 when they midwifed Pook creation. Not a recent thing. 

Our relationship with Afg is more of what you are talking about, if we had a direct border with them that'd be another thing. 

[Tillu]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Larger Plan

 

 

With BCCI, ICC is getting a tournament every year. What is there in it for ICC to allow the players to play in this Saudi sponsored league.

 

Are they pulling these stunts with the backing of Saudis due to their geopolitical tussle with UAE and India siding with UAE.

Edited February 5 by Tillu

[mishra]

15 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

With BCCI, ICC is getting a tournament every year. What is there in it for ICC to allow the players to play in this Saudi sponsored league.

 

Are they pulling these stunts with the backing of Saudis due to their geopolitical tussle with UAE and India siding with UAE.

Bhai, you are trying to reason with delusion and non sense. 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Larger Plan

 

inbreeding after effects 

[The Hound]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

Larger Plan

 

Saudis do not give shite about cricket lol. Their only sporting plan right now is make their football League bigger for the eventual 2034 WC they are hosting. 

[Gollum]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

Larger Plan

 

Those chomus are always dickriding someone else. Be it Yanks, Chinks and here, Saudis. Apne bal pe kuch nahi kar sakte yeh log. 260 million population and such losers. 

[tapandrun]

 

Naseer made good points, its part of longer pod cast he was having with Artherton where they discussed other things as well. Both are know to have this kind of chat.

These 2 are open to chat. Its kind of a main topic to talk about. Ind and pak media all are making good use of this topic in their news cycle. why should not other ??

 

From an outsider point of view he is right. There is nothing wrong. The organizations have to be consistent with what they do. 

The other part is if former eng players are expressing their thought on it , why cannot former Ind players put across their point  ????

 

Naseer and Artherton have been advocating that monopoly of bcci should be challenged. And bcci is giving more reasons for that. you can not make this many mistakes in such a small time frame.

 

Think it started with Asia cup where Ind matches were held in sl, then only at v.last moment pak team said they will travel to ind. think the backdrop of that decision was somekind of understanding that Ind will go to pak for ct, and then asia cup again and this wc.

 

Its hectic to other teams and players. they get to answer question which has no relevance to them.

 

What happened in this full episode was bcb tried to create an issue on fizz's expense , that turned out pcb making an issue on bcb's expense and then media is media.

 

Think Fizz would have been compensated in one manner or other by larger ipl ecosystem , if the bus g=had stopped at ipl removing fizz for the season

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 5 by tapandrun

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

Larger Plan

 

Something is seriously amiss.. otherwise why aren't we subjugating these low IQ ret@rded inbreds

[putrevus]

34 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Naseer made good points, its part of longer pod cast he was having with Artherton where they discussed other things as well. Both are know to have this kind of chat.

These 2 are open to chat. Its kind of a main topic to talk about. Ind and pak media all are making good use of this topic in their news cycle. why should not other ??

 

From an outsider point of view he is right. There is nothing wrong. The organizations have to be consistent with what they do. 

The other part is if former eng players are expressing their thought on it , why cannot former Ind players put across their point  ????

 

Naseer and Artherton have been advocating that monopoly of bcci should be challenged. And bcci is giving more reasons for that. you can not make this many mistakes in such a small time frame.

 

Think it started with Asia cup where Ind matches were held in sl, then only at v.last moment pak team said they will travel to ind. think the backdrop of that decision was somekind of understanding that Ind will go to pak for ct, and then asia cup again and this wc.

 

Its hectic to other teams and players. they get to answer question which has no relevance to them.

 

What happened in this full episode was bcb tried to create an issue on fizz's expense , that turned out pcb making an issue on bcb's expense and then media is media.

 

Think Fizz would have been compensated in one manner or other by larger ipl ecosystem , if the bus g=had stopped at ipl removing fizz for the season

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How is ICC not consistent. Tomorrow before start of the world cup if Australia throws a tantrum for not selecting Steve Smith to IPl and demands for neutral venue will ICC grant it.

 

Naseer is an idiot passing comments without having any understanding of the issue.Asia Cup in 2022 was also hybrid, I did not see anyone complain.

 

India has been consistent in its approach, they are not going to travel to Pakistan under any reason.BCB used one player's issue and made into national issue. It is not the fault of BCCI or ICC.

 

What is the monopoly of BCCI. How is it affecting other countries.

 

If idiots like Naseer have problem then it is on them not on BCCI.

 

Edited February 5 by putrevus

[tapandrun]

22 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How is ICC not consistent. Tomorrow before start of the world cup if Australia throws a tantrum for not selecting Steve Smith to IPl and demands for neutral venue will ICC grant it.

 

Naseer is an idiot passing comments without having any understanding of the issue.Asia Cup in 2022 was also hybrid, I did not see anyone complain.

 

India has been consistent in its approach, they are not going to travel to Pakistan under any reason.BCB used one player's issue and made into national issue. It is not the fault of BCCI or ICC.

 

What is the monopoly of BCCI. How is it affecting other countries.

 

If idiots like Naseer have problem then it is on them not on BCCI.

 

2023 asia cup :: pak was sole host but had to change the plan for bcci. 

 

Icc is not consistent in terms they are ready to accommodate bcci but not other. If bcci had issue sending the team to pak so bcci should have been asked to forfeit the games.

They removed bd from this wc but now they are trying to make pcb play, the rule has to be same. they should get clear answer from pcb are they playing yes then they play ind , if no they play no games and considered removed frm the event.

 

On Naseer think he knows the entire issue, he is leaving out the points for his convenience. He knows what happened here "bcb tried to create an issue on fizz's expense , that turned out pcb making an issue on bcb's expense ". It would be like how brook dropped ipl contract after being picked and in return if bcci would have said they will not play vs eng side and CA would have said yes we also didnt like brooks decision and we wont play ashes too.

 

Nt saying he correct at each point but he made good points that icc has to be consistent. 

 

BCCI has monopoly on every matter if they can not play at certain place the event is made hybrid, all teams have to come 1-by-1 to that venue and play them.

 

Bcci/icc has to be consistent and clean, if bcci and icc want to flex then flex properly. And say we fell burdened to fund icc all the time other boards have to contribute more and we are dropping our contribution

 

 

Edited February 5 by tapandrun

[putrevus]

35 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

2023 asia cup :: pak was sole host but had to change the plan for bcci. 

 

Icc is not consistent in terms they are ready to accommodate bcci but not other. If bcci had issue sending the team to pak so bcci should have been asked to forfeit the games.

They removed bd from this wc but now they are trying to make pcb play, the rule has to be same. they should get clear answer from pcb are they playing yes then they play ind , if no they play no games and considered removed frm the event.

 

On Naseer think he knows the entire issue, he is leaving out the points for his convenience. He knows what happened here "bcb tried to create an issue on fizz's expense , that turned out pcb making an issue on bcb's expense ". It would be like how brook dropped ipl contract after being picked and in return if bcci would have said they will not play vs eng side and CA would have said yes we also didnt like brooks decision and we wont play ashes too.

 

Nt saying he correct at each point but he made good points that icc has to be consistent. 

 

BCCI has monopoly on every matter if they can not play at certain place the event is made hybrid, all teams have to come 1-by-1 to that venue and play them.

 

Bcci/icc has to be consistent and clean, if bcci and icc want to flex then flex properly. And say we fell burdened to fund icc all the time other boards have to contribute more and we are dropping our contribution

 

 

Yes, Pakistani was host in 2023 Asia cup and they hosted as hybrid.

 

How is ICC not consistent. They removed BD as BCB intimated that they are not travelling to India.PCB has not done it.

 

When Pakistan was host for Asia Cup had no problem in hosting hybrid in 2023 why should ICC have problem in hosting hybrid in 2026.

 

India hosted Asia cup in UAE recently not in India just to accommodate Pakistan.

 

Are they asking BCCI or ECB if they are going to SL today, until PCB tells them verbally or in writing  or don't show up for toss ICC does not have to do anything.

 

Hybrid in regards to Pakistan only.BCCI has not travelled to Pakistan since 2008 and it won't travel to Pakistan in near future either.

 

So If Pakistan wants to host just like India in any world tournament they have to host Hybrid.That does not mean any other board will be granted neutral venue because their player did not get selected by IPL/WPL, then they are mistaken and are idiots.

 

 

Anyone with peasize brain will understand why India does not want to travel to Pakistan.  Just because some idiots want to say ICC is inconsistent, it does not become inconsistent.

 

What monopoly BCCI has again???

 

 

Sports and politics always will cross path, this idiot Naseer himself was captain when his team did not travel in 2003 world cup to another country.Now he is giving sermons.

 

Even in height of cold war USA did not participate in USSR and viceversa for olympics but both of them played together in neutral venues.

 

Australia has not hosted Afghanistan, Bangladesh in bilateral tour nor they have travelled to Bangladesh forever.Does this idiot Naseer/SENA reporters or Pakistani reporter have any problem with it.I did not see them say ICC is giving ACB special treatment.

Edited February 5 by putrevus

[Gollum]

Recently there was a bomb blast during SL's tour of Pak, 2-3 months back. SL players didn't want to continue the tour but SLCB forced them at gunpoint. Few players who were at the forefront of protests including their captain, Asalanka, were soft banned as well...Asalanka lost his captaincy the next day in fact. SL board did all that for PCB. 

 

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Now PCB's decision will harm SL as well, they are also a tourism dependent country. That is another card we must play....thoda aag mein ghee daalna padega. Remind SL of the betrayal. Also associates, who will be affected most as they depend entirely on ICC revenue. Corner Pak from all sides, disincentivize associates from touring Pak, also extend the same to SL, WI.....invite them to India instead and give them reciprocal tours to reward them. Will also help us as we send more rookie teams to these weaker countries to ease them into international cricket. 

Edited February 5 by Gollum

[tapandrun]

55 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Yes, Pakistani was host in 2023 Asia cup and they hosted as hybrid.

 

How is ICC not consistent. They removed BD as BCB intimated that they are not travelling to India.PCB has not done it.

 

When Pakistan was host for Asia Cup had no problem in hosting hybrid in 2023 why should ICC have problem in hosting hybrid in 2026.

 

India hosted Asia cup in UAE recently not in India just to accommodate Pakistan.

 

Are they asking BCCI or ECB if they are going to SL today, until PCB tells them verbally or in writing  or don't show up for toss ICC does not have to do anything.

 

Hybrid in regards to Pakistan only.BCCI has not travelled to Pakistan since 2008 and it won't travel to Pakistan in near future either.

 

So If Pakistan wants to host just like India in any world tournament they have to host Hybrid.That does not mean any other board will be granted neutral venue because their player did not get selected by IPL/WPL, then they are mistaken and are idiots.

 

 

Anyone with peasize brain will understand why India does not want to travel to Pakistan.  Just because some idiots want to say ICC is inconsistent, it does not become inconsistent.

 

What monopoly BCCI has again???

 

 

Sports and politics always will cross path, this idiot Naseer himself was captain when his team did not travel in 2003 world cup to another country.Now he is giving sermons.

 

Even in height of cold war USA did not participate in USSR and viceversa for olympics but both of them played together in neutral venues.

 

Australia has not hosted Afghanistan, Bangladesh in bilateral tour nor they have travelled to Bangladesh forever.Does this idiot Naseer/SENA reporters or Pakistani reporter have any problem with it.I did not see them say ICC is giving ACB special treatment.

 

Every1 understands that sports are soft extension of the politics. Even a simple playground next block is part of that.

 

Again not saying what he said was all true and he do es not know the core of the issue, he is trying to be oblivious.

 

But if some1 says icc has been consistent then they are wrong, they are giving all the time to pcb but no time was given to bcb could they have dragged the issue till now.

If rules says team can not pick and chose which side they play and which to forfeit then what are they waiting for as ask for clear answer give a deadline. when pcb are going to give the confirmations ??? on 15th ?? will they let bcb do the same, they were swift wth bcb and now have all the time for pcb ??? 

 

Same thing with bcci, bcci can get hybrid model but bcb can not get to change the location be it last moment for an event which is already hosted in 2 locations.

 

Consider yourself a player from eng/aus/wi etc any team, and think you need to travel to a diff location to play 1 game come back to previous location bcoz of whateer issue is with ind-pak. and as the player for eng/wi/sa/ etc.. you have seen Ind-pak players/ex-players meet and greet hug etc , one might think whats going on why are they suffering on other's expense ???

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 5 by tapandrun

[IndianRenegade]

11 hours ago, deathmonger said:

Older Eng/Aus cricketers/fans are salty cause of loss of privilege.

 

But the CA/ECB head honchos know what's what hence allowing their players in IPL, letting IPL investors buy up teams, 5 match test series etc.

 

Even newer cricketers who have enjoyed IPL riches love it.

 

Let oldie Aus/Eng people whine. They are anyways impotent. they will all die out soon.

Facker Hussain can eat crow.

 

just like the Canadians who lectured us on free speech then called people who talk to Americans about separation as traitors. These anglos talk big when others are involved, when it hurts them all those lofty principles go right out of the window.

Edited February 5 by IndianRenegade

[IndianRenegade]

36 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Every1 understands that sports are soft extension of the politics. Even a simple playground next block is part of that.

 

Again not saying what he said was all true and he do es not know the core of the issue, he is trying to be oblivious.

 

But if some1 says icc has been consistent then they are wrong, they are giving all the time to pcb but no time was given to bcb could they have dragged the issue till now.

If rules says team can not pick and chose which side they play and which to forfeit then what are they waiting for as ask for clear answer give a deadline. when pcb are going to give the confirmations ??? on 15th ?? will they let bcb do the same, they were swift wth bcb and now have all the time for pcb ??? 

 

Same thing with bcci, bcci can get hybrid model but bcb can not get to change the location be it last moment for an event which is already hosted in 2 locations.

 

Consider yourself a player from eng/aus/wi etc any team, and think you need to travel to a diff location to play 1 game come back to previous location bcoz of whateer issue is with ind-pak. and as the player for eng/wi/sa/ etc.. you have seen Ind-pak players/ex-players meet and greet hug etc , one might think whats going on why are they suffering on other's expense ???

 

 

your entire permise is wrong. BCB officially notified ICC of their request to reschedule the game on Jan 3/4, They were given a deadline till Jan 21 & officially announced decision only on Jan 24th. Pak govt. announced bycott on Feb 1st., so your claim no time was given to BCB is completely not based on reality.

Edited February 5 by IndianRenegade

[tapandrun]

4 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

your entire permise is wrong. BCB officially notified ICC of their request to reschedule the game on Jan 3/4, They were given a deadline till Jan 21 & officially announced decision only on Jan 24th. Pak govt. announced bycott on Feb 1st., so your claim no time was given to BCB is completely not based on reality.

so what is the deadline for pcb ??? Warm-up matches have already started, wc starts in 1 day 

 

if they already boycotting 1 game which they agreed to play previously and interms of bcci-pcb or ind-pak gvmt nothing has changed, so on wha grounds they are not playing ?????

If bcb has agreed to the decision then what is pcb protesting for ???  With bcb they had time , bt now there is no time left decision have be made  

[IndianRenegade]

17 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

so what is the deadline for pcb ??? Warm-up matches have already started, wc starts in 1 day 

 

if they already boycotting 1 game which they agreed to play previously and interms of bcci-pcb or ind-pak gvmt nothing has changed, so on wha grounds they are not playing ?????

If bcb has agreed to the decision then what is pcb protesting for ???  With bcb they had time , bt now there is no time left decision have be made  

you should make yup your mind, before this post you were arguing BCB didn't have time & PCB  is being given time. Now you are arguing BCB could have been given time, but PCB shouldn't. 

 

the fact is, ICC is trying to make the best out of an bad situation. This deadline for BD on Jan 21 was announced on Jan 19th, well into the timeline of the issue.  It tried its best w/o setting precedent to convince BCB, when it became clear there was no way to convince it banned them. They are going through the same with PCB, back channels, SLC now reaching out, they will also come to a conclusion. You want a runbook of how this issue is resolved & when none exists.

Edited February 5 by IndianRenegade

[tapandrun]

45 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

you should make yup your mind, before this post you were arguing BCB didn't have time & PCB  is being given time. Now you are arguing BCB could have been given time, but PCB shouldn't. 

 

the fact is, ICC is trying to make the best out of an bad situation. This deadline for BD on Jan 21 was announced on Jan 19th, well into the timeline of the issue.  It tried its best w/o setting precedent to convince BCB, when it became clear there was no way to convince it banned them. They are going through the same with PCB, back channels, SLC now reaching out, they will also come to a conclusion. You want a runbook of how this issue is resolved & when none exists.

 

 

If a task can be completed in 24 hours and you have 50 days available, you naturally have room to evaluate options, seek clarification, and consider alternatives. But when that same task is left unattended until only five days remain—and then suddenly just 36 hours—you are forced to focus all attention on it and act decisively.

This distinction is important when comparing how the ICC handled the BCB and PCB situations.

In the case of the BCB, the ICC had sufficient time. It listened to their concerns, sought clarifications, and—at least on the surface—those concerns appeared genuine. The ICC followed due process, conducted a vote, and reached a clear outcome of 14–2 against the BCB.

Now compare that with the PCB situation. The PCB has raised an issue that does not directly concern them, and the ICC is operating under extreme time constraints. The same proposal the PCB is supporting has already been rejected by a 14–2 majority, so it is unclear what outcome they realistically expect at this stage.

More importantly, this issue has no connection to the original matter at hand. There is no unresolved dispute, no new demand tied to the initial issue, and effectively nothing left to negotiate.

So the question arises: why is the ICC allocating so much time to the PCB when there is barely one day left, especially when it acted decisively in the BCB case despite both Pakistan and Bangladesh playing their first match on 7 February?

If the PCB is allowed to pursue a non-issue until 15 February, then on what basis was the BCB not afforded similar latitude?

 

It just shows pcb has some kind of leverage which bcb didnt , so its all is not consistent.  

 

Edited February 5 by tapandrun

[bowl_out]

Looks like Pakistan might be knocked out due to weather more than boycott. Two of their matches have 70% rain forecast. Lol

 

 

[tapandrun]

15 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

Looks like Pakistan might be knocked out due to weather more than boycott. Two of their matches have 70% rain forecast. Lol

 

 

Sl is good when it comes to ground staff, they can/will try to get atlest 5 overs a side