Number Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Ok. I am not gonna argue on how Dravid dragged himself much longer than SRT. How about the earlier part of the post. Wasn't it Partiality on Dhoni's part of keep playing likes of Yuvi Raina despite being proven failures ahead of someone who averaged 70 in FC.
Old guy Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 arrey but Rahane did play with Sachin and would have continued to play even if Sachin didnt retire that series.Whereas Rohit was included only because Sachin was retiring and we needed a replacement. so rohit who already got place in team was sachin's replacement but rahane who only got in after sachin was not ? Ok. I am not gonna argue on how Dravid dragged himself much longer than SRT. How about the earlier part of the post. Wasn't it Partiality on Dhoni's part of keep playing likes of Yuvi Raina despite being proven failures ahead of someone who averaged 70 in FC. dhoni is still doing it but what is excuse of keep playing and wasting time ? how does it make any better ? ts not like sachin himself would not have given raina or yuvi chance :winky:
Lord Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 so rohit who already got place in team was sachin's replacement but rahane who only got in after sachin was not ? :wall: Rahane was in the team before Sachin announced his retirement.Rohit got in only after that. I'm pretty sure Rahane would have played WI series had SRT not announced his retirement.Rohit came in as we needed a replacement for Sachin for SA tour and couldn't debut someone straightway in SA
Number Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 dhoni is still doing it but what is excuse of keep playing and wasting time ? how does it make any better ? ts not like sachin himself would not have given raina or yuvi chance :winky: My point was despite being a clear slot for Rahane, he wasn't given a chance. He was even in the squad but other non deserving players played ahead of him. Sachin dragged himself -100% true. Sachin dragged himself more than any other player - debatable but lets not do that here.
Old guy Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 :wall: Rahane was in the team before Sachin announced his retirement.Rohit got in only after that. I'm pretty sure Rahane would have played WI series had SRT not announced his retirement.Rohit came in as we needed a replacement for Sachin for SA tour and couldn't debut someone straightway in SA you know i am sure even pujara was in team before dravid retired and played at 6 once he is still called his replacement and only found consistent spot after his retirement . i know what you are saying but i followed indian team during that whole year and see youngsters struggle to get into team and these oldies occupying team for 1-2 extra years ..even if they did get chance it was not consistent and with tremendous pressure where you get dropped after single failure
Old guy Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 My point was despite being a clear slot for Rahane, he wasn't given a chance. He was even in the squad but other non deserving players played ahead of him. Sachin dragged himself -100% true. Sachin dragged himself more than any other player - debatable but lets not do that here. i am not gonna just blame sachin but very fact is he blocked one spot of youngster in batting line up at number 4 position .now , i am not denying selections of dhoni made it worse much worse but what would have happened if dravid did the same ? i am not comparing sachin and dravid but scenario if dravid played until sachin ...we still would not have settled number 3! now even with pujara there was injustice and guys like raina got chance before him but we still say he took dravid's spot dont we ?
rkt.india Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Mashallah fool baras rahe hai ODIs and tests 2 different formats and he is not opening. He is good in MO.
CSK Fan Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 thats an unplayable yorker to MTC :giggle: I am just glad that the true storing behind Dhoni grooming and supporting Rahane is out. Rahane, BK, etc have come despite Dhini, not because of him. The players he supports to death are Ishant, Jadeja, etc
Old guy Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I am just glad that the true storing behind Dhoni grooming and supporting Rahane is out. Rahane' date=' BK, etc have come despite Dhini, not because of him. The players he supports to death are Ishant, Jadeja, etc[/quote'] Yep...we are pure lucky that these guys came into side and performed even though dhoni tried everything to destroy rahane I still remember him losing form every year because of being benched for so long and even his first class season suffering because of that ...thank god he was selected for South Africa. A tour where he played a great knock in lower order and got selected for main team again .
BeautifulGame Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Because Dhawan was injured . And Dhoni choose him ahead of Raina despite the conspiracy theories . Then Rohit got ahead of Rahane due to the performance in CT and Aus ODI . And when Sachin retired Rahane duly got his choice. If Sachin or Laxman retired early Rahane both would have got their chances Rahane played in Delhi Test first
velu Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I am just glad that the true storing behind Dhoni grooming and supporting Rahane is out. Rahane' date=' BK, etc have come despite Dhini, not because of him. The players he supports to death are Ishant, Jadeja, etc[/quote'] you are a two face when sachin can spend 2 or 3 extra years to groom the younger players and in the process he can take a hit on his average , dhoni can also do the same thing until our team gets stabilised :--D and about grooming .. dhoni even groomed sachin .. sachin aka demi-god was out of sorts for 3 or 4 years and after dhoni took the captaincy , his kewlness and grooming helped sachin to get his touch back :icflove:
Vilander Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 you are a two face when sachin can spend 2 or 3 extra years to groom the younger players and in the process he can take a hit on his average , dhoni can also do the same thing until our team gets stabilised :--D and about grooming .. dhoni even groomed sachin .. sachin aka demi-god was out of sorts for 3 or 4 years and after dhoni took the captaincy , his kewlness and grooming helped sachin to get his touch back :icflove: Thats true Dhoni had a clear hand in Sachin continuing to play while he sucked like a kid sucking a jaw breaker candy, infact Sachin owes his 100th 100 to Dhoni..so much so that Sachin should only have 99 hundreds.
velu Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Thats true Dhoni had a clear hand in Sachin continuing to play while he sucked like a kid sucking a jaw breaker candy' date=' infact Sachin owes his 100th 100 to Dhoni..so much so that Sachin should only have 99 hundreds.[/quote'] and sreeni mama also deserves some credit .. don is an another sachinsta :facepalm: if its austarlian team , they might have shown him the door long long ago
Lord Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 and sreeni mama also deserves some credit .. don is an another sachinsta :facepalm: if its austarlian team , they might have shown him the door long long ago Ponting sucked far longer than Sachin
CSK Fan Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 you are a two face when sachin can spend 2 or 3 extra years to groom the younger players and in the process he can take a hit on his average , dhoni can also do the same thing until our team gets stabilised :--D and about grooming .. dhoni even groomed sachin .. sachin aka demi-god was out of sorts for 3 or 4 years and after dhoni took the captaincy , his kewlness and grooming helped sachin to get his touch back :icflove: But Dhoni is not grooming here, he is sabotaging young players' careers and getting his favorites in. Sachin, dravid were giants of the game who were capable of grooming youngsters. What does Dhoni know to groom young players? Wicketkeeping? ODI and T20s? Players already are good in that. One thing we need grooming in, overseas playing and bowling, Dhoni knows nothing about. How will he groom players already knowing more than him?
CSK Fan Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Thats true Dhoni had a clear hand in Sachin continuing to play while he sucked like a kid sucking a jaw breaker candy' date=' infact Sachin owes his 100th 100 to Dhoni..so much so that Sachin should only have 99 hundreds.[/quote'] One thing I will not blame Dhoni for, no one could touch Sachin, why expect this from Dhoni?
velu Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 But Dhoni is not grooming here, he is sabotaging young players' careers and getting his favorites in. Sachin, dravid were giants of the game who were capable of grooming youngsters. What does Dhoni know to groom young players? Wicketkeeping? ODI and T20s? Players already are good in that. One thing we need grooming in, overseas playing and bowling, Dhoni knows nothing about. How will he groom players already knowing more than him? 1) playing under pressure 2) how to chase in ODIs .. ..
Vilander Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 One thing I will not blame Dhoni for' date=' no one could touch Sachin, why expect this from Dhoni?[/quote'] You just said,you will not blame Dhoni, and accept that Sachin sucked. WOW. :ohmy:
Vilander Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 1) playing under pressure 2) how to chase in ODIs .. .. ...4 how to push outside off in test and look back at keepers catch. :vroam:
Old guy Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 ...4 how to push outside off in test and look back at keepers catch. :vroam: Trolling everyone without any indifference :hatsoff:
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