Are England doing some hazzi bazzi with the ball

[daryl1985]

When i turned on the tv this morning, Bob Willis said that one of the England players had been accused of scratching the ball (but didn't name him).

[hhunaeh]

When i turned on the tv this morning' date=' Bob Willis said that one of the England players had been accused of scratching the ball (but didn't name him).[/quote'] ravi bopara?

[daryl1985]

ravi bopara?

No idea, to be honest, i'm not even sure if i heard the convo right. He then went on to question the umpires decision to change the ball.

[ravishingravi]

Willis: England are tampering with the ball By JOHN ETHERIDGE Published: 14th June 2013 ENGLAND are at the centre of a tampering storm after former captain Bob Willis accused a player of scratching the ball. The row erupted when umpires Aleem Dar and Billy Bowden ordered one of the balls to be changed during England’s seven-wicket Champions Trophy defeat by Sri Lanka at The Oval on Thursday. And Willis said: “Let’s not beat about the bush — Aleem Dar is on England’s case. “He knows that one individual is scratching the ball for England — who I am not going to name — and that’s why the ball was changed. “Have you ever heard about the batting side or the umpire complaining about the shape of the ball? “How naive does Alastair Cook think we are? He didn’t want the ball changed. So why was it changed?” It is OK for the ball to scuff through natural wear and tear — but against cricket’s law to use fingernails or other means to alter its condition. Ex-England coach David Lloyd added to the row when he tweeted: “Ball change is simple... umpires thought Eng changed the condition of the ball... which is against the laws.” England’s team management last night insisted the ball was changed because it went out of shape. The hosts must beat New Zealand tomorrow to seal a last-four spot. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/cricket/4969554/Bob-Willis-England-are-tampering-with-ball-Umpire-knows-it.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[King Tendulkar]

Seems like an england player was tampering i.e scratching Why is nothing being done? Why has dar not reported the matter? Why is ICC not taking action?

[King Tendulkar]

Why is Willis not naming the individual? Who is the player?

[G_B_]

^ maybe cause willis is the biggest blow hard after beefy (botham) in the sky sports studio? Why would you use your fingernails for reverse anyways (i am asking i thought reverse happened due to differing conditions on each side of the ball) Its a known fact and Dirk Nannes made a point of it on test match special that Bopara especially was being provided a lot of sweets by the English management. I doubt Bopara scratched the ball though.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

The Individual is Ravi Bopara

[Malcolm Merlyn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2341959/Doubts-England-tactics-Champions-Trophy-row-ball-swap-festers.html#ixzz2WGIpLaRV

It is important to stress at this stage that there have been no complaints, official or otherwise, about England's techniques in looking after the balls but the umpires will clearly be keeping an eye on them from now on. There is a fine line between what is right and wrong in methods used to attempt to gain swing, with ball-tampering considered one of cricket's big crimes, and the skill of the bowlers remains the most important tool in getting the ball to move through the air. But the fielding side can influence the process. For instance, umpires do not like teams throwing the ball back from the outfield on the bounce, so trying to scuff it up on the cut pitches on the square. But why should that be considered illegal and how can an umpire prove that such a throw was deliberate?

[The Outsider]

Deliberately altering the ball in a non cricketing action is against the rules. The problem is that the rules aren't specific enough to include deliberately bouncing the ball on rough practice pitches because you shouldn't have to spell out every damn thing to grown up men who are supposed to be professionals. That doesn't mean the umpires shouldn't inspect the ball and be aware of it and good on the umpire to spotting it, inspecting the ball and changing it. Screw England and their weak ***** bowling attack without swing. These ass-clowns would start crying on the pitch if they had to regulary bowl in sub continent pitches with stewie broad leading the pack. What a bunch of b*tches.

England came to India and kicked our sorry asses in the subcontinent in case you missed out on that event. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

[zumi]

if ball tampering did happen, then Aleem Dar should report it and the player in question should be punished.

[special K]

No, bowlers are just more talented then any of the other countries. Only Dale Steyn would get into England bowling attack.

[Crookbond]

Giles denies tampering claims http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2013/content/story/642277.html

"We don't tamper with the ball and I hope we can talk about something else," he said. "It is disappointing because we have a huge game, a quarter-final must-win, and there are a lot of headlines about the wrong stuff. "With the situation the other day, the ball was changed because it had gone out of shape. We asked the question, the captain asked that question to the umpires which he has a right to. The ball was changed, the rest is history. "I guess we always take allegations seriously. People have the right to say what they say, we can't stop them. It sounds boring, but we have to focus on what we want to do. The most important thing is winning cricket matches and not what Bob Willis says.''

[rkt.india]

England came to India and kicked our sorry asses in the subcontinent in case you missed out on that event. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

[rkt.india]

England came to India and kicked our sorry asses in the subcontinent in case you missed out on that event. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Thats not just because England were great but that Indian test team was poor. Same England lost 4-1 in ODI to a better ODI than the test team we had at that time.

[special K]

3-2 young man and ODI's are irrelevant.

[MCcricket]

England Ball tampering!!! Bob Willis accuses England of ball-tampering against Sri Lanka AFP | Updated Jun 15, 2013 at 10:51pm IST DishWorld® Live Tamil TV Watch Live Star Vijay, SunTV & More Only $14.95/mo. New Reduced Price. www.DishWorld.com/Live-Tamil-TV Ads by Google Cardiff: England have found themselves at the centre of a tampering row after former captain Bob Willis accused them of scratching the ball. The alleged incident took place during England's seven-wicket Champions Trophy one-day international defeat by Sri Lanka at The Oval on Thursday when Pakistani umpire Aleem Dar and his New Zealand on-field colleague Billy Bowden ordered one of the balls in use to be changed while the Lankans were batting. "Let's not beat about the bush - Aleem Dar is on England's case," Willis told Saturday's edition of the Sun tabloid. Bob Willis accuses England of ball-tampering against Sri Lanka England have found themselves at the centre of a tampering row after former captain Bob Willis accused them of scratching the ball. "He knows that one individual is scratching the ball for England - who I am not going to name - and that's why the ball was changed," insisted Willis, one of England's greatest fast bowlers. "Have you ever heard about the batting side or the umpire complaining about the shape of the ball?" added Willis, one of only four England bowlers to have taken 300 Test wickets. Under current rules for one-day internationals, two white balls are in use for each innings. Balls can be changed for legitimate reasons, such as being knocked out of shape as a result of forceful hits by batsmen, and are often done so at the request of the fielding side. However, on Thursday it appeared that it was Sri Lanka's Kumar Sangakkara who complained about the condition of the ball when his side were 119 for two at the halfway stage of their reply to England's seemingly imposing 293 for seven. England were unhappy as their attack was starting to gain reverse swing, which was key to their opening victory over Australia and is aided by natural wear and tear of the ball, with captain Alastair Cook leading the protests. However, the replacement ball moved little and Sangakkara went on to complete a superb unbeaten hundred to guide Sri Lanka to victory. After the match, Cook said: "The ball was changed because it was out of shape. The umpires make these decisions and you have to accept them. Sometimes you don't think they are the right decisions." But Willis, an England captain in the early 1980s, told the Sun: "How naive does Alastair Cook think we are? He didn't want the ball changed. So why was it changed? "It is OK for the ball to scuff through natural wear and tear - but against cricket's laws to use fingernails or other means to alter its condition." However England coach Ashley Giles vehemently denied the allegations. "We don't tamper with the ball and I hope we can talk about something else," Giles was quoted as saying by the Daily Telegraph. "It is disappointing because we have a huge game, a must-win quarter-final, and there are a lot of headlines about the wrong stuff. With the situation the other day, the ball was changed because it had gone out of shape. We asked the question, the captain asked that question to the umpires which he has a right to. The ball was changed, the rest is history." "People have the right to say what they say, we can't stop them," he added. "It sounds boring, but we have to focus on what we want to do. The most important thing is winning cricket matches and not what Bob Willis says." About a particular player being deemed responsible, Giles said: "We play our cricket as hard as anyone else and the headlines are disappointing. There has even been mention of one of our players having a specific role. That player is an extremely good player and we'd like to let him concentrate on cricket." Giles also said that the fielding method depends on what kind of surface a match is being played. "From the boundary you throw the ball in on the bounce because not everyone can throw it on the full. That's permitted." Australian umpire Darrell Hair, together with West Indies' Billy Doctrove, docked Pakistan five runs for ball-tampering during a controversial Test against England in 2006. Pakistan subsequently forfeited the match in protest - the first time this had happened in Test history. They were subsequently exonerated by an International Cricket Council (ICC) investigation and the ensuing row ultimately cost Hair his career as a senior international umpire. However, the match officials in the England-Sri Lanka match took no similar action and the ICC explained that as the umpires haven't reported anything and no team has complained, they were not planning to take any action. England must beat New Zealand in Cardiff on Sunday to seal a semi-final spot. If they lose they are out and either Australia or Sri Lanka will go through after their match on Monday. If the England-New Zealand match is a washout, they will need a low scoring Australia victory to go through. If both matches are washed out, England will qualify behind New Zealand. Also See England face New Zealand in must-win encounter On-field umpires ordered one of the balls to be changed

[Sachinism]

Supposedly Bopara has been on the watch list for getting his nails out. No confirmation

[jalebi_bhai]

Is it? Really? :dontknow:

tampering with the ball is......

[MCcricket]

These Desi's from Engurland try too hard to fit in and show their team spirit, first was S Patel the whale then Bopara.