How do we plan for future two years?

[Sachinism]

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AohG5bceVslQdERPWGlKTlZJaFVzV2JDVkdGYVF2ZGc#gid=0

[Septimius Severus]

itstl

[Sachinism]

FTP damn autocorrect See India doesn't have a break til April next year, which I'm sure BCCI will slot and find a way to fill

[Sachinism]

Are the ODI and test columns interchanged?

Test columns show how many days of cricket

[Jayaram_IND]

Test columns show how many days of cricket

Oh thank you for that.

[Sachinism]

Given how much we emphasise the collective in sport, it is ironic how often a team's fortunes can be linked with an individual's fitness. Back in 2002, France were world and European football champions. Zinedine Zidane was 30 and in his prime, having just scored a wonder goal to win the Champions League for Real Madrid in Glasgow, Scotland. But when a slight tear in his quadriceps ruled him out of the first two games, the French lost the plot spectacularly, ending the tournament in Japan and South Korea without even scoring a goal in their three group matches. There are echoes of that debacle in India's current tour of England. After just 81 deliveries at Lord's, Zaheer Khan faces four months on the sidelines once he undergoes ankle surgery. A series that many expected to be too tight to call now stands 2-0 to England. With Zaheer gone, it could get much worse. In the past 12 months, he played seven Tests, missing games against New Zealand in Nagpur and South Africa at Centurion, and 16 one-day internationals. That does not look excessive. But each of those games, except for Lord's, was crammed between October and early April, when India won the World Cup final. For someone with a history of injuries, it was a quite a run on the treadmill. Had he possessed another passport, Zaheer surely would not have been allowed to play the Indian Premier League (IPL). Had he been English or Australian, he would have been advised to rest with a view to getting back to full fitness in the summer. The top-of-the-table clash against England would have been given importance. But the IPL is the Indian board's baby, and Zaheer ended up playing 15 games for the Royal Challengers Bangalore. He finally got a break on May 28, by which time his ankle was too sore for him to even make the Test leg of India's Caribbean tour. The board has a lot to answer for. The fans deserve to know what its priority is - is it for the national side to be as strong as possible or for the IPL to thrive? The two are not remotely the same thing, as the injuries to Zaheer and Virender Sehwag have shown. If the Indian team are not considered the focal point of board policy, you will soon have a situation analogous to English football - with a much-hyped domestic league and a national team that consistently serve up dismal performances on the world stage. England's best footballers seldom perform on the world stage because by the time it's May or June, they are shattered from having played in as many as four competitions. Unlike other European leagues, there is no midseason break either. If you treat players like beasts of burden, then expect them to play like donkeys. A look at India's schedule for the 12 months from May 2011 shows 85 days of Tests, 36 ODIs and four T20 internationals. That's 125 days of cricket. Only Sri Lanka (70 days of Tests, 38 ODIs and three T20s) come close to matching such insanity. In contrast, England play 60 days of Tests, 20 ODIs and eight T20s. Not that India's cricketers deserve much sympathy. Not one of the seniors has spoken out explicitly about being treated like highly paid slaves. There is still no players' association. Like other stars from the subcontinent, they have nothing to do with FICA, the international players' body. They complain in private, and off the record. But that is not good enough. Would the board really dare to take on a big name who came out and said: enough is enough? The chances are we will never find out. http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/indias-cricketers-to-blame-for-breaking-down

[Trichromatic]

For someone with a history of injuries, it was a quite a run on the treadmill. Had he possessed another passport, Zaheer surely would not have been allowed to play the Indian Premier League (IPL). But the IPL is the Indian board's baby, and Zaheer ended up playing 15 games for the Royal Challengers Bangalore. He finally got a break on May 28, by which time his ankle was too sore for him to even make the Test leg of India's Caribbean tour. The board has a lot to answer for. The fans deserve to know what its priority is - is it for the national side to be as strong as possible or for the IPL to thrive? The two are not remotely the same thing, as the injuries to Zaheer and Virender Sehwag have shown. A look at India's schedule for the 12 months from May 2011 shows 85 days of Tests, 36 ODIs and four T20 internationals. That's 125 days of cricket. Only Sri Lanka (70 days of Tests, 38 ODIs and three T20s) come close to matching such insanity. In contrast, England play 60 days of Tests, 20 ODIs and eight T20s. Not that India's cricketers deserve much sympathy. Not one of the seniors has spoken out explicitly about being treated like highly paid slaves.

:hmmm:

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Rebuilding starts now for India's Test future More... Rebuilding starts now for India's Test future Dileep Premachandran Aug 26, 2011 Bad luck and injuries can stymie the best of teams. What they cannot do is explain two innings defeats, and two other Tests lost by a combined margin of 515 runs. When you are so comprehensively outclassed, with more than half your squad made to look second-rate, then it's time for introspection rather than excuses. What Indian cricket cannot afford to do right now is confuse formats. The one-day team may yet be competitive against England. But regardless of that result, the concerns about the Test side will not go away. A great Test cricketer, whether that be Sachin Tendulkar, Shane Warne or Jacques Kallis, can adjust "down" to any format. The reverse is certainly not the case, as the likes of Yusuf Pathan and Suresh Raina have discovered while making the "upwards" transition. Ultimately, India's status as a cricket power will not depend on how many billions the Indian Premier League(IPL) is worth. It depends squarely on the health and success of the national team. The IPL administrators cannot be delusional. People tune in to the IPL because they get to see players who have excelled at the very highest level. They don't pay premium ticket prices to go and watch Palani Amarnath bowl to Sunny Sohal. Let the national team slide, and soon your brand will be worth nothing. To prevent that, Indian cricket needs to take three clear-eyed decisions before the next Test assignment against the West Indies in November. The first of those is the trickiest: managing the transition from legends to youth. No Indian selector is likely to be as ruthless with Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman as the Australians were with Simon Katich. But there has to be recognition that a new generation needs time to find its feet. The West Indies Tests in November need to see Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma or Cheteshwar Pujara given a full series, even if each of the big three return for the tour of Australia. The end of that tour should ideally see one of them exit the Test stage. A second spot should be freed up once the home series against England finishes in 2012, leaving the last man standing to take a bow at the World Test Championships in 2013, assuming India are still in the top four by then. The order in which they go can be worked out in consultation with the selectors, but by 2013, India need to be ready to embrace the future. The same foresight needs to be shown with the bowling. Given his frequent injury problems and the fact that he turns 33 in October, you cannot expect Zaheer Khan to add much to his 79 Test caps. Sreesanth tailed away badly in England, while Ishant Sharma didn't get the results to match his efforts. Only Praveen Kumar, who had be jostling for the third seamer's spot in a decent attack, made any impression. Given the variety of pace bowlers India have called up in recent years, going back to RP Singh - who last played in January 2008 - seemed bizarre, and that too when he was on holiday. That fiasco highlighted the need for a pool of quick bowlers to be groomed. When England were winning the Ashes in Australia last winter, a development squad was in the country playing games. An injury, like the one that ruled Stuart Broad out of contention, didn't have catastrophic results. England's handling of Broad is also an object lesson in how to nurture young bowlers. Having made his one-day debut five years ago, it wasn't until this summer that he finally produced a series where performance matched undoubted potential. At 25, he could well go on to great things, mainly because Andy Flower, and others, showed patience. Contrast that with someone like Irfan Pathan, who had racked up 29 Test caps and 107 ODIs before his last appearance for India at the age of 24. Michael Holding, who knows more than most about bowling fast, insists that no developing pace bowler can afford to play more than 10 Tests and 20 one-day games in a year. England's handling of the promising Steven Finn is a case in point. Most importantly, though, India need to get their fitness right. The team who lost in England were as poorly conditioned as any in the last decade. Under Adrian le Roux, the South African fitness trainer who worked with them before the 2003 World Cup, and Greg King, his compatriot, things had improved drastically. Since then, with players choosing their own routines, the results have not been the same. A foreign face is needed, ideally someone with little cricket background who won't care about the reputations of those he's working with. No one is asking for body builder physiques, but you can't step on to the park looking like you've just finished a plate of eclairs. .

[rkt.india]

How do we plan for future two years? good article..some good points

[Sooda]

plate of eclairs. :cantstop:

[Lurker]

Jeez give me a freaking break from these dime a dozen "experts". So India now needs to have a transition plan? Now that we have been demolished 0-4 and suffered worst whitewash in Indian, and perhaps whole of, cricketing history?? This supposed transition and change of old guards should have happened atleast 2 years back. And back then the same experts were busy cajoling these seniors as "true servants of Indian cricket who need to go out on time. Only a Sachin knows when he is spent". Only two experts stood for a change of guard, Ian Chappell and Sanjay Manjrekar. And when SRT managed to turn a corner, as did Dravid, both these gents were also humble enough to appreciate that. On the other hand these cheerleading experts from Shastri to Premchandran were having orgasms. And now when we get our rear handed to us, its change of rearguards. How about we change these bozzo experts as well!

[WC2011INDIA]

The title of this thread is VERY misleading. I thought BCCI woke up and has started to seriously think of India's test future. Instead, some guy has suggested stuff. **** this.

[1983-2011]

Looking ahead, the future's so bright I gotta wear shades Post the England tour, the FTP looks like this 5 ODIs vs England at home 3 Tests 5 ODIs versus West Indies at home. 4 Tests and 8-11 ODIs versus Australia away 3 Tests and 5 ODIs versus Pakistan at home. 3 Tests versus Sri lanka away. 3 Tests versus New Zealand at home. T20 WC at Sri Lanka 4 Tests versus England at home 7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus England at home. 4 Tests versus Australia at home. This is the lead up to the Test playoff/Championship in England. Following this 3 ODIs versus Zimbabwe away 7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus Australia at home. Doing the sums, between September 2011 though November 2013, India play 24 Tests, 38 ODIs and 2 T20s, most of them at home.. This does not include the games played in the ICC Test Championship, the T20 WC, IPL and Champions League games. Working with the numbers above, India play 140 days of cricket over a period of 2 years. Which brings up the question of workload, rotation and rest. Right now, including all of the injured players, India can safely boast of a roster that is 47 deep. Openers: Virender Sehwag Gautam Gambhir Murali Vijay Abhinav Mukund Ajinkya Rahane Middle Order: Rahul Dravid Sachin Tendulkar VVS Laxman Yuvraj Singh Cheteshwar Pujara Rohit Sharma Virat Kohli Ambati Rayadu Suresh Raina Manoj Tiwary Manish Pandey WicketKeepers: MS Dhoni W. Saha P. Patel N. Ojha D. Karthik Slow Left arm spin: Pragyan Ojha Ravinder Jadeja Off Spin: Harbhajan Singh Leg spin: Amit Mishra Right Arm Fast: Ishant Sharma Praveen Kumar Munaf Patel Abhimanyu Mithun Umesh Yadav Varun Aaron Left Arm Fast: Zaheer Khan RP Singh Jaidev Unadkat ODI/T20 specialists: Yusuf Pathan Siddharth Trivedi R. Ashwin Piyush Chawla Rahul Sharma Bhargav Bhatt Iqbal Abdulla Irfan Pathan Sudeep Tyagi Dhawal Kulkarni R. Vinay Kumar Saurabh Tiwary Ashok Menaria Now, the above categorization is not a strict one ie: players classified as ODI/T20 specialists can pretty easily be moved up into any of the other classifications and vice versa. And it also does not consider some players like Badrinath, who can be slotted into the above list if so desired. Now, working on the presumption that we need our best XV for overseas tourneys and that the kids need atleast 10 tests before they can find their feet, does this current itinerary allow us to do so? Does the current itinerary allow us a rotation policy, given that 17 of the 24 tests are going to be at home, as will 24 of the 38 ODIs? Does this schedule give us the bandwidth to ensure that the emergent kids can take the next step up? Does the schedule allows us the cushion of managing the retirements of the big 3, and in all probability Zak? I believe the answer to all the above questions is yes. The only problem , if it may be called that is, do we have the stomach to absorb a few defeats along the way? And I qualify that argument by stating that despite the best batting lineup in a generation, we have never been more than good fighting, attritional side, never a dominant one. And are we, as a people, ready to go easy on the insta gratification/insta punditry that seems to be our leitmotif when things begin to go even slightly wrong? Are we willing to give ourselves a long enough rope and not go knee jerk every time a kid does not come good? Because if we are, we not only have the tools and the resources, but also time on our hands. Given the ages of the kids under consideration, a little patience now will go a long way in ensuring our competitiveness for an extended period of time. And just to make things that much easier, the number of home games mean that the ride will be smoother than we expect. The future is now in our hands. http://www.boredcricketcrazyindians.com/2011/08/looking-ahead-futures-so-bright-i-gotta.html

[punjabi_khota]

Right arm fast: Praveen Kumar Left arm fast: RP singh

[Clarke]

Off Spin: Harbhajan Singh Leg spin: Amit Mishra :nervous:

[maniac]

Post the England tour, the FTP looks like this 5 ODIs vs England at home 3 Tests 5 ODIs versus West Indies at home. 4 Tests and 8-11 ODIs versus Australia away 3 Tests and 5 ODIs versus Pakistan at home. 3 Tests versus Sri lanka away. 3 Tests versus New Zealand at home. T20 WC at Sri Lanka 4 Tests versus England at home 7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus England at home. 4 Tests versus Australia at home. This is the lead up to the Test playoff/Championship in England. Following this 3 ODIs versus Zimbabwe away 7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus Australia at home. Doing the sums, between September 2011 though November 2013, India play 24 Tests, 38 ODIs and 2 T20s, most of them at home.. This does not include the games played in the ICC Test Championship, the T20 WC, IPL and Champions League games. Working with the numbers above, India play 140 days of cricket over a period of 2 years. Which brings up the question of workload, rotation and rest. Right now, including all of the injured players, India can safely boast of a roster that is 47 deep. Openers: Virender Sehwag Gautam Gambhir Murali Vijay Abhinav Mukund Ajinkya Rahane Middle Order: Rahul Dravid Sachin Tendulkar VVS Laxman Yuvraj Singh Cheteshwar Pujara Rohit Sharma Virat Kohli Ambati Rayadu Suresh Raina Manoj Tiwary Manish Pandey WicketKeepers: MS Dhoni W. Saha P. Patel N. Ojha D. Karthik Slow Left arm spin: Pragyan Ojha Ravinder Jadeja Off Spin: Harbhajan Singh Leg spin: Amit Mishra Right Arm Fast: Ishant Sharma Praveen Kumar Munaf Patel Abhimanyu Mithun Umesh Yadav Varun Aaron Left Arm Fast: Zaheer Khan RP Singh Jaidev Unadkat ODI/T20 specialists: Yusuf Pathan Siddharth Trivedi R. Ashwin Piyush Chawla Rahul Sharma Bhargav Bhatt Iqbal Abdulla Irfan Pathan Sudeep Tyagi Dhawal Kulkarni R. Vinay Kumar Saurabh Tiwary Ashok Menaria Now, the above categorization is not a strict one ie: players classified as ODI/T20 specialists can pretty easily be moved up into any of the other classifications and vice versa. And it also does not consider some players like Badrinath, who can be slotted into the above list if so desired. Now, working on the presumption that we need our best XV for overseas tourneys and that the kids need atleast 10 tests before they can find their feet, does this current itinerary allow us to do so? Does the current itinerary allow us a rotation policy, given that 17 of the 24 tests are going to be at home, as will 24 of the 38 ODIs? Does this schedule give us the bandwidth to ensure that the emergent kids can take the next step up? Does the schedule allows us the cushion of managing the retirements of the big 3, and in all probability Zak? I believe the answer to all the above questions is yes. The only problem , if it may be called that is, do we have the stomach to absorb a few defeats along the way? And I qualify that argument by stating that despite the best batting lineup in a generation, we have never been more than good fighting, attritional side, never a dominant one. And are we, as a people, ready to go easy on the insta gratification/insta punditry that seems to be our leitmotif when things begin to go even slightly wrong? Are we willing to give ourselves a long enough rope and not go knee jerk every time a kid does not come good? Because if we are, we not only have the tools and the resources, but also time on our hands. Given the ages of the kids under consideration, a little patience now will go a long way in ensuring our competitiveness for an extended period of time. And just to make things that much easier, the number of home games mean that the ride will be smoother than we expect. The future is now in our hands. http://www.boredcricketcrazyindians.com/2011/08/looking-ahead-futures-so-bright-i-gotta.html

Wow....Jaddu and RP make the cut but Sreeshanth is not considered

[ganeshran]

Bowling is a serious worry.

[Pagalpanti]

This is just ftp, BCCI will surely add 3-4 breathe-taking, mouth watering and sensational India vs Sri Lanka series in between.

[1983-2011]

This is not my article, i've provided a link below the article btw. we've got a big squad that we can work with even though most of them are not international quality

[kabira]

why will we be playing Lanka away.. It should be home.