adi B Posted June 27, 2013 Posted June 27, 2013 I didnt understand any of that. I am critical of Modi because his 'save Gujjus first' idea is directly violating the rights and necessity of non-Gujju Indians. last i checked, we are just as much Indians as Gujjus are so we deserve to get saved with just as much priority as Gujjus are. He is either lying about his 'save Gujjus' campaign and is helping all equally or he is impeding the rescue of non-Gujju Indians by favouring Gujjus. Pick one, you cant have it both. u are confusing him with toi-let paper article
beetle Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 I am pretty sure he did not throw out non gujjus. He is the CM of Gujrat and he arranged for transportation of people back to Gujrat. With the kind of Phobia he seems to generate...if he had made arrangement to send people back to Delhi or Bihar...Sheila Dixit and Nitish Kumar would have had fits and declared a ban on rescuing delhiites and biharis.
FischerTal Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 u are confusing him with toi-let paper article raddish curry is compelled to damn Modi no matter what he does :two_thumbs_up:
someone Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 u are confusing him with toi-let paper article After falling hook, line and dhokla for the PR fiction that Gujarat chief minister Narendra Damodardas Modi had “rescued” 15,000 Gujaratis in Uttarakhand, The Times of India attempts a feeble course correction on its editorial page today. Abheek Barman, the former Economic Times editor, does some elemental number-crunching of the sort TOI’s reporter Anand Soondas ought to have done, to show that Modi’s Himalayan miracle was a “barefaced, cynical lie”. But without once mentioning that it was TOI which was responsible for the original, barefaced, cynical lie. http://churumuri.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/modi-was-no-rambo-just-scambo-in-uttarakhand Great work TOI. Create your false news first, and then show how it was a lie next. Absolutely top class thinking there.
Raghav_12 Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 ^ which is regulatory body for news media of print and electronic? They need to be given some muscle power to control these. During Uttarakhand Floods, news media was showing images from all over the world portarying them of being from Uttarakhand. Indian media complains of being one of the most controlled in world. I believe they have been given more freedom for the maturity level they have demonstrated in past.
FischerTal Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 ^ which is regulatory body for news media of print and electronic? They need to be given some muscle power to control these. During Uttarakhand Floods, news media was showing images from all over the world portarying them of being from Uttarakhand. Indian media complains of being one of the most controlled in world. I believe they have been given more freedom for the maturity level they have demonstrated in past. Press Control of India, headed by our very own beloved Justice Katju :cantstop:
asterix Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 So people are criticising Modi over a false news report? :facepalm:
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 So people are criticising Modi over a false news report? :facepalm: No one put up the false news report to criticize him - his fan club had put it up to praise him. :hysterical:
bulbul Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 No one put up the false news report to criticize him - his fan club had put it up to praise him. :hysterical: From when TOI became fan club of Modi? What about the haters club which jumped on Modi bashing bandwagon which is very silent about Rah baba.
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 From when TOI became fan club of Modi? What about the haters club which jumped on Modi bashing bandwagon which is very silent about Rah baba. Who posted the news on ICF? Me or some other hater?
Muloghonto Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 I am pretty sure he did not throw out non gujjus. He is the CM of Gujrat and he arranged for transportation of people back to Gujrat. With the kind of Phobia he seems to generate...if he had made arrangement to send people back to Delhi or Bihar...Sheila Dixit and Nitish Kumar would have had fits and declared a ban on rescuing delhiites and biharis. Its a simple argument really, try to follow: in a crisis situation (terrorism, natural calamities,etc) there are *ONLY* two options available to help the people: a) Follow the laws of triage. This option means it doesnt matter who you are or where you are from, those in greater medical need will get prefferential treatment over those who has lesser medical needs at the current situation. b) Follow any non-triage premise: rescue white people, rescue black people, rescue Gujjus, rescue hindus, rescue Point a) and point b) are mutually exclusive. If you are following the laws of triage, any non-triage premise goes out of the window. If you are following option b) , then laws of triage goes out of the window. Ie, you CANNOT say you are there to help Gujjus on a priority basis yet this basis does not clash with the laws of triage. That means either all the victims are Gujjus or that you are helping Gujjus first, which means the non-Gujju with more pressing needs than a Gujju gets overlooked. Otherwise, you are NOT there to help Gujjus first. Therefore, options a) and b) are mutually exclusive. Therefore, logic dictates that modi is: a) Lying about helping Gujjus first, he is lending a helping hand and laws of triage are prevailing or b) Modi is not lying about helping Gujjus on a priority basis and therefore, overturning the laws of triage and victimizing the bigger needs of potential non-gujju victims over those of the gujjus. Pick one option. You cannot say he is there to help Gujjus first but no non-gujju is disadvantaged by prioritizing Gujjus first. It makes no sense.
bulbul Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Who posted the news on ICF? Me or some other hater? A Modi supporter posted a news from TOI , and a hater started accusing Modi falsely even without thinking for a second. Both of them didn't verified news.
someone Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 Pick one option. You cannot say he is there to help Gujjus first but no non-gujju is disadvantaged by prioritizing Gujjus first. It makes no sense. Yes, you do not make sense. Firstly, why put "Modi" into every thread? And then there is enough of documentation/evidence to suggest that it did not happen like you want to present or the other way around, there is absolutely no evidence that it happened like you stated. Indians were helped/saved/rescued, choose whichever word you like by initiation led by Modi. It deserves praises, if you think otherwise, you can continue to live in your fantasy world which I don't care about at all.
Muloghonto Posted June 30, 2013 Posted June 30, 2013 Yes' date=' you do not make sense.[/quote'] Empty and vacant pronounciations without any supporting reasoning is simply speaking, sycophancy. I would urge you not to engage in it. I didnt put modi in any thread. The two options i presented are the only two logical options available. You either support the laws of triage or you are impeding the laws of triage. Any other criteria than 'the neediest must be attended to first' is a direct favouritism of one type of Indian over another. Also, documentation my left titty- show us what you call the so-called documentation that Modi was not in the way of any better deserving candidate than every single Gujju in Uttarakhand. There is nothing to praise an idiot who chooses to divide Indians on the basis of state and not on the basis of need. Indians were rescued- with undeserving Gujjus getting to go before more deserving non-Gujju Indians. That is the reality of Modi's pet project. And when one type of Indians are given an unfair advantage over all other, obviously it is something to be lamented. There is nothing fantasical about my world- i spelt out the two possible logical outcome of Modi's propaganda exercise, which the Modi fans simply cannot palate and instead must indulge in empty pronouncements without any reasoning presented.
Crookbond Posted June 30, 2013 Posted June 30, 2013 I am pretty sure he did not throw out non gujjus. He is the CM of Gujrat and he arranged for transportation of people back to Gujrat. With the kind of Phobia he seems to generate...if he had made arrangement to send people back to Delhi or Bihar...Sheila Dixit and Nitish Kumar would have had fits and declared a ban on rescuing delhiites and biharis. Source ?
ravishingravi Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Source ? So, is there a source to confirm that he threw out non gujjus ?
bulbul Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 So' date=' is there a source to confirm that he threw out non gujjus ?[/quote'] Does that really matters?
Crookbond Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 So' date=' is there a source to confirm that he threw out non gujjus ?[/quote'] IDK - I didn't make that claim. You say something, you prove it else shut shop. I also like how you conveniently ignored 1 highlighted sentence of the bolded part.
someone Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 xWUuXMKerrI Such a great human being is Rahul and Uttarakhand is blessed with his highness.
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