CoverDrive Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 I know everyone is universal in their opinion that playing him was a mistake. I know he was taken for a few but still the guy was touching really good speeds 144-145. He also looks much more bulked up and seems to have built strength. Add to it his natural seam position (which will help in reverse swing also) and on helpful tracks he can be very good. Dilshan was playing him very carefully otherwise Sree had a chance for a breakthrough. He just needs the bowling sense that someone like Zaheer has otherwise he is definitely a good test prospect. Also he needs some support from the captain and the team management. If used smartly he can be a useful limited over prospect. I know everyone finally will look at the results but thought behind playing him was not completely off. who knows if he had as much support as someone like Munaf or even Nehra through the tournament he would have found consistency in the final.
dangerman85 Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 He only played in the first match against bangladesh and then directly in the final. He did not have any match practice. Dhoni should have played him in the league matches against ireland, holland and west indies atleast before playing him in the final.
JourneyMan Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Brainless bowling. Poor attitude. No confidence. No sense of strategy. The speed gun is not as important as we make it out to be. McGrath was a prime example.
Prakat Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 He only played in the first match against bangladesh and then directly in the final. He did not have any match practice. Dhoni should have played him in the league matches against ireland' date=' holland and west indies atleast before playing him in the final.[/quote'] :agree: absolutely. He should have had a few more runs during the league matches.
NareshK Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 He can be good in tests. But in ODIs, if a batsmen takes him on and hits him for a boundary at the start of the over, you can bet your bottom dollar that the rest of the over will be rubbish. He is mentally weak IMO and he starts to feel the heat very soon and he takes it out on the batsmen by sledging them. Not an ideal candidate for ODIs and T20s but he is a very good prospect in tests.
CG Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 I know everyone is universal in their opinion that playing him was a mistake. I know he was taken for a few but still the guy was touching really good speeds 144-145. He also looks much more bulked up and seems to have built strength. Add to it his natural seam position (which will help in reverse swing also) and on helpful tracks he can be very good. Dilshan was playing him very carefully otherwise Sree had a chance for a breakthrough. He just needs the bowling sense that someone like Zaheer has otherwise he is definitely a good test prospect. Also he needs some support from the captain and the team management. If used smartly he can be a useful limited over prospect. I know everyone finally will look at the results but thought behind playing him was not completely off. who knows if he had as much support as someone like Munaf or even Nehra through the tournament he would have found consistency in the final. It was not a mistake to play him,As we saw the pitch had nothing for spinners,He bowled well in first spell against dilshan who was mostly at his end.Later spells dhoni made a mistake not keeping slips and a few edges to thirdman cost hims fours.But his PACE was great 145km/h is no joke.
rkt.india Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 I know everyone is universal in their opinion that playing him was a mistake. I know he was taken for a few but still the guy was touching really good speeds 144-145. He also looks much more bulked up and seems to have built strength. Add to it his natural seam position (which will help in reverse swing also) and on helpful tracks he can be very good. Dilshan was playing him very carefully otherwise Sree had a chance for a breakthrough. He just needs the bowling sense that someone like Zaheer has otherwise he is definitely a good test prospect. Also he needs some support from the captain and the team management. If used smartly he can be a useful limited over prospect. I know everyone finally will look at the results but thought behind playing him was not completely off. who knows if he had as much support as someone like Munaf or even Nehra through the tournament he would have found consistency in the final. Though he bowled up to 145, but his fitness is not up to the mark...after bowling 2 overs, he looked stiff, wasn't even running well in runup 3rd or 4th over onwards...he needs to work on his stamina and bowl as much as he can in nets which will improve his rhythm and bowling form..
jusarrived Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 hes never going to be a consistently good ODI bowler . Tests , surely he can step up and bcom a match winner for us .
phaedrus Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 yeah, he was wobbling up to the crease in the last couple of overs or so. totally lacked rhythm
Precambrian Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Brainless bowling. Poor attitude. No confidence. No sense of strategy. The speed gun is not as important as we make it out to be. McGrath was a prime example. Wonder you were talking about zaheer's last 5 overs here :p Yes, no doubt Sreesanth was poor, but cut him some slack. He is in the team as a mascot. Like how we hang a mannequin in front of a newly constructed house to "deflect" envy
vvvslaxman Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Brainless bowling. Poor attitude. No confidence. No sense of strategy. The speed gun is not as important as we make it out to be. McGrath was a prime example. More than brainless, his bowling is much suited for a Test match than ODI.
vishalvirsingh Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I know everyone is universal in their opinion that playing him was a mistake. I know he was taken for a few but still the guy was touching really good speeds 144-145. He also looks much more bulked up and seems to have built strength. Add to it his natural seam position (which will help in reverse swing also) and on helpful tracks he can be very good. Dilshan was playing him very carefully otherwise Sree had a chance for a breakthrough. He just needs the bowling sense that someone like Zaheer has otherwise he is definitely a good test prospect. Also he needs some support from the captain and the team management. If used smartly he can be a useful limited over prospect. I know everyone finally will look at the results but thought behind playing him was not completely off. who knows if he had as much support as someone like Munaf or even Nehra through the tournament he would have found consistency in the final. I am also a BIG Sreesanth Fan....I totally agree to what you have said. he bowled at 145.8K more than once and was pretty close to taking wicekts.. He was plane UNLUCKY in this tournament and some fielding set by DHONI was also not helping... every fast bowler requires a Thirdman and most of the 4"s of his bowling were behind the wicekts and going via the SLIPS...its a standard rule see AUS they always have a third man for his fast bowlers..Dhoni had kept a fileder on the square boundary dhoni has never encouraged him ever and i hope he does bcos we have 21 or more swing or medium pace bowlers in INDIA but may be 2 or 3 Genuine FAST BOWLERS and Dhoni needs to understand that on pitches outside , these medium pace bowlers will not get u wickets and one needs good pace on pacy wickets. thats when guys like umesh sreesanth varun need to be nurtured along with ZAK. MUNAF and other slow pacers cannot suceed their. Sree was bowling well and just that he was stretching himself and required guidance and Support.
saneindian Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 The problem with Sree is if he does not get a wicket in his forst couple of overs in ODIs, he starts over experimenting and bowls everywhere. Thats where he loses it. As many have said, he is not a ODI bowler currently (especially in sub continental conditions) and needs to play test matches for an year or two , do well and then hopefully by then he would have gained enough control to do well in ODis
Karan114 Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Kirsten concerned about 'highly skilled' Sreesanth Kirsten concerned about 'highly skilled' Sreesanth Press Trust of India Mumbai: India's World Cup-winning coach Gary Kirsten on Tuesday said it will be waste of talent if "highly skilled" fast bowler Shantakumaran Sreesanth doesn't take the next step in his career. Kirsten, during his farewell media conference before leaving for Cape Town, said the Kerala pacer is good in the Test matches but needs to be more consistent in the shorter version of the game. The temperamental fast bowler featured in two World Cup matches, the tournament opener against Bangladesh and the final against Sri Lanka, but went for runs on both occasions. "Sreesanth is not only one who has not performed to his full potential so far. He has performed brilliantly in South Africa and in other Test matches. But I feel he needs to be consistent in ODIs," said Kirsten. "Hopefully, he will be able to take that next step and if he is unable to do that, it will be a waste of talent." Asked about the quality of fast bowling in the team, he said: "The bowling is a slight concern though the state of Indian cricket is in a healthy position. If the bowlers can withstand the rigours of playing continuous international cricket, then the situation could be dealt with." The former South African opener also said Delhi pacer Ishant Sharma is a special talent. "Ishant has a promising future and hopefully he will get better with the experience," he said. http://sports.ndtv.com/world-cup-2011/news/item/171709-kirsten-concerned-about-highly-skilled-sreesanth
msb1991 Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 His issue in the final was that he burnt himself out in the first few overs. He absolutely charged in, trying to bowl as quick as possible. Not only did this result in poor deliveries, which were luckily not punished, but he completely burned himself out. Check out his run up in his later overs, he was long striding to the crease and struggling to get there and there was absolutely no explosion at delivery. Quite simply, he tired himself out bowling his first three or four overs. Until he has a consistent run up and bowling action, he will not be a good bowler. I compare him to Saj Mahmood, who also does not appear to 'know' his bowling action well enough to repeat it ball after ball.
ganeshran Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Freesanth :hehe: But seriously this guy should work harder on both his attitude and bowling. Will go places only if he puts in the effort.
saneindian Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Freesanth :hehe: But seriously this guy should work harder on both his attitude and bowling. Will go places only if he puts in the effort. Dood enough with this name calling. Dosn't look good at all.
urbestfriend Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Sreesanth is good bowler on the pitches which offer some assistance to seamers , but he is a waste of place on phatta pitches. He doesn't have much variety like slower balls, cutters etc which makes him cannon fodder in the flat pitches which don't offer any swing.
NareshK Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 His issue in the final was that he burnt himself out in the first few overs. He absolutely charged in, trying to bowl as quick as possible. Not only did this result in poor deliveries, which were luckily not punished, but he completely burned himself out. Check out his run up in his later overs, he was long striding to the crease and struggling to get there and there was absolutely no explosion at delivery. Quite simply, he tired himself out bowling his first three or four overs. I agree with this. He did look tired after the first few overs. Bowling in the Mumbai heat and humidity is not easy. But he has a tendency to let the pressure get to him when a batsman attacks him. All those no balls and free hits were just freebies. It reverses the momentum and puts the pressure back on the fielding side.
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