express bowling Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Just now, Lord said: Didnt watch. Figures are good. What were the speeds? 134 to 141 Figures don't tell the full story. Abhishek and Tilak have picked 4 wickets too. Mosher and Lord 2
tapandrun Posted July 25 Posted July 25 He does not give much confidence , he may be not any better than Avesh. Yash always look like a club level bowler who can not bowl a good over , may be 1-2 good balls per over all are just rubbish. Have not seen him much in ranji but all the white-ball games he has played be it emerginging or Ind A and today he lacks control and does not have any special skill singhvivek141 and express bowling 2
Need4Speed Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) 6 hours ago, tapandrun said: He does not give much confidence , he may be not any better than Avesh. Yash always look like a club level bowler who can not bowl a good over , may be 1-2 good balls per over all are just rubbish. Have not seen him much in ranji but all the white-ball games he has played be it emerginging or Ind A and today he lacks control and does not have any special skill Those bowlers who can bowl 5 tight balls..why cant.. bowl 1 more accurate ball they can do all the practice..play domestics for an year or two and tighten it up.. I mean cant they do meditation or something if its a focus issue.. if its fitness issue..then can do all the strengthening exercises..build stamina in domestics.. atleast do something about it Edited July 26 by Need4Speed Lord 1
express bowling Posted July 26 Posted July 26 7 hours ago, tapandrun said: He does not give much confidence , he may be not any better than Avesh. Yash always look like a club level bowler who can not bowl a good over , may be 1-2 good balls per over all are just rubbish. Have not seen him much in ranji but all the white-ball games he has played be it emerginging or Ind A and today he lacks control and does not have any special skill Very vanilla bowler. Does not have any special quality. Short, Fast-medium, not that accurate. Why is he selected ? Hope I am wrong Mosher, tapandrun and singhvivek141 3
govinda Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Very vanilla bowler. Does not have any special quality. Short, Fast-medium, not that accurate. Why is he selected ? Hope I am wrong He can reverse the ball bro. Playing in wrong format
express bowling Posted July 26 Posted July 26 1 minute ago, govinda said: He can reverse the ball bro. Playing in wrong format Reverse swing pacers have to do it at 140 k to 145 k minimum to be effective on slow tracks. Can he do it ? Mosher 1
MK55 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Gave me Shardul Thakur vibes but Shardul could bat. I thought he was a tall 138-144k bowler but turns out he’s neither??
govinda Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Reverse swing pacers have to do it at 140 k to 145 k minimum to be effective on slow tracks. Can he do it ? He can touch 145.shown it in irani cup
govinda Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 1 hour ago, MK55 said: Gave me Shardul Thakur vibes but Shardul could bat. I thought he was a tall 138-144k bowler but turns out he’s neither?? He can bowl 144+ maybe silght niggle
JaFanatic Posted July 26 Posted July 26 1 hour ago, MK55 said: Gave me Shardul Thakur vibes but Shardul could bat. I thought he was a tall 138-144k bowler but turns out he’s neither?? Poor man's shardul like how akashdeep is a poor man's shami. MK55 1
express bowling Posted July 26 Posted July 26 9 minutes ago, govinda said: He can touch 145.shown it in irani cup He can touch 145 k. But Yash's default speeds seem to be 133 k to 140 k. Mosher and Need4Speed 2
vvvslaxman Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 hours ago, express bowling said: He can touch 145 k. But Yash's default speeds seem to be 133 k to 140 k. He is an unfit guy. He is.not a wise investment. I have seen him constantly huffing and puffing. express bowling 1
Lord Posted July 27 Posted July 27 18 hours ago, express bowling said: Very vanilla bowler. Does not have any special quality. Short, Fast-medium, not that accurate. Why is he selected ? Hope I am wrong You yourself hyped him
tapandrun Posted July 27 Posted July 27 21 hours ago, Need4Speed said: Those bowlers who can bowl 5 tight balls..why cant.. bowl 1 more accurate ball they can do all the practice..play domestics for an year or two and tighten it up.. I mean cant they do meditation or something if its a focus issue.. if its fitness issue..then can do all the strengthening exercises..build stamina in domestics.. atleast do something about it Accuracy is kind of new concept for Ind bowlers only came with Bhuvi , Shami and Bhumrah.... Before them bowlers were taught to bowl fuller and fuller and hope the batter edges one to wk/slips. Accuracy has to be inbuilt because it req. lot of things --patience , faith in your ability and not to look for 1 magic ball that can get the wkt. In today's cricket its even tough with modern day shots and batters ability to hit good ball for 4/6 , what if a bowler bowled 2 good balls but still that went for 4/6 how to deal with it ??? Issue with Ind players is once they are selected to Ind side they do not improve or add any other skill they are happy to be fringe players-- Bishnoi can not develop proper leg-spin till now, Gill still has not added many shots yes he can not be hitter like Abhishek/Viabhav/SAnju but atleast he can add reverse, ramp and etc.. Its a problem -- Only player who have worked on their game are Nkr, Abhisek, Iyer
express bowling Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lord said: You yourself hyped him When ?? Check my earlier posts in this thread, before he bowled in this series. Edited July 27 by express bowling Mosher 1
Need4Speed Posted July 27 Posted July 27 48 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Accuracy is kind of new concept for Ind bowlers only came with Bhuvi , Shami and Bhumrah.... Before them bowlers were taught to bowl fuller and fuller and hope the batter edges one to wk/slips. Accuracy has to be inbuilt because it req. lot of things --patience , faith in your ability and not to look for 1 magic ball that can get the wkt. In today's cricket its even tough with modern day shots and batters ability to hit good ball for 4/6 , what if a bowler bowled 2 good balls but still that went for 4/6 how to deal with it ??? Issue with Ind players is once they are selected to Ind side they do not improve or add any other skill they are happy to be fringe players-- Bishnoi can not develop proper leg-spin till now, Gill still has not added many shots yes he can not be hitter like Abhishek/Viabhav/SAnju but atleast he can add reverse, ramp and etc.. Its a problem -- Only player who have worked on their game are Nkr, Abhisek, Iyer Agreed but I still dont get..why cant they build more focus..or if they are unsure after 5 tight deliveries..better bowl defensive last bowl like wide yorker..or may be bowl some proper slower ball(not formality)..as batter would be looking to hit it to make that over count for some runs..
singhvivek141 Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: Accuracy is kind of new concept for Ind bowlers only came with Bhuvi , Shami and Bhumrah.... Before them bowlers were taught to bowl fuller and fuller and hope the batter edges one to wk/slips. Accuracy has to be inbuilt because it req. lot of things --patience , faith in your ability and not to look for 1 magic ball that can get the wkt. In today's cricket its even tough with modern day shots and batters ability to hit good ball for 4/6 , what if a bowler bowled 2 good balls but still that went for 4/6 how to deal with it ??? Issue with Ind players is once they are selected to Ind side they do not improve or add any other skill they are happy to be fringe players-- Bishnoi can not develop proper leg-spin till now, Gill still has not added many shots yes he can not be hitter like Abhishek/Viabhav/SAnju but atleast he can add reverse, ramp and etc.. Its a problem -- Only player who have worked on their game are Nkr, Abhisek, Iyer While I agree that Iyer has improved his game against short pitch bowling, but at the same time his insane ability to hit the spinners have taken an impact. Iyer was known to have fast hands which helped him hitting massive sixes against pace, that has gone down. He moves around the crease but his timing isn't as good as it used to be.
singhvivek141 Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) I think Yash Thakur is serviceable, he is a stop gap option like Akashdeep or Prasidh and need to be treated accordingly. He does gains weight quickly and seems has the same issue with Shardul had, but as he has bowled long spells in FC, he has the experience and refinement to bowl in the big league. What we're seeing is the best version of him, as he is confidently able to bowl yorkers and slower ones. Currently, he is comparable to Harshit (with his current fitness) pace wise, though Harshit edges him out with his ability to bat. Gurnoor, Ashok, Mayank, Tyagi...these guys still haven't hit the peak of their abilities. They are immensely talented. Even Harshit has a great scope of improvement provided he works on his fitness. Edited July 27 by singhvivek141 express bowling, tweaker and Lone Wolf 3
Suhaan Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Biggest bane for these pacers is their fitness ,golumolu Thakur(Harshit with his current fitn was too who I think will disappear)will never be an Umesh with that kind of muscle mass and will always be a 136 pacer which is useless unless you are an Bumrah,Shami(although they could reach 145+ when they need)or you have ability to bat and score quick 30-40 runs lower down These guys should develop something extra to serve the team right,same is applied to batsmen,top 4 should be able to share 8 overs between them express bowling, tweaker, Mosher and 1 other 4
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